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#1 Feb 10 2011 at 5:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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The development and management teams continue to address the questions and concerns of the community in an ongoing FAQ. The topic addressed this time around is guild marks.

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#2 Feb 10 2011 at 6:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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These continue to be handy to people that started playing in the last 24 hours or so but not so much for the long standing comunity ^^

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#3 Feb 10 2011 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Elmer is back! More JP news!

And an age old question is answered:

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How do I get guild marks?

Local Levequests
Can sometimes be selected in place of gil as a reward from clients after completion of levequests Rank 15 and above.



Edited, Feb 10th 2011 7:03am by GuiltyBoomerang
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#4 Feb 10 2011 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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Smelting Training - Blacksmith - A large volume containing detailed instructions on how to make nails and rivets.


And a new question is asked.
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#5 Feb 10 2011 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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Yay!!! I never knew how to get those!
They must have poured their lifeblood into delivering these groundbreaking news!
Thank you so much, SE!
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One thing I don't understand is that both in-game and in this FAQ it says that completing a regional levequest as a class other than the guildmarks of the class to be awarded will yield less guildmarks, indicating that you'd recieve at least some. However every time I've done a levequest as the wrong class I get zero guildmarks.

Is there a point where you get a small fraction of the guild marks for completing as the wrong class, or does less simply mean zero?
#7 Feb 10 2011 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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There's another mistranslation from the japanese (presumed) original.
The Japanese version correctly states that you *may* *perhaps* receive
guildmarks instead of Gil. The English version incorrectly states that
you are able to choose.
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Hydragyrum wrote:
One thing I don't understand is that both in-game and in this FAQ it says that completing a regional levequest as a class other than the guildmarks of the class to be awarded will yield less guildmarks, indicating that you'd recieve at least some. However every time I've done a levequest as the wrong class I get zero guildmarks.

Is there a point where you get a small fraction of the guild marks for completing as the wrong class, or does less simply mean zero?


If you swapped to the right class and killed at least one of the levequest targets, you'll get a small fraction of the guild marks, but otherwise yes, less = zero if you do the whole levequest as the wrong class. At least from my own personal experience. (I haven't tested to see if you'll get 0 for doing one of those Horn and the Hand faction leves on the 'wrong' class)

The table needs a bit of proofreading though:
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Self-Preservation Gladiator Increases the length of your guard ability by 50%. 6,000

I'm pretty sure they meant 8k guild marks.

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Smelting Training Blacksmith A large volume containing detailed instructions on how to make nails and rivets. 5,000

And they meant Nailcasting Training.

Mistakes on official information irks me for some reason.
#9 Feb 10 2011 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok info in general (minus the "lost in translation" info)

Too bad however that they did not include the variable(s) affecting the Guild Marks Vs gil reward probability for crafting leves in this Q&A.

I'm pretty sure this would be the #1 question everyone hoped to see the answer from.
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#10 Feb 10 2011 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
Oooh I need to go raise mining so I can be ~*MASTER OF ROCK*~!!!! *devil horns*
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Guild Marks for R30 Regional Leves is still based an classes you have over Rank 10?

R40?

I was hoping as I advanced far enough only the classes close to that Leve's Rank would be chosen for Guildmarks.

There was a thread long ago about not leveling classes past 9 if you want specfic guildmarks only. Seems to be true.
#13 Feb 10 2011 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
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It is kinda a pity they are still brining up news like this when they should look at how bare bones the "Guild Marks" system really is. It's kind of lame that the only way to learn 1-2 new skills is by progressing through a story that in itself dull in terms of challenge and never truly offers any excitement.

For a spoiler of what I rememeber
As a Marauder you are sent to a tower for training, that training is to eliminate like 10-15 rats in the area and then boom your training is complete and you win that quest. I mean sure it's your first quest in the Marauder storyline but it's just so lame at how pathetically easy it is to get through it and it just doesn't leave you feeling like you accomplished a difficult task.

I wish they would talk about how they plan to enrich the Guild Marks system and make getting GM more accessible for certain classes especially Crafters. When it comes to crafters it's a shot in the dark if you'll get GM or not, you're never told until you recieve your reward and that in itself is frustrating. If you would like to obtain certain books for your craft you gotta hope that in the 3-4 Crafting crafts that you get that are 15+ reward you with Guild marks. Nothing more annoying then running to a territory of aggro that can one shot you just to be rewarded with 4k gil. granted that complaint is kinda moot now that they did lower the anima cost a fair bit but the frustration is still there considering how fickle some craft leves can be.

To be honest I haven't played in a long while, I burned out working on Woodworking and while some of the changes they've made are appealing ina sense, they've really only knocked into the visual appeal of things, I feel like they haven't really hit the nail on the major flaws of the game. With the promises of each update to be had when it does come and I see what it offers it does become disappointing that they still seem to miss the point as to what players want to do. Granted it will take time but I just hope that soon enough they'll end up adding something that will actually throw some life into the game rather then make it feel a tad mundane.
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RufuSwho wrote:
Guild Marks for R30 Regional Leves is still based an classes you have over Rank 10?

R40?

I was hoping as I advanced far enough only the classes close to that Leve's Rank would be chosen for Guildmarks.

There was a thread long ago about not leveling classes past 9 if you want specfic guildmarks only. Seems to be true.


I was under the assumption that at least for battlecraft--- r30 leves will have a higher chance to give marks for classes over r20, and r40 leves will have a higher chance to give marks for classes over r30. Or something like that. It seems my upper tier battle leves never give me marks for the classes I ranked to r10 and stopped.

Edited, Feb 10th 2011 11:38am by SylOdinsdottir
#15 Feb 10 2011 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
BartelX wrote:
Oh, fyi, the marks from an r10 leve are VERY rare. I've gotten 1 in about 50 or more, which is probably why you didn't see them when you did 16.


http://www.zam.com/forum.html?forum=173&mid=1295725082142338280#msg1295960538182632065

ORLY?

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Local Levequests: Can sometimes be selected in place of gil as a reward from clients after completion of levequests rank 15 and above


Funny how that thread got a few people rate downs who were adamandt it was R15+

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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Oh, fyi, the marks from an r10 leve are VERY rare. I've gotten 1 in about 50 or more, which is probably why you didn't see them when you did 16.


http://www.zam.com/forum.html?forum=173&mid=1295725082142338280#msg1295960538182632065

ORLY?

Quote:
Local Levequests: Can sometimes be selected in place of gil as a reward from clients after completion of levequests rank 15 and above


Funny how that thread got a few people rate downs who were adamandt it was R15+



So you're accusing BartelX at hacking because it's obvious he's getting GM from r10 ALC?

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5836/r10guildmarks.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2435/r10guildmarks2.jpg

Notice he said he got only 95 SP into r10 ALC after the leve. And, what's that about Smelting Training = Nail + Rivets? I'm quite sure these Q&A has been prepared well in the Beta and they are just releasing them bit by bit every weeks now to show that they are "actively communicate with new players".

Here at the bottom
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=1e61594542692375bcf4e3f19739271b62246c3b

New leves opened at r5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45. I'm at r46, unless you're telling me I can get r55 local (which doesn't exist), your point is invalid or at least questionable. You can not get r15 leve without being r10.


Edited, Feb 10th 2011 6:37pm by Khornette
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SylOdinsdottir wrote:
RufuSwho wrote:
Guild Marks for R30 Regional Leves is still based an classes you have over Rank 10?

R40?

I was hoping as I advanced far enough only the classes close to that Leve's Rank would be chosen for Guildmarks.

There was a thread long ago about not leveling classes past 9 if you want specfic guildmarks only. Seems to be true.


I was under the assumption that at least for battlecraft--- r30 leves will have a higher chance to give marks for classes over r20, and r40 leves will have a higher chance to give marks for classes over r30. Or something like that. It seems my upper tier battle leves never give me marks for the classes I ranked to r10 and stopped.

Edited, Feb 10th 2011 11:38am by SylOdinsdottir


I sure hope this turns out to be true. Sometimes all 3 of the available R20 Battlecraft Leves are rewarding guild marks for a class I'm not focusing on.
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Why, as a Rank 35 weaver, did the Limsa Lominsa local leve master present me with a set of leves varying in difficulty from rank 1 to rank 10?
#19 Feb 10 2011 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
Almantia wrote:
Why, as a Rank 35 weaver, did the Limsa Lominsa local leve master present me with a set of leves varying in difficulty from rank 1 to rank 10?


As a R23 Blacksmith and R22 Armorer I got all 1s and 5s in LL where you would figure Blacksmith and Armorer would get good leves.
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