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#1 Feb 07 2011 at 4:36 PM Rating: Excellent
Before I start, Sorry if this has been posted before,

Computer Spec:

Operating System: Windows 7
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: G31M-ES2L
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5770
Driver Version: 8.812.0.0

Over the course of the last couple days I've been testing different settings/combinations of the game.

Yet the problem i'm having is the high temperature of my GPU, I'm talking in the regions of 80-90c

Things I've tried;

I've bought a new case, with plenty of fans (3 fans) - Same temperature.
I've tried lowering the graphics settings - Same temperature.
I've tried making my room as cold as possible to see if its my room causing the problem (Small room gets warm quicker), But still - Same temperature.

Im just about ready to give up, I've come here for a last ditch effort for help on this.

I hope you guys can help, Thanks in advance!


Edited, Feb 7th 2011 5:54pm by Pinkfyre

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 5:54pm by Pinkfyre
#2 Feb 07 2011 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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What 5700 series card is it exactly? And have you tried using a program such as MSI afterburner to adjust your GPU's fan speed?

Edit: Also, new case/more fans may not do much depending on fan location/direction and wire management.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 5:41pm by mnikad12
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#3 Feb 07 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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What 5700 series card is it exactly? And have you tried using a program such as MSI afterburner to adjust your GPU's fan speed?


I have the 5770, Which comes with its own settings, Like fan, performance etc. I've tried this. :/
#4 Feb 07 2011 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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Pinkfyre wrote:
mnikad12 wrote:
What 5700 series card is it exactly? And have you tried using a program such as MSI afterburner to adjust your GPU's fan speed?


I have the 5770, Which comes with its own settings, Like fan, performance etc. I've tried this. :/


You should be able to adjust the fan speed. Not sure what you've tried so far, but this thread may be helpful:
http://www.computerforum.com/169429-5770-fan-control.html

Also, what exact 5770 model is it?
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Im not sure how I would find that out but is it somewhere here?

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#6 Feb 07 2011 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pinkfyre wrote:


Yet the problem i'm having is the high temperature of my GPU, I'm talking in the regions of 80-90c




While I don't know which 5700 video card you have. 80-90c GPU temperature is pretty normal for modern days Video Card.
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#7 Feb 07 2011 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Pinkfyre wrote:


Yet the problem i'm having is the high temperature of my GPU, I'm talking in the regions of 80-90c




While I don't know which 5700 video card you have. 80-90c GPU temperature is pretty normal for modern days Video Card.


Really? So at what temperature should I start worrying?
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Well, you could kick up the CPU to 3.2 ghz. That would take a little stress off the GPU, but as was pointed out, GPU tend to run hot nowadays when playing games. If you do manage to hit 90 C it means its overheating. The card should be running around the 80-85 C range.
That may require upgrading the CPU to do safely, though...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101023012844AAsbCZ1 may have some more answers for ya

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 5:01pm by Uryuu
#9 Feb 07 2011 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
try replacing the thermal interface material on the card, could be a defective glob on yours. It's a slight possibility.

On my GTX 470s I switched to Arctic Silver 5 and temps dropped 10C on the bottom card and 8C on the top, I got a good deal on some MX2 and figured I'd give it another go and temps dropped a further 2C on the bottom on 3C on the top. This allowed me to bump my settings up a bit more before the fans were requiring me to turn up my speakers. It's a shot in the dark but it's cheaper than what you've done already.

how do you have your fans setup? What case is it? If it's a smaller mid-tower it could be cramped and wiring could be obstucting airflow. If it's a larger case I'd be suspicious of the fans being setup in an odd way.

Generally people do front intake, side intake, top and or rear exhaust BUT you can have too many fans or too many of the wrong fans. Check out aircooling pc or overclock pc on google and search forums for different tested fan layouts possibly even on your case.

*EDIT* I was under the impression that ATI/AMD cards generally run cooler than Nvidia, if so I would assume that a 5XXX should be running in the mid 70s max while normal gaming. This is an assumption only.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 10:59pm by PerrinofSylph
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#10 Feb 07 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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I would say you need to look at the placement of your fans, remember you need to be sure they take cool air in, then blow it at the graphics card and cpu, and maybe one to take the hot air out of your case, if the air in the case is already hot, it will make it alot harder to cool the components.

Sorry if this is a bit simple and you already know it but its the only reason that your graphics card should be heating up so much. Or updating graphics drivers could work as well.

You could also use google to find the safe operating temperatures of your graphics card, differant graphics cards are designed to operate at differant temperatures

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 6:02pm by scrish
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#11 Feb 07 2011 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
try replacing the thermal interface material on the card, could be a defective glob on yours. It's a slight possibility.

On my GTX 470s I switched to Arctic Silver 5 and temps dropped 10C on the bottom card and 8C on the top, I got a good deal on some MX2 and figured I'd give it another go and temps dropped a further 2C on the bottom on 3C on the top. This allowed me to bump my settings up a bit more before the fans were requiring me to turn up my speakers. It's a shot in the dark but it's cheaper than what you've done already.

how do you have your fans setup? What case is it? If it's a smaller mid-tower it could be cramped and wiring could be obstucting airflow. If it's a larger case I'd be suspicious of the fans being setup in an odd way.

Generally people do front intake, side intake, top and or rear exhaust BUT you can have too many fans or too many of the wrong fans. Check out aircooling pc or overclock pc on google and search forums for different tested fan layouts possibly even on your case.

*EDIT* I was under the impression that ATI/AMD cards generally run cooler than Nvidia, if so I would assume that a 5XXX should be running in the mid 70s max while normal gaming. This is an assumption only.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 10:59pm by PerrinofSylph


I have this case http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Micro+ATX/Arianet+Mini+727-03B+Micro-ATX+Tower+Case+%28500W+PSU%29+-+Black?productId=37211
It has a space for a 80 mm fan at the front and a 80mm fan at the back (which I have) I also have a fan on the CPU, There is no wiring obstructing the fans, I've cable tied them and taped them out of the way.

I have no IDEA what is causing the problem. :/

According the AMD/ATI website, One moderator says "Max safe temp is 104c" if that helps in anyway..

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 6:23pm by Pinkfyre

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 6:26pm by Pinkfyre
#12 Feb 07 2011 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds a little on the high side, but otherwise not a big deal. Download MSI Afterburner (you do not need a MSI card to use it) and you can control the fan speeds manually if need be.



Edited, Feb 7th 2011 5:23pm by bsphil
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#13 Feb 07 2011 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Pinkfyre wrote:
PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
try replacing the thermal interface material on the card, could be a defective glob on yours. It's a slight possibility.

On my GTX 470s I switched to Arctic Silver 5 and temps dropped 10C on the bottom card and 8C on the top, I got a good deal on some MX2 and figured I'd give it another go and temps dropped a further 2C on the bottom on 3C on the top. This allowed me to bump my settings up a bit more before the fans were requiring me to turn up my speakers. It's a shot in the dark but it's cheaper than what you've done already.

how do you have your fans setup? What case is it? If it's a smaller mid-tower it could be cramped and wiring could be obstucting airflow. If it's a larger case I'd be suspicious of the fans being setup in an odd way.

Generally people do front intake, side intake, top and or rear exhaust BUT you can have too many fans or too many of the wrong fans. Check out aircooling pc or overclock pc on google and search forums for different tested fan layouts possibly even on your case.

*EDIT* I was under the impression that ATI/AMD cards generally run cooler than Nvidia, if so I would assume that a 5XXX should be running in the mid 70s max while normal gaming. This is an assumption only.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 10:59pm by PerrinofSylph


I have this case http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Micro+ATX/Arianet+Mini+727-03B+Micro-ATX+Tower+Case+%28500W+PSU%29+-+Black?productId=37211
It has a space for a 80 mm fan at the front and a 80mm fan at the back (which I have) I also have a fan on the CPU, There is no wiring obstructing the fans, I've cable tied them and taped them out of the way.

I have no IDEA what is causing the problem. :/

According the AMD/ATI website, One moderator says "Max safe temp is 104c" if that helps in anyway..

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 6:23pm by Pinkfyre

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 6:26pm by Pinkfyre


If thats max you should be ok at your temps, but it wouldnt hurt to try to lower it a lil, even just for peace of mind
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#14 Feb 07 2011 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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Third recommendation for MSI Afterburner.

I have a 5870 and run at 1080 resolution, 2xAA, DoF off.

With an MSI custom fan profile enabled I never exceed 68c.
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#15 Feb 07 2011 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
I think I may have a problem.. Even with MSI Afterburner.. and Fan set to 100% I reached 100c :/
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100c?! Holy crud man/woman, something's seriously wrong here.
#17 Feb 07 2011 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
I currently run two 5770s, both overclocked at 910/1320 on stock volts, and in windowed mode, with fan speeds at 100%, I've seen temps hit as high as 84C at 99% Load - which is alright, but 90+ is pushing it a bit. I'll admit, I haven't had the time to change the thermal paste, but should do once I'm a bit freer.

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I think I may have a problem.. Even with MSI Afterburner.. and Fan set to 100% I reached 100c :/


Use GPU-Z or ATI Catalyst Control Center to see what your current clocks are. If your card is overclocked too much (Generally 5770s are clocked at 825-875MHz/1200-1250MHz, depending on brand,) that could be a reason for the heat. Have you used ATI's Auto-Overdrive in Catalyst Control Center? It's not a reliable way to push your card, since it only does mini-tests of stability, not full hours of gaming.


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My 470 runs @ around 85-90 under load. I used to care and turn the fans up to drop it to the 70s but I don't really care about this piece of **** card anymore. I hope it explodes so I have a reason to go out and replace it with something decent. What a hunk of Nvidia garbage. Hopefully the 600 series will be a big improvement.
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#19 Feb 07 2011 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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Another thing you might wanna try is getting a can of compressed air and blowing out all the dust inside ur case and gpu.
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I also use MSI Afterburner and am satisfied with it. I set my own fan speed profile, with a maximum of 70% speed. The temp never goes above 80C unless it's in full load.

The newer GPUs can easily handle over 80C temps (official max temps of in between 100-110). It's when the GPU goes over 90C that you should worry.

Pinkfyre wrote:
I think I may have a problem.. Even with MSI Afterburner.. and Fan set to 100% I reached 100c :/

Assuming you're not overvolting your GPU:

The first thing you should take a look at is your airflow through the case. Bad airflow will contribute to significant increase in temps.

The second thing you should look at is the fan on the GPU. Is the fan working properly? Is there a lot of dust on the fan or heatsink?

And the third thing is the thermal paste. Obviously the card -should- have passed a factory test before being released retail, but quality control isn't always perfect. Now this isn't something I recommend everyone to do since it voids your warranty when you tamper with the video card itself. But if you don't mind doing things yourself, you can try reapplying the thermal paste on your GPU with an aftermarket one. There are a few which are really good. Arctic Silver 5 is good and common so you can find that easily, but I recommend ShinEtsu or MX3, I think they're the top of the food chain. Some video cards come with mediocre thermal paste, so using one of those that I mentioned will cool your GPU down a lot. But some video cards already come with very good pastes. The Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 (the one I'm using), for example, already comes with an excellent paste. That card naturally runs hotter than most other 460s, so I tried replacing the thermal paste with MX3, but that only improved my temps by...1C. So yeah, some cards already come with really, really good pastes.

If everything above is fine...you may just have a faulty card. You can try returning it if you still can. Like I said, quality control isn't perfect.

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Pinkfyre wrote:
I think I may have a problem.. Even with MSI Afterburner.. and Fan set to 100% I reached 100c :/


Uryuu wrote:
100c?! Holy crud man/woman, something's seriously wrong here.


Agreed, 100 C is tooo hot, and you will burn up your card. Where is the computer located? there seems to be an airflow problem there. Make sure that the air going over the card is not blocked in some fashion.(check the back ports (exaust) and make sure they are open. Also, what other posters have stated about blowing out the card.

I have a Q9550 with a Matrox TH2Gd running on 3840x1024 on a GTX 480 with minimal problems and my temps stay around 75-85C.

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#22 Feb 08 2011 at 7:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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I currently run two 5770s, both overclocked at 910/1320 on stock volts, and in windowed mode, with fan speeds at 100%, I've seen temps hit as high as 84C at 99% Load - which is alright, but 90+ is pushing it a bit. I'll admit, I haven't had the time to change the thermal paste, but should do once I'm a bit freer.


You change your class to amateur computer builder.
You use Screwdriver on XFX 5770 #1.
The attempt fails! You lose 2 screws.
You use Toothpick on GPU Fan.
The attempt succeeds! You remove 95% of dust.
You use Arctic Silver 5 on GPU.
The attempt succeeds! You don't need to clean up any mess.
You use Screwdriver on XFX 5770 #1.
The attempt succeeds! You secure the card together.

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You change your class to FFXIV Player.
You use Fan Speed 100% on XFX 5770 #1.
The attempt succeeds! Your idle temperature is now 45C.
You use Teleport-to-graphically-intense-area.
The attempt succeeds! Your 99% load temperature is now 76C.

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#23 Feb 08 2011 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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I had faulty RAM. I'm not sure how this would have effected GPU temp, but after replacing the RAM I run about 10 degrees cooler average. Was about 80, now around 70.
#24 Feb 08 2011 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
That case isn't made for PC gaming, and not that XIV is the end all of graphics it does stress things because of some sloppy coding.

Is there a reason you have that case?

If not I'd suggest moving up to something like

CM Elite 330
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127584

I'm linking to a UK site but in USD the case is roughly 30.00. I built my wifes PC in the Elite 310 that this model replaced and it's running SLI 8xxx Nvidia cards that didn't exactly run cool. It's doing it no problem. Cable management is a bit of a pain but I bet easier than what you have going on. Overall I was actually impressed with the build quality on the 310 and I would assume the 330's a touch better.

If there's a specific reason you're running what's meant to be a media PC case, you're going to have to spend a bit of money to get one that provides proper airflow. Honestly IMO the 2 areas you don't go cheap on are a case and the PSU as you should be able to use them for multiple builds over the years.

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You use Arctic Silver 5 on GPU.

Honestly after using MX2 I don't think I'll use AS5 on a GPU ever again nor reccomend much else to a computer noob. Using 2 different methods with the MX2 I got perfect coverage both times. I know what I'm doing for the most part and it took me 4 tries just to figure out which pattern to use with AS5 to not get cracking and a good spread. The slightly larger than a pea method worked just as well as the fat (because we're talking GPUs) line method. For the AS5 I had to do a charlie brown line to get perfect coverage... then again I'm not a fan of Nvidias non-smooth based coolers this round.

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I think the question has been answered but here's what I'd do:

Make sure I have good ventilation, not only does that mean throwing big fans in a big case, but strategically placing fans to cause a steady stream of intake and exhaust; removing or pining wires down so not to obstruct case air flow.

Make sure I have the proper drivers installed.

See how other games perform, or use other benchmarking tools and try getting some sort of baseline.

If none of those work, and temps are abnormally high, then re-seat the gpu, maybe even buy an aftermarket cooler.

GPUs in general run a bit hotter than CPUs so even temps of 100c aren't out of the ordinary. My 8800GT runs FFXIV pretty hot at around 80c even with an aftermarket cooler.



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