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#1 Feb 09 2011 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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After reading through the patch notes since I left in early December I have decided to play again to see how I enjoy it.

Has anyone else came back recently and enjoyed the experience in relation to early release?

I normally play multiple MMO's at a more "casual" pace. I put a lot of hours in but end game raiding outside of pick up group's or guild alliances never interest me. Essentially I hate having a play schedule where I have to be on from 6-10 M/W/F or something.

I'm playing EQ2 again right now, well, I never really quit since it's release. I like the game so much because there is always something to do, from crafting to decorating your house, collecting shinies, farming rare mobs or doing HQ's(really long quest chains with great story line).

I've also been playing the Rift beta. It's alright, seems like it could get old really fast, but I am sure I will pick it up and give it a go just for the new factor.

I still am on my free trial with this game so I am not out anything. Just wanted to see if anyone has some insight on the changes and if they think a player like me would have fun in this game now, even if I only log in once or twice a week between other games.
#2 Feb 09 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Good
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There's already many threads on that topic.
My opinion (I also came back recently): Leveling has become far easier,
yet there's still nothing worth leveling for.
#3 Feb 09 2011 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I bought this game literally the day it came out, and I, like many other Final Fantasy fans, was bitterly disappointed. I liked the game, but it was very hard to get into without any kind of real tutorial, and there was not a lot of content. I feel that SE is making progress towards fixing the major problems with the game and I'm excited to see where it goes.

I have recently come back to playing too (I read about the recent updates and it interested me). The game is still free to play right now, so I had nothing to lose. After playing a bit more, I can say that I like the direction the game is going now. The recent changes to the market ward and increase in SP gains have made it more enjoyable. It's still a long way from perfect, but I do enjoy playing.

I really really liked FFXI, it was one of my favorite games. I quit it because I just didn't have time to wait 3+ hours to find a group and then 3+ hours more in the group getting exp and there was nothing to do without a group. I like this game because if I only have an hour or two to play, I can level crafting or go fishing or do some leves solo or join in on a behest. And if I have a bunch of time, I can join a party and we don't need to sit around waiting in town until we find the exact right combination of classes in order to be able to do anything.

Also I just wanted to let you know that these forums are full of trolls and naysayers. Don't let their terrible opinions ruin your game-play experience. A person can get very jaded reading all the negativity. What is comes down to for me is: Am I having fun, right now, playing this game? Yes.
#4 Feb 09 2011 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
I also reactivated recently to see if it was better. The interface is definitely better. I went to the market wards and it took me like 3 minutes to buy a new weapon (mine was worn down). That was nice. Then I went and did some leves, and well, they are the same. Then I was like. Well, now what. And I couldn't think of anything. So I left. I might have more fun if I went and did crafting and tried to sell things. I just don't feel motivated to get anywhere in this game right now, I'm kind of like level? For what? Hopefully that changes.

I was interested in EQ2, but I heard that there's far too small a population now? Any truth to that? It sounds like its well made now and I'd love to have a game that allowed me to do things like set up a house.
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#5 Feb 09 2011 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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I also recently came back.

Is there a reason to party with others? I really wished there was that option when FFXIV launched, but it seemed like no one ever played together.

If there is party play now, what is it?

Edited, Feb 9th 2011 5:19pm by KanzenZenaku
#6 Feb 09 2011 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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I logged in last night, ran around Uldah, it was fairly empty yet I was getting lag as if there were people there. A lot more lag than when I was playing every day about a month ago. There really should be no lag. Nasty choppy lag. Left the city and it ran perfect as normal.

I logged off.
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#7 Feb 09 2011 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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I was interested in EQ2, but I heard that there's far too small a population now? Any truth to that? It sounds like its well made now and I'd love to have a game that allowed me to do things like set up a house.

Play on Antonia Bayle if you do start up. It has a wonderful community of helpful players, still pretty active when I play around.

It does have a steep learning curve, but that is because you can literally do almost anything you want from defiling to another class to housing, collecting, crafting, open world dungeon crawling, HQ's, etc. There are of course enough quests to make your head spin as well.

It, along with FFXI at it's time and EQ are my favorite MMO's of all time. The game is very solo friendly now so don't be intimidated that you need a group to get anywhere, but it is much more fun to play duo with something like a guardian/fury combo.


I just did a few leve's, the SP gain is solid now, maybe even a bit high, but I can see myself just logging on to do leve's every few days, I had fun.

The interface is 100000000x faster and better, inventory sorting is nice. I've yet to see the new market wards or what they have done there, but from the notes and player's it seems they made it better.

The world is bland still sadly, i'm not sure they can fix that until an expansion however. I really did not like the copy pasted landscape, but I did not think that would change.
#8 Feb 09 2011 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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KanzenZenaku wrote:
I also recently came back.

Is there a reason to party with others? I really wished there was that option when FFXIV launched, but it seemed like no one ever played together.

If there is party play now, what is it?

Edited, Feb 9th 2011 5:19pm by KanzenZenaku

You get more SP for being in a party and fighting harder things. Most people seem to only party with their fellow LS members, but usually if I see some people grouped and ask just ask if I can join, they will say yes. Doesn't seem like anyone uses the party search function at all, but hopefully that will change soon.
#9 Feb 09 2011 at 5:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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For those who have recently returned, don't forget to try a Behest. Every hour, at the top of the hour, look for the NPC Battlewarden that spawns at each Camp. You will likely see a group of players huddled around waiting for the NPC to pop.

To see when the next Behest begins, type in the /clock command.

Talk to the Warden to join the Behest, then ask the players around for an invite to the Behest party. After that, just follow the other players. (Remember to only attack the red mobs that other players have already attacked. Attacking yellow mobs causes reduced SP for everyone.)

This is quickly becoming the most popular activity in FFXIV. For those giving the game a second look, you don't want to miss this. An easy-to-join group activity with great SP rewards? (Yes, please.)

On a side note, Behests at Ul'dah camps fill up very quick (sometimes less than 5 seconds). If you are having trouble getting in, you may want to choose another camp for the next try. You can even immediately teleport to another camp and still have time to get into a Behest that is not full.

#10 Feb 10 2011 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
I recently (well about 3 weeks ago) came back and really enjoy FFXIV at the moment but I think it is mainly to do with the fact that I have gotten to know a group of nice people that actually do things together.

The UI, marketwards and the SP has improved to a stage that the game is actually fun to play. Crafting and mining seems to be pretty ok too.

Leves are still pretty boring (go here, kill x amount of these) - however doing them in groups and levelinking makes them a bit less boring (I read through the levecards the other day for the 1st time too!)

Behest is ok I guess but to me it's just leeching very easy SP...

I do agree that there is no reason to lvl up your character at the moment (except just the sake of lvling) as there is no content what so ever (well besides some Faction NMs). I am enjoying the SPing at the moment, but now 3 weeks worth of playing makes me go "and then?"
Since there are no gear levels (i.e. goals for me to get a certain piece of gear), no big storyline battles, PvE areas, advanced jobs to unlock and so on, I feel that I will probably take another break for a month or so and see what SE brings for us contentwise.

I think it is not the time to come back to FFXIV yet, maybe wait one more patch and then try it - just my opinnion of course!

Edited, Feb 10th 2011 5:09am by LeilaniWildfire
#11 Feb 10 2011 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Finished d/l'ing the newest patchs, but can't bring myself to log in. Biggest thing that I can see is that you can sort inv and search the wards. But I still don't know what my motivation is supposed to be.

This game is really not what I expected when I think about Final Fantasy. Where are the dungeons, and bosses? Where is my involvement in the "Missions"? I feel more like a spectator than a "Champion".
#12 Feb 11 2011 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Your playstyle seems very similar to my own. I too spend a lot of hours playing, but do not tend to enjoy "hardcore" end game raiding. I do mainly enjoy PvP at end game(but there is none here so it's irrelevant to this point), yet I still find the game fun.

I do a leve-group with my small linkshell(about five of us when we're all on), "casualy" "every night". We just take leves that link.** It takes about 2-3 hours depending on how many we can link up. If I feel like playing more, I'm in a few larger linkshells that I can join up with, and if that doesn't pan out; there are pick up groups. I rarely grind mobs outside of leves or behests unless they're in the way to the target.

As far as my goals for leveling are, there is only one at the moment. To create a character. I enjoy the ability to choose what abilities I use, rather than just have the ones associated solely with my class. I also enjoy the fact that I don't feel the armor I wear defines me; it's the abilities I bring to battle. I find there are far more things to do other than "press 1" over and over in smaller groups, so to me it is a bit more tactical and fun.
I don't craft so I can't really comment on that.

There are plenty of bad things about the game but I have a blast.

Anyway goodluck!

** I am aware the best SP gains are accepting certain leves and abandoning them so you can repeat them in parties of 15. I enjoy moving around, plus I get to keep the faction(for NM leves later).
#13 Feb 11 2011 at 1:13 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm hardly the most accomplished player here, but my motivation to log and play is to be on the frontlines of a game that is likely to be around for a long time. This game is far from its potential, but the vast improvements since launch day tell me this game will get there eventually.

In FFXI, I spent most of my first year in game just leveling to 75. I never really did have the benefit of crafting, nor did I really farm until I was around level 60. This time around, I'd like to think I'm getting my basic leveling out of the way (or at least partially) before content is implemented.

It also helps that I've found a few cool people to hang out and do leves with.
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