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#1 Feb 02 2011 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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he fixed the sp system!!!

Love everything about this update today, including invisible helmets, font colors, everything.

Great update!
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#2 Feb 02 2011 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Hows solo sp cause a couple of my guildies are already complaining about it.
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#3 Feb 02 2011 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
Hows solo sp cause a couple of my guildies are already complaining about it.


It's better than what it was for me at least. Getting 300-1k.
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#4 Feb 02 2011 at 6:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
Hows solo sp cause a couple of my guildies are already complaining about it.

They are high.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2011 7:20pm by TheonVenethiel
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
Hows solo sp cause a couple of my guildies are already complaining about it.


I really can't fathom how ANYONE could complain about solo SP now. Anything that cons green or above saw a MASSIVE increase in SP rewards, and the penalty for blue mobs is unbelievably small. This is one of the most game-changing updates I've ever seen... in a VERY good way.
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#6 Feb 02 2011 at 7:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
Hows solo sp cause a couple of my guildies are already complaining about it.


I really can't fathom how ANYONE could complain about solo SP now. Anything that cons green or above saw a MASSIVE increase in SP rewards, and the penalty for blue mobs is unbelievably small. This is one of the most game-changing updates I've ever seen... in a VERY good way.


I mostly agree. The SP change seems a little on the excessive side though...
#7 Feb 02 2011 at 7:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your guildies must hate progression and love being stuck in **** levels.

Cuz soloing is giving 250ish a kill on yellows, but killing a Black Eft at 38 gave 420.

Grouping, on a 22 conj I got 650 SP on a skeleton in nanawa mines.
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#8 Feb 02 2011 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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Lots more SP!
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#9 Feb 02 2011 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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Praise!
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#10 Feb 02 2011 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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TheonVenethiel wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
Hows solo sp cause a couple of my guildies are already complaining about it.

They are high.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2011 7:20pm by TheonVenethiel


More like they are used to bully weak mobs. I tested by killing Yellow Cockatrice at r47 and I got 220 SP, solo. That is like a dream compared to before.
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#11 Feb 02 2011 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
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#12Kaillou, Posted: Feb 02 2011 at 10:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pathetic patch ... even more pathetic if you think its good ...
#13 Feb 02 2011 at 11:03 PM Rating: Default
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Its a start, lmfao
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#14 Feb 02 2011 at 11:07 PM Rating: Default
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All Praise ... ... lol

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 12:10am by Kaillou
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#15 Feb 02 2011 at 11:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kaillou wrote:
Wow .. Good job Original poster .. you are deleting my post .. LOL

you want everybody to agree with you ? LOL

You must love so much you're tear of joy !!!!

Pathetic patch ... even more pathetic if you think its good ...


Green number . WOW
stack to 99 .. WOW
they rewrote a SP table .. and its still broke ... WOW
change some gathering animation .. WOW
the price are on the search engine of the market ward? LOL ... WOW

Seriously ...

What the **** are you THAT happy about?

Any Quest? any more FUN? any low lvl NM? Any compagnies? any new goal?

What the **** are you that happy about ..

I want this game to be great .. but dont be some stupid Fanboy ...

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 12:08am by Kaillou


Do you have an 'off' switch? You seem to be stuck on repeat, as about half of your 11 posts are the same **** thing. Pick a thread and make your argument there, don't keep shouting the same nonsense in multiple threads hoping someone will clap you on the back for being so determined.
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#16Kaillou, Posted: Feb 02 2011 at 11:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Did i make you sad? will you cry ? ... plz dont .. go look at the green number ...
#17 Feb 02 2011 at 11:15 PM Rating: Good
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Kaillou wrote:


Did i make you sad? will you cry ? ... plz dont .. go look at the green number ...



lol.
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#18 Feb 02 2011 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Kaillou wrote:

Did i make you sad? will you cry ? ... plz dont .. go look at the green number ...


What is this "green number" dost thou troll speaketh of?
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#19 Feb 02 2011 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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today's patch is the first of many. It would be foolish to expect massive game-changing updates. Instead, be happy that it made some solid changes in the skeleton of the game.

There will be more content before the end of the month.
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#20 Feb 02 2011 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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Praaaiiiissss-aaaahhhhh, tha Yosshhhhiiiiii-Ahhhh

On a serious note, I can't wait for work to finish so I can go home and enjoy the new changes!
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#21 Feb 02 2011 at 11:46 PM Rating: Good
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I really can't fathom how ANYONE could complain about solo SP now. Anything that cons green or above saw a MASSIVE increase in SP rewards, and the penalty for blue mobs is unbelievably small. This is one of the most game-changing updates I've ever seen... in a VERY good way.


i have to agree, so far i think the new SP system is fantastic, i see some SP tweaks coming very soon however, but so far im loving it ^^.
my server is still pretty dead though, thats still pretty sad ; ;
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#22 Feb 02 2011 at 11:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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pixelpop wrote:
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I really can't fathom how ANYONE could complain about solo SP now. Anything that cons green or above saw a MASSIVE increase in SP rewards, and the penalty for blue mobs is unbelievably small. This is one of the most game-changing updates I've ever seen... in a VERY good way.


i have to agree, so far i think the new SP system is fantastic, i see some SP tweaks coming very soon however, but so far im loving it ^^.
my server is still pretty dead though, thats still pretty sad ; ;


With a bit of luck people will return with all the "praise" the game is getting at the moment.
I've seen quite a few "After not playing for X amount of time, I'll have to log back in and check out these new changes".
Let's hope this is the case. Seeing all you guys stating how good the changes are while I'm stuck at work is getting me all excited
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#23 Feb 02 2011 at 11:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was extremely happy to see my localleves giving me 800-900 skill points on every synth... Wow... just wow!
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#24 Feb 03 2011 at 12:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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love the progress i'm seeing with this patch, even if it is small, had an awesome time playing with my linkshell this evening!
#25 Feb 03 2011 at 12:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kaillou wrote:
olaurelindorenan wrote:
Kaillou wrote:
Wow .. Good job Original poster .. you are deleting my post .. LOL

you want everybody to agree with you ? LOL

You must love so much you're tear of joy !!!!

Pathetic patch ... even more pathetic if you think its good ...


Green number . WOW
stack to 99 .. WOW
they rewrote a SP table .. and its still broke ... WOW
change some gathering animation .. WOW
the price are on the search engine of the market ward? LOL ... WOW

Seriously ...

What the **** are you THAT happy about?

Any Quest? any more FUN? any low lvl NM? Any compagnies? any new goal?

What the **** are you that happy about ..

I want this game to be great .. but dont be some stupid Fanboy ...

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 12:08am by Kaillou


Do you have an 'off' switch? You seem to be stuck on repeat, as about half of your 11 posts are the same **** thing. Pick a thread and make your argument there, don't keep shouting the same nonsense in multiple threads hoping someone will clap you on the back for being so determined.



Did i make you sad? will you cry ? ... plz dont .. go look at the green number ...


You do know we are getting a 1.15b patch this month, most likely with the content that was said to be added "after early February"? This patch was obviously adjustments and fixes...also SP isnt broken in the least bit. Especially since XIV is a pretty different game from XI.

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Kaillou wrote:

Did i make you sad? will you cry ? ... plz dont .. go look at the green number ...


What is this "green number" dost thou troll speaketh of?


I guess he's going on about the new colors and number/word highlights that differentiate damage/healing/etc.

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 12:56am by Teknoman
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#26 Feb 03 2011 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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You just can't win on this forum sometimes lol. You post a non-trolling post being happy about the game giving an amazing update, and a slight encouragement to the new dev team to keep up the good work and get rated down to default by a troll (flaming?) who hates the update.

Go zam >.>
I've come across hundreds of players on our server and not one vocally expressed not liking the update. While not scientific, that leads me to believe at least 90% of the players like this update (Most likely more, Kaillou is probably the only one in the entire game who didn't, as a result I'd like to invite you to play DCUO or Vanguard instead. I won't help you get to it, but I'm inviting you to leave these forums and this game).
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#27 Feb 03 2011 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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olaurelindorenan wrote:
Kaillou wrote:
Wow .. Good job Original poster .. you are deleting my post .. LOL

you want everybody to agree with you ? LOL

You must love so much you're tear of joy !!!!

Pathetic patch ... even more pathetic if you think its good ...


Green number . WOW
stack to 99 .. WOW
they rewrote a SP table .. and its still broke ... WOW
change some gathering animation .. WOW
the price are on the search engine of the market ward? LOL ... WOW

Seriously ...

What the **** are you THAT happy about?

Any Quest? any more FUN? any low lvl NM? Any compagnies? any new goal?

What the **** are you that happy about ..

I want this game to be great .. but dont be some stupid Fanboy ...

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 12:08am by Kaillou


Do you have an 'off' switch? You seem to be stuck on repeat, as about half of your 11 posts are the same **** thing. Pick a thread and make your argument there, don't keep shouting the same nonsense in multiple threads hoping someone will clap you on the back for being so determined.

He does. Mouse over his name and from the menu that pops up, click ignore.
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#28 Feb 03 2011 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't played in a few weeks. After reading about the 1.15 patch I was excited BUT still remained cautiously optimistic.

It looks like Yoshi-P hit a home run here; can't wait to log in and check out the changes.
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#29 Feb 03 2011 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Zalim the Charming wrote:
I was extremely happy to see my localleves giving me 800-900 skill points on every synth... Wow... just wow!


I hate you. I just really hate you. I can't get a local leve above my rank to save my life. Not even for my 3 subcrafts. I don't know if anyone else has had my bad luck.
#30 Feb 04 2011 at 1:10 AM Rating: Excellent
I really liked this update too!

I want to see a better auto-sort feature to go along with item stacking... we shouldn't have to move items in and out of our bazaars or retainers in order to stack items to 99.

I love the SP increases so far... my duoing buddy and I made a lot of progress in a couple hours tonight!

The Market Ward improvements are unbelievable. We actually have a highly functioning economic infrastructure now!

My unsung hero of the update is the field of view on the minimap... amazing how even a small detail can make something a lot more useful.

Awesome update, even though it was small... can't wait to see what we get next!
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#31 Feb 04 2011 at 3:33 AM Rating: Good
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I agree, I liked this update a little more than anticipated.

To what Thayos has said, I think they need to go the XI kind of inventory sort.. What we have is inferior.

Edited, Feb 4th 2011 4:37am by Coyohma
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#32 Feb 06 2011 at 2:00 AM Rating: Decent
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It's a noob question I know.. but..
Before last update you see your skill points turn into yellow after long time spending killing mobs.
Now I see my skill points turn yellow after 3 levequest.. Still a decrease of s.p. awarded or.. what???
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It's a noob question I know.. but..
Before last update you see your skill points turn into yellow after long time spending killing mobs.
Now I see my skill points turn yellow after 3 levequest.. Still a decrease of s.p. awarded or.. what???


It's because you're gaining SP twice the speed before, so 3 levequests are like 6+ levequests (if you link vs not linked before it's several times more). Doesn't matter anymore, even counting the 10% decrease you're still gaining 180% the rate of pre-patch.
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Do you guys really care about getting massive SP and grinding all the way to rank 50? I mean if you really like FFXIV you shouldn't be focusing on how fast you can level up. Look at how does this would effect newbie for example, they wouldn't even know how to work well on their classes since they're moving too fast on their ranks doing leves and camping behest for 5-6 hrs and nothing else. I thought those people who are currently enjoying FFXIV would just go steady on grinding and learning through their progress? I'd rather wait for an actual content updates to arrive than having this trend of WoW's easy mode into FFXIV. To me, the last update was a disappointment and I'm really anxious about FFXIV's future.
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#36 Feb 06 2011 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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I join in praising Yoshi-P!

When I read the first reviews on the SP changes there seemed division over whether it was good or bad, looking at the forum before being able to log in I expressed my concern as it looked a little broken.

Having played now for a few days I want to say that its great! Not in that its faster but that its better. Before it was most effective to kill easy blue stuff over and over with no challenge. Now it hinges much more on the mob level /recipe level to yourself and so makes the game much more challenging and interesting.

We are now challenged to team up with people and fight more difficult fights or synth harder stuff.

The speed is also fine. Remember we're only going to 50 at the moment and as this will inevitably be increased hopefully with quests like maat.
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#37 Feb 06 2011 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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I think all the pieces are now in place for some stuff to do.

I'll definitely will start playing more when the quests arrive.

XIV is a good game to play along with XI when I spend hours looking for a pt in XI I know that I can always solo in XIV which is nice.

Having said that I hope these fixes make the pt play more popular in XIV too.

It's kinda funny how XI is going more and more towards solo friendly changes while XIV is trying to make the parties work. Makes you wonder that; don't these teams communicate among themselves at all?
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People asking / begging for a slow grind should consider that you have more than 15 jobs to level up on one character.

Given that fact, your character is not maxed out for combat until you have all DoM/DoW jobs at 50 and has all abilities at their disposal.

So making it "only take a month" to hit 50 just means that you have over 1 year of solid grinding to hit "max level" just in combat. Remember that you hit max level in WoW in a week. Same with EQ2.

The fatigue system will stop the hardcore grinders now, because at 500 SP a kill fatigue will take off about 50 per rank, instead of taking off 10 at 100 a kill.

It made it feel like you could accomplish something in a short session, or accomplish a lot in a long session. Whereas before, a short session got you what, 1/20th of a level?
Not just in leveling but OMG MARKET WARDS FIXED !!!!!
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#39 Feb 06 2011 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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Do you guys really care about getting massive SP and grinding all the way to rank 50? I mean if you really like FFXIV you shouldn't be focusing on how fast you can level up. Look at how does this would effect newbie for example, they wouldn't even know how to work well on their classes since they're moving too fast on their ranks doing leves and camping behest for 5-6 hrs and nothing else. I thought those people who are currently enjoying FFXIV would just go steady on grinding and learning through their progress? I'd rather wait for an actual content updates to arrive than having this trend of WoW's easy mode into FFXIV. To me, the last update was a disappointment and I'm really anxious about FFXIV's future.



I don't see any "easy mode" with this at all. Yes, doing behest every hour is quick SP, but with the 15 members they're getting everytime now, you're not actually getting the full SP you could get.
A party of 6-8 will net more SP than a party of 15.
Also, people are doing leves on higher star ratings now for more SP.
I myself have been duoing leves on harder options than previously and it's certainly not an "easy mode" for leveling.
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It's kinda funny how XI is going more and more towards solo friendly changes while XIV is trying to make the parties work. Makes you wonder that; don't these teams communicate among themselves at all?


I think this comes down to a difference in culture, in the west we have a 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' mentality, Japanese dont subscribe to this, even if something works they will try to do better. This results in what we've seen in this game seemingly being broken but the continual improvement mentality will mean this game ends up being better than what we would have had if they'd simply did the 'copy&paste' job from XI that people wanted. We wanted AH from XI, in what we have I see the potential for better. we want airships, I see the potential for better (company owned ships? (yes please). In every area they want to do better, many of us see the potential, SE just needs to deliver as they have done so many times. Yoshi-P can do it! :D
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#41 Feb 07 2011 at 11:53 AM Rating: Default
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Aucis wrote:
Do you guys really care about getting massive SP and grinding all the way to rank 50? I mean if you really like FFXIV you shouldn't be focusing on how fast you can level up. Look at how does this would effect newbie for example, they wouldn't even know how to work well on their classes since they're moving too fast on their ranks doing leves and camping behest for 5-6 hrs and nothing else. I thought those people who are currently enjoying FFXIV would just go steady on grinding and learning through their progress? I'd rather wait for an actual content updates to arrive than having this trend of WoW's easy mode into FFXIV. To me, the last update was a disappointment and I'm really anxious about FFXIV's future.


I Agree.
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