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DoL/DoH and abnormal SP tactics?Follow

#1 Feb 11 2011 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
Just wondering if since the last patch any one has attempted to gain SP in combat with DoL or DoH say... in Behest? I remember a while back people were talking about mass stun parties, but I assume that was fixed. The reason I'm asking instead of testing is I couldn't just switch to either of those classes seriously in a Pick Up Behest Group. I'd try it out myself if I could get all my LS together and find an empty Behest site.

The second question is regarding SP bonus for either class. Say you have 15 similar ranked Goldsmiths and you all were crafting in the same spot on similar items (in or out of leves), is there any effect? If not this is one area I think there should be, the first method I asked about I would see as a potential exploit but this one makes sense.

I tried to search but couldn't find anything on the subject since release.
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#2 Feb 11 2011 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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You dont get SP for a none DoW/DoM class for combat, you can get EXP but not SP.

As for the crafting party, i have not tested, but as far as im aware there is zero party bonus for crafting.
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#3 Feb 11 2011 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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No there is not a bonus for crafting in a group. Nor is there a bonus for mining/botany/fishing in a group. Wish there was...
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#4 Feb 11 2011 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
Guess I need to make a suggestions thread for the latter then ^^
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#5 Feb 11 2011 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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BartelX wrote:
No there is not a bonus for crafting in a group. Nor is there a bonus for mining/botany/fishing in a group. Wish there was...


You do get bonus SP for linking DoL leve, but you get less swing/chop/jig because everyone swing/chop/jig counts toward the total for the leve. Ex. 3 points leve has total 15 swing/chop/jig, 5 people in pt will get humongous SP per swing/chop/jig but in return each people would get 3 swing/chop/jig instead of 15 (assuming everyone playing at the same pace). 3 items leve is even worse because you only get bonus SP for the item, and that doesn't go to everyone.
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#6 Feb 13 2011 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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If their going to call the DOH and DOL classes they really need to give them party sp during leves. not really sure how this would happen. Playing those classes in solo really. I gues you could always just travel with a buddy from location to location. But i guess that would be the extent of party play.

Also never party DOL guild leves, if its your leve you get screwed on SP. They really need to come up with a way to get better SP. Oh ya i wonder if you would get the SP bonus the more , lets say, Miners you have in your party.
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#7 Feb 13 2011 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Pretty sure when group crafting projects are implemented it will grant bonus SP as that would be equivalent of a bunch of DoW/DoM partying.
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#8 Feb 14 2011 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I've always wondered if DoL get Sp for combat but I always switched to a DoW class because stones and rocks can't win a fight on mobs 25 levels below you in this game.
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#9 Feb 14 2011 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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Warmech wrote:
I've always wondered if DoL get Sp for combat but I always switched to a DoW class because stones and rocks can't win a fight on mobs 25 levels below you in this game.


They may not get SP for combat, but if you really want some to do something for lulz, grab a group of DoLs and BR an arbour squirrel with Rock Throw -> Rock Throw -> Rock Throw. For extra lulz make sure everyone Wrist Flicks before BRing. You don't get any SP, and the XP is pretty minimal but it's hilarious. (Of course this was pre-patch so I don't know if S-E ever fixed this.)
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