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#1 Feb 06 2011 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
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Today i did a behest as a con r21. After 15 min we had killed all mobs and i had got 12k+ sp. I think thats way to much. I remember the old days in ff XI when i was proud and felt good everytime i gain a level. That was hard work and when i finally hit lev 75 i was very proud. But now? All player can hit r50 in a couple of weeks. Not so happy about it. Sry.
#2 Feb 06 2011 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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If it's any comfort, leveling slows down considerably later on.
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#3 Feb 06 2011 at 9:02 PM Rating: Good
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mickeandbuster wrote:
Today i did a behest as a con r21. After 15 min we had killed all mobs and i had got 12k+ sp. I think thats way to much. I remember the old days in ff XI when i was proud and felt good everytime i gain a level. That was hard work and when i finally hit lev 75 i was very proud. But now? All player can hit r50 in a couple of weeks. Not so happy about it. Sry.



No, you can't. First off, fatigue will hit, and although you can push through it for quite a while, eventually when you hit orange/red fatigue (which is VERY easy now) it is almost pointless to level on that job. Second, at r40+, TNR's are 70k+, up to 100k to reach r50. On average, it takes me about 4 hours or a little longer to gain a rank (i'm r44 now), which is about the same rate as it was on ffxi at level 40ish. Also, the point of ffxiv is to level multiple classes to cap. Doing so will still take a decent amount of time, only now instead of it being an insanely intensive and horrific grind to get a SINGLE class to 50, the ride up is somewhat faster and considerable more enjoyable. It's nice to actually see progress from a days worth of leveling, instead of gaining half a rank like before the update.

It's really amusing how the VAST majority of players who think this update gives too much SP are all rank 20-30 and don't really have experience with even GETTING a class to 50 yet.
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#4 Feb 06 2011 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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It slows down noticably once you hit 24. While I don't necessarily like getting to the 'cap' quicker, I feel it's necesssary as you will want to pull abilities/spells from all classes and almost all ranks. If we had a sub job system like in XI, maybe I'd view it in a negative light.. But the way things are, I think it's a positive.
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#5 Feb 06 2011 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Average SP is 20k an hour, the final push (which is where I'm at) is 5 hours for the last level. Linking + GA 5 stars Dunesfolk is faster for sure, but you don't get that many attempt at it per 36 hours.

On Crafting, 20k an hour is also the average for grinding (no longer spamming standard though, as recipe your rank or lower give the same SP as it gave before, which translate to roughly 10k/hr). By r40 you will rarely see a leve giving you worth while SP. In the past 3 cycles since the patch I have had a leve my rank once for Goldsmith, none for Carpenter.
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#6 Feb 06 2011 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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If it's any comfort, leveling slows down considerably later on.


yeah the amount of SP needed to level from like 35 onward is pretty steep.

Edited, Feb 6th 2011 10:39pm by pixelpop
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#7 Feb 06 2011 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Yea, you may have lucked out on a party, but most of the time no matter what [autotranslate] buttons I hit I have people attacking every mob in sight losing sp for the entire group. Feel lucky you maximized your experience.
#8 Feb 06 2011 at 10:13 PM Rating: Default
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BartelX wrote:
On average, it takes me about 4 hours or a little longer to gain a rank (i'm r44 now), which is about the same rate as it was on ffxi at level 40ish.
If it EVER took you longer than 4 hours to level in FFXI, something was wrong.
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#9 Feb 06 2011 at 10:14 PM Rating: Decent
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mickeandbuster wrote:
Today i did a behest as a con r21. After 15 min we had killed all mobs and i had got 12k+ sp. I think thats way to much. I remember the old days in ff XI when i was proud and felt good everytime i gain a level. That was hard work and when i finally hit lev 75 i was very proud. But now? All player can hit r50 in a couple of weeks. Not so happy about it. Sry.



You should make a thread complaining about the fact that we dont lose exp when we die or how there should be limit break quests at rank 35 40 and 45 that require a party to waste a ton of time doing something that only benifits 1 person in the party.
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#10 Feb 06 2011 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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I don't want to throw more hate onto the pile. but if you needed to spend X hours in order to feel an accomplishment, you've missed the point.
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#11 Feb 06 2011 at 10:18 PM Rating: Excellent
If you only do behest its actually 12k per hour.....
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#12 Feb 07 2011 at 12:28 AM Rating: Good
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EdyNOTB, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
If you only do behest its actually 12k per hour.....



That's exactly what I was thinking haha.
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#13 Feb 07 2011 at 12:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Onionthiefx wrote:
If it's any comfort, leveling slows down considerably later on.


Not only this, but also the fact that cap is going up! Getting from 1-50 in FFXI DID NOT TAKE THAT LONG. I've seen nolifer friends hit 75 in a little over a month without smn burn. The cap will be raised to 75 again most likely by the next* expansion so stop worrying about this.

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Edited, Feb 7th 2011 1:40am by Transmigration
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#14 Feb 07 2011 at 12:41 AM Rating: Default
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Not only this, but also the fact that cap is going up! Getting from 1-50 in FFXI DID NOT TAKE THAT LONG. I've seen nolifer friends hit 75 in a little over a month without smn burn. The cap will be raised to 75 again most likely by the next* expansion so stop worrying about this.


But it's a problem when there's nothing to do from 1-50 and people are hitting the cap faster than SE can fill up that hole with content..
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#15 Feb 07 2011 at 12:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hyanmen wrote:
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Not only this, but also the fact that cap is going up! Getting from 1-50 in FFXI DID NOT TAKE THAT LONG. I've seen nolifer friends hit 75 in a little over a month without smn burn. The cap will be raised to 75 again most likely by the next* expansion so stop worrying about this.


But it's a problem when there's nothing to do from 1-50 and people are hitting the cap faster than SE can fill up that hole with content..


Problem for who? SE or the people getting to 50? What the **** does that have to do with anything. Content is around the corner.
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#16 Feb 07 2011 at 12:52 AM Rating: Good
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Oh great another big debate on the speed of levelling.

1. This isnt XI

2. Congrats it took you a year to hit 75 in XI, means you have an awful lot of time to suck really hard at an easy game.

3. Grinding and slow levelling is POINTLESS. Its there to make you play longer, There is no point to it, usually in games its so you're not at endgame in first day or to keep you playing so you're paying subscription, which sadly this lacks both, No Subscription, No Endgame.

I understand it in games which you have to create a new character every time as most levelling is done through quests and such and means first day being X class you aint pimpped out with endgame gear.

But in a game where its primary focus is "Level as many classes as possible and share the skills :D" slowing down that tedious-utter most boring aspect is like watching paint dry, JUST to ensure its good when its finished.

People below rank 35 shouldn't even be allowed to comment on SP, they getting it all handed to them, think its amazing, then they try level 40+ and without leves exploiting its such a chore.
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#17 Feb 07 2011 at 1:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I welcome the change. It was too daunting to even consider the end-game build that I wanted ... let alone any sort of crafting ability/gathering ability.

Was sick of half a rank from a day's grind on the weekends .... only need 4 of those to gain a new skill ... lol.

This new system will hurt single job players a lot (via fatigue). If you spread it out, I think this will benefit the community a lot.

And honestly, I think people were overwhelmed by the grind ... maybe less people will drop because they were'nt getting anywhere.
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#18 Feb 07 2011 at 1:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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yeah... I like the new SP changes, thanks
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