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#1 Feb 12 2011 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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Hitting different levels of fatigue is based on the SP earned rather than time spent, correct? Anyone have a rough idea of how much SP is needed to hit different levels of fatigue?

Also, what is the reset timer on fatigue? Does it help by being logged off or standing around on a different job? I've been getting mixed fatigue reset timers ranging from one day to over a week. I've gone out to fight some stuff to clear away the fatigue in both situations.
#2 Feb 12 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I think around 130k+ SP to hit fatigue, another 130k+ to hit near 100% fatigue.
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It's a lot less.
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Grinding my DoW from 45-50 we would steadily get around 40-45k per leve party and after my reset I could get around 2 1/2 leve resets before hitting the first level of fatigue. Although on DoH and DoL I find if I grind 60-80k on one craft I reach fatigue. If I log or mine 60-80k I start to damage all the items I'm trying to log/mine. I don't know why SE seems to think your DoH & DoL class should fatigue quicker than DoW class. I have tested this several times to confirm.
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I don't think it's anywhere near an equal amount to get into fatigue as it is to get to 100%. I always hit fatigue the same day or next day after it resets, and it goes up pretty slowly after that. It feels more like it goes up 10% each time you hit that same amount.

As far as reseting, it resets a week after you gained your first SP in a given job after the last reset.

So, if your PUG reset on Thursday at 10pm, and you started playing your PUG again Friday at 2pm. Then hit fatigue on Monday, it would reset Friday at 2pm. Each job has its own timer. EXP probably works in the same way, I've just never paid attention to it.

To be honest though, fatigue isn't a big deal. I started hitting it in 1-2 days around 25 and have ever since, and I just play through it. I mean, you figure if you're hanging out w/ friends doing leves, and you're 3 tiers deep into fatigue, and they all get 100k SP, you still get 70k. Which is A) more on the class you want to rank up, B) more than you'd get soloing on some lower job class because you felt forced to,and C) more fun, because you're playing with your friends. That's all invalid if you have another group of friends that are a lower rank though :)

I haven't done steady SP grinding with the new SP changes yet, which of course means everyone can fatigue faster, and I might get past that 50% mark and my attitude might change, but your numbers turning yellow isn't all that big of a deal, especially if it's happening to you halfway through the week. Just keep playing like normal and ignore it.

Something else to note, your yellow numbers indicating fatigue will never disappear until you kill something/craft something (increase the SP value) on that class. So don't just switch to check if it's gone yet. In the example above about the PUG, when he switched to PUG on Friday, his numbers would still be yellow, but when he killed something, he wouldn't receive the bonus SP message, and his numbers would instantly turn white, which might make some people believe the act of killing something brought them out of fatigue, but it's just an interface bug. It doesn't get told when fatigue resets except by -not- getting that message after a kill/craft, apparently.

I'm on a week away from any comp that can handle FFXIV, so when I get back all my jobs will be out of fatigue and I plan to A) confirm that the reset happens exactly 7 days after I start playing again and B) confirm the amount of SP it takes for me to hit fatigue. (Going to see what it is on my 44 ARC, and my 6 LNC I think, to see if there's a difference based on rank.)
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Fatigue is 80k SP(if done straight), this has been tried and tested dozens of times over the last few months and is out there if you look for the info.

theres a reason you hit it between level 17-18(guess how much SP youve earned by then!) if you do it from scratch

tested this many times over.



Fatigue resets each week, 7 days to the tee from the first time you earned SP on that job(if your gonna be using a specific job alot and want to know when, keep track of when it comes off the first time, thatl be your reset time)

Edited, Feb 12th 2011 9:02am by Vedis
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Over the course of about 48 hours, it takes about 120k SP to hit fatigue.

There was one Tuesday night where I just got out of fatigue and started doing a set of leves. Then Wednesday night I did another leve run. Then the Thursday night I did another, and I hit fatigue after about 120k total SP from Tues night to Thurs night.

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#8 Feb 12 2011 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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Vedis wrote:
Fatigue is 80k SP(if done straight), this has been tried and tested dozens of times over the last few months and is out there if you look for the info.

theres a reason you hit it between level 17-18(guess how much SP youve earned by then!) if you do it from scratch

tested this many times over.



Fatigue resets each week, 7 days to the tee from the first time you earned SP on that job(if your gonna be using a specific job alot and want to know when, keep track of when it comes off the first time, thatl be your reset time)

Edited, Feb 12th 2011 9:02am by Vedis


This is absolutely NOT accurate at all levels. This week, my fatigue completely reset on Wednesday. When it did, I had just reached 48k into rank 44. I then proceeded to go from that point, until I hit r46 straight through with no breaks on other jobs, and did not hit fatigue. That is roughly 125k worth of SP. Unless there was some kind of glitch here, that 80k number is not always accurate.
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#9 Feb 13 2011 at 12:30 AM Rating: Decent
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About 80k is indeed fairly accurate for low rank classes (I started a new class and hit surplus when I got to rank 18-19, which is about 80k).

The 120k number I posted above was when I was in my early 40s, so it's consistent with the above poster.

So I guess the amount of SP required to hit fatigue scales up with rank.

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#10 Feb 13 2011 at 4:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
About 80k is indeed fairly accurate for low rank classes (I started a new class and hit surplus when I got to rank 18-19, which is about 80k).

The 120k number I posted above was when I was in my early 40s, so it's consistent with the above poster.

So I guess the amount of SP required to hit fatigue scales up with rank.



my 80k number was tested into the early 30s, at which point it seemed consistant enough to just stop caring.
At the low 40s with my conjurer, with a straight session of play after coming off....i still seem to hit it around 80k(this was looked at just last week)

logging off, playing on other jobs etc etc will in fact raise this ammount. was that 120k you guys were looking at "straight play" with no logging off or breaks?
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My single 120k result was in a span of about 48 hours, as I stated in my other post above. I logged off in between the 3 leve runs.

Edit: Next time I come out of fatigue, if I don't forget, I'll try to get 80k+ in one session and see if I hit fatigue.


Edited, Feb 13th 2011 8:27am by Threx
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#12 Feb 13 2011 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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Vedis wrote:
Threx wrote:
About 80k is indeed fairly accurate for low rank classes (I started a new class and hit surplus when I got to rank 18-19, which is about 80k).

The 120k number I posted above was when I was in my early 40s, so it's consistent with the above poster.

So I guess the amount of SP required to hit fatigue scales up with rank.



my 80k number was tested into the early 30s, at which point it seemed consistant enough to just stop caring.
At the low 40s with my conjurer, with a straight session of play after coming off....i still seem to hit it around 80k(this was looked at just last week)

logging off, playing on other jobs etc etc will in fact raise this ammount. was that 120k you guys were looking at "straight play" with no logging off or breaks?


This I'm really not positive on. I can't remember if I logged off at all, but if I did, it was very minimal.
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#13 Feb 13 2011 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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I dont think it slowly "resets" the way they said it does. Last time I got fatigue, I changed classes the second I got fatigued. waited 24 hours and that job was still fatigued.
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Threx wrote:
My single 120k result was in a span of about 48 hours, as I stated in my other post above. I logged off in between the 3 leve runs.

Edit: Next time I come out of fatigue, if I don't forget, I'll try to get 80k+ in one session and see if I hit fatigue.


Edited, Feb 13th 2011 8:27am by Threx


im going to do some testing again too once i come out of fatigue in a few ranges starting monday
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Scape13 wrote:
I dont think it slowly "resets" the way they said it does. Last time I got fatigue, I changed classes the second I got fatigued. waited 24 hours and that job was still fatigued.


thats not how it works, so of course it didnt reset like that "time spent" on other classes means nothing, its based on SP earned, also ive noticed that once in fatigue, it doesnt come out properly based on the same idea

Edited, Feb 13th 2011 9:11am by Vedis
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#16 Feb 14 2011 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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Just an update


did a straight grind in mid 30s

80k sp was the magic number

ill be doing a 40s grind tonight
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IDK about this whole 80k thing anymore. I just got off of fatigue today(was 7 days since I started exping), and I got it again a few hours later. I has 114 exp into level when I logged on and I got fatigue around the 55k exp mark. I am now 56,000/72,000 for my next level. I wasn't paying much attention so I'm not sure when I got it again, but its way before 80k. I figured I would fatigue about 10k into the next level.
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Scape13 wrote:
IDK about this whole 80k thing anymore. I just got off of fatigue today(was 7 days since I started exping), and I got it again a few hours later. I has 114 exp into level when I logged on and I got fatigue around the 55k exp mark. I am now 56,000/72,000 for my next level. I wasn't paying much attention so I'm not sure when I got it again, but its way before 80k. I figured I would fatigue about 10k into the next level.


that may not have been a proper reset then, may be because you were logged out for so long


im working on a proper reset at level 44 right now, ill let you know the total when i hit fatigue, so far im 50k into it and no dice

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 8:16pm by Vedis
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#19 Feb 14 2011 at 10:36 PM Rating: Good
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conj just went on fatigue, rank 44


80k sp gained

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 8:36pm by Vedis
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I wish people would stop calling it fatigue only because Gatherer's also hit a different kind of fatigue and they call it the same thing.

DoW/M fatigue is easy to see and track. It's 80k and always has been.

DoL fatigue is irritating and I'd love to know the rules on its reset.
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