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#52 Feb 17 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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I couldn't figure out why everyone was so sure 1.15b was suppose to be content especially since our last patch was fairly significant.


"Quests are coming sometime after the beginning of February."

If he meant March then he should have said March.


Is it already March? Oh no... its February ^^ So..... whats the point? Content will still come February
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#53 Feb 17 2011 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe people will spread out among more camps for behest now. I guess this is a reason to go to Gridania occasionally...


While that would be ideal, the Anima system doesn't encourage that. Maybe if you could click on the crystal and travel to the same rank camp of a different nation for say 1-2 Anima during the Behest window... I wouldn't want to figure out how to code that, I couldn't even program a random 2 deck poker game.
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#54 Feb 17 2011 at 4:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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"Quests are coming sometime after the beginning of February."

Well technically April is also "sometime after the beginning of February" :P

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 5:10pm by melaniewing
#55 Feb 17 2011 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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Well I'm not going to lie, I'm disappointed. I really thought quests were coming in this patch. Maybe there will be some stuff that isn't listed. Anyway there's nothing I can do but be patient and wait.
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#56 Feb 17 2011 at 4:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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This patch wasn't the second content patch that is being released later this moth. This is what other games would cOnsider a hotfix. This was what the previous development team would have called an emergency update. There was no notice and they announced it the day of with no write up leading in.

Next week you will start seeing posts about what is coming in the content patch. I seriously wonder sometimes when people don't stop to think about the situation before they start complaining about it. Relax people and realize this was simply an update to fix what resulted from 1.15a. (hence why it was called 1.15b). The content update will have a slightly higher patch number (ie. 1.19)

#57 Feb 17 2011 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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"Quests are coming sometime after the beginning of February."

Well technically April is also "sometime after the beginning of February" :P

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 5:10pm by melaniewing


Well along that logic, they basically said they will release quests when they get around to it.
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#58 Feb 17 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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melaniewing wrote:
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"Quests are coming sometime after the beginning of February."

Well technically April is also "sometime after the beginning of February" :P

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 5:10pm by melaniewing


So is the apocalypse
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#59 Feb 17 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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"Quests are coming sometime after the beginning of February."

Well technically April is also "sometime after the beginning of February" :P

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 5:10pm by melaniewing


So is January if we want to push things...

We've got 11 days before I go into doubt mode again, until then I'll attempt to remain positive.
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#60 Feb 17 2011 at 4:16 PM Rating: Default
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Tsk tsk another month w/o content XD! Gotta love SE <.<
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#61 Feb 17 2011 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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There are two things to note about Yoshi's post.
He tried to warn us that the update was going to be a nerf to both DOH and to behest..
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Of course, we're still on the fence a bit about balancing the degree of difficulty for fifteen-member parties, but I personally am of the opinion that everyone playing together is what makes the game fun. And so that is the direction in which I would like to take the game, and take it as quickly as possible. It was for that reason that I opted to balance the skill and experience points rewards first, with the intention of later tackling the difficulty level, rather than vice versa. Further balancing adjustments are ongoing, and are being based on the new designs in place for a maximum party size of eight members, as well as the smaller four-member party, both of which I've added to our list of intended changes.

I kept a close eye on how things went for the week or so following the release of 1.15a. Not surprisingly, the maximum number of members and levels of difficulty for behests were less than ideal. Therefore, in the coming days we'll be looking into further improvements to bonuses awarded when participating in groups of nine or more. For now, I'd be happy to think that we've already taken care of some balancing issues that relate directly to future content. Also, the amount of experience points awarded to Disciples of the Hand is a bit on the large side, and will be balanced to be more akin to those awarded to Disciples of War and Magic.

I just realized an irony to this... If they are going to axe physical levels, what's the point of the DOH nerf, and why do I care?


And he did say that *some* content was supposed to be in the next patch. The issue here is the context of the word next. Did he mean next as in the one after the current one, or next as in the one coming up. Based on the patch notes of this one, it would be a fair assumption he meant the one following this one, which has made me a VERY sad panda... I don't think their quest engine can live up to my expectations anymore... So sad, cause I really do think they are trying...

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We are also in the process of putting together a new workflow to handle the development of new quests and sidequests. Though we will begin releasing these in the next patch, it will be difficult to release a large number of them at once. It is certainly possible to continue developing quests until we reach a target number, and then release them simultaneously, but this would slow the rate at which this new content would become available. I prefer to release fewer quests regularly as part of the monthly patches instead. This may give the impression of less content per patch, but I'd like to try it this way for a span of about two months or so and see how it goes. At the same time, we'll gradually be implementing system-side changes related to quests as well, aimed at improving user-friendliness.


Edited, Feb 17th 2011 3:56pm by rfolkker



From you bringing up his post again. It just hit me. It seems like he might have written this letter late last week or last weekend. So everything he talks about putting in is really for today.
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#62 Feb 17 2011 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
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This patch wasn't the second content patch that is being released later this moth. This is what other games would cOnsider a hotfix. This was what the previous development team would have called an emergency update. There was no notice and they announced it the day of with no write up leading in.

Next week you will start seeing posts about what is coming in the content patch. I seriously wonder sometimes when people don't stop to think about the situation before they start complaining about it. Relax people and realize this was simply an update to fix what resulted from 1.15a. (hence why it was called 1.15b). The content update will have a slightly higher patch number (ie. 1.19)


We can only hope.
#63 Feb 17 2011 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Well along that logic, they basically said they will release quests when they get around to it.


Yes, but it's no surprise it would lead people to believe what they did when Yoshida stated they would be a) doing two updates a month and b) next update is scheduled for two weeks after the first one (mid-February) and we foolishly assumed c) "Quests are coming after the beginning of February" actually meant something instead of just stating the obvious "we are going to implement quests someday".

Here's hoping for 1.15c next week. Or not.

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 1:26am by Hyanmen
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#64 Feb 17 2011 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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If it's labelled 1.15c then it won't be your content update either. Your looking for a different numbers, it means the version has then actually changed and not just fixes to the previously named patch. The only thing that has confused some people I think is that the one they decided actually display to the public had a letter in it.

I would pinky money on next Wednesday.
#65 Feb 17 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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"We gave you too many presents for Christmas, we are now going to take back some of those presents."

Also, very much on-topic, why do programmers label patches "1.15b"? Can some computer person explain this to me?

I mean, I understand the pattern and practice and progression of big patches get whole numbers, smaller patches get 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, tweaks to said smaller patches get .05, and apparently now "a" or "b" or "c" for for corrections / bug fixes...

But what's the point? Do we really need all the decimal places and sub-letters to identify the patches? Can't we just call every patch 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.? Is there any other justification?
#66 Feb 17 2011 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Tsk tsk another month w/o content XD! Gotta love SE <.<


Tsk tsk, another month without silence from Ostia in the ZAM XIV forums XD! Gotta love ZAM on Lodestone update days <.<

*EDIT* On a brighter note, I just had a thought. He said he was sad that this poll would only last a week... We all know that 2 weeks was too long for the last poll. So I would assume that the 24th will be the last day of the poll and that before or on the 28th at least we'll have the results of that. Maybe they didn't release the quest content until they knew where they wanted to go with the party system? Maybe they have multiple code patches ready but waiting? Ehhhh I'll just finish my beer, take off my tinfoil hat, finish my Kool-Aid and go to bed.

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 10:46pm by PerrinofSylph
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#67 Feb 17 2011 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
This was indeed just an addition to the Feb 10th version update. The update version didn't change, leading me to believe another version update is in store for Feb. My guess is Monday, since it shouldn't take 13 hours to make a security adjustment.
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#68 Feb 17 2011 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
This was indeed just an addition to the Feb 10th version update. The update version didn't change, leading me to believe another version update is in store for Feb. My guess is Monday, since it shouldn't take 13 hours to make a security adjustment.


I think this is very likely. They already said that the content update wouldn't be a big one, so my guess is that we'll get a Lodestone update tomorrow and then the update hits on Monday like you said. It makes perfect sense.
#69 Feb 17 2011 at 5:50 PM Rating: Good
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Another fail from SE. .. At the end of my rope here waiting for them to actually add some ******* content
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Speaking as a release engineer, I can honestly tell you that you are over-analyzing this by quite a bit. I could go into the semantics of it all, but please just accept the fact that, outside of throwing out some buzzwords here and there, and identifying who does what, there is nothing to be read into a vs b vs 99.999. It's just how they do it, and how they want to call it.

They call it a patch, so it's a patch. They said it would be in the next patch, so the only way to accept it is that they were referring to the patch after this one if it is not there now.
#71 Feb 17 2011 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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This patch is a freaking joke. Good thing no one was expecting anything to be added to the game. Oh wait, I think about 99% of the gamers were.

I doubt that their will be a 1.5c patch.
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"We gave you too many presents for Christmas, we are now going to take back some of those presents."

Also, very much on-topic, why do programmers label patches "1.15b"? Can some computer person explain this to me?

I mean, I understand the pattern and practice and progression of big patches get whole numbers, smaller patches get 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, tweaks to said smaller patches get .05, and apparently now "a" or "b" or "c" for for corrections / bug fixes...

But what's the point? Do we really need all the decimal places and sub-letters to identify the patches? Can't we just call every patch 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.? Is there any other justification?


It's for organization. I can't say for sure because I don't work for SE, but each number means something. 1.15b is really "1 - 15 - b". 1 may that this patch is part of the "vanilla" (no expansion pack) release. 15 may be the 15th patch with a unique theme. b is the second patch in the 15th theme.

I would guess the first patch after the first expansion would be 2.1a. The third hotfix to the twenty fist patch of the third expansion: 3.21c.

That's just my guess anyways.
#73 Feb 17 2011 at 7:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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*shakes head*

Really people? Some of the reactions people have had over this little patch are laughable. It is like some people treat the information we get from the dev team as if it is some hieroglyphics that are talking about an impending apocalypse. Ya'll make assumptions, as well as reading too much or too little in the information we are given. I really don't get how you could come to the conclusion that this patch was going to be one that was bigger or comparable in size as the previous one. I get the feeling that we will have a bigger patch later in this month.

Yoshi-P is doing what he says he is going to do. The whole sky is falling mentality is silly. I will have issues when he says that "X" is going to be in this update for sure. But, then "X" isn't in the update. So far, he has be delivering what he has been promising.
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Really people? Some of the reactions people have had over this little patch are laughable. It is like some people treat the information we get from the dev team as if it is some hieroglyphics that are talking about an impending apocalypse. Ya'll make assumptions, as well as reading too much or too little in the information we are given. I really don't get how you could come to the conclusion that this patch was going to be one that was bigger or comparable in size as the previous one. I get the feeling that we will have a bigger patch later in this month.

Yoshi-P is doing what he says he is going to do. The whole sky is falling mentality is silly. I will have issues when he says that "X" is going to be in this update for sure. But, then "X" isn't in the update. So far, he has be delivering what he has been promising.


I agree with you on that, but you do have to admit it's entertaining at least. :)
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thejones wrote:
"We gave you too many presents for Christmas, we are now going to take back some of those presents."

Also, very much on-topic, why do programmers label patches "1.15b"? Can some computer person explain this to me?

I mean, I understand the pattern and practice and progression of big patches get whole numbers, smaller patches get 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, tweaks to said smaller patches get .05, and apparently now "a" or "b" or "c" for for corrections / bug fixes...

But what's the point? Do we really need all the decimal places and sub-letters to identify the patches? Can't we just call every patch 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.? Is there any other justification?


The first part is the version number (the 1). The second part is the major revision (.15). Some software will also add a minor revision (e.g. 1.15.2) The a, b, c, could be their increments for minor revisions.

Minor revisions are typically hotfixes and minor updates, small changes. Major revisions are usually large pieces, typically the addition or removal of features or functionality. Version increments, in games, usually indicate an expansion.
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#76 Feb 17 2011 at 7:58 PM Rating: Good
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Just so people know, they announced a large maintenance for FFXIV but its only showing up in game for the moment (Stuff you see when you first log in). A ten hour maintenance is coming for FFXIV specifically on Feb 21st from 17:00 to 3:00 Feb 22nd PST or 1:00 to 11:00 GMT. More then likely THAT is the content patch most of us were waiting for. It could also be related to Square-Enix account change coming in Feb 21st as well... but they specifically said FFXIV was also undergoing maintenance and not just 'would be unavailable' like they usually do for account log in maintenance.
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I couldn't figure out why everyone was so sure 1.15b was suppose to be content especially since our last patch was fairly significant.


"Quests are coming sometime after the beginning of February."

If he meant March then he should have said March.



Not going to lie I thought THIS was it. =(

I had planned to play all day to check out the new content but honestly I'm not going to even log in to see these.
I'm just going to cry myself to be awake now. Can't believe I woke up at 5am just to see this.

When am I going to learn to expect the absolute bare minimum out of these patches?
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I agree with you on that, but you do have to admit it's entertaining at least. :)


Lol! They definitely are entertaining. I got quite a few laughs from a number of the posts on this thread ^__^
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Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
This was indeed just an addition to the Feb 10th version update. The update version didn't change, leading me to believe another version update is in store for Feb. My guess is Monday, since it shouldn't take 13 hours to make a security adjustment.

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Can someone explain to me how from 1:00 to 11:00 is 13 hours? I calculate 10 hours. Am I doing something wrong? And furthermore, I figure it would start 8a.m. EST and end 6 p.m. EST is that correct?

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Edited, Feb 18th 2011 1:31pm by lurex
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lurex the Intelligent wrote:
Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
This was indeed just an addition to the Feb 10th version update. The update version didn't change, leading me to believe another version update is in store for Feb. My guess is Monday, since it shouldn't take 13 hours to make a security adjustment.

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Can someone explain to me how from 1:00 to 11:00 is 13 hours? I calculate 10 hours. Am I doing something wrong? And furthermore, I figure it would start 8a.m. EST and end 6 p.m. EST is that correct?

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 1:30pm by lurex

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 1:31pm by lurex


EST is GMT -5. Since it's currently EDT (not EST) then EDT would be GMT -4. So 8 PM (21:00) to 6 AM (06:00) would be the correct time frame.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
EST is GMT -5. Since it's currently EDT (not EST) then EDT would be GMT -4. So 8 PM (21:00) to 6 AM (06:00) would be the correct time frame.

It's still EST. EDT doesn't start until mid March. 21:00 is 9:00 PM.

Monday, Feb 21 8:00PM EST TO Tuesday, Feb 22 6:00AM EST

Decent site for Time Conversions.


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