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#1 Feb 18 2011 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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hello i recently upgraded to an i7 and ever since my gpu has been at 99% usage outside of town almost constantly is that a bad thing? im using the 465 gtx overclocked a bit and in window mode

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 4:44pm by shady113
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#2 Feb 18 2011 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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Not sure if it's bad, but I can tell you mine always runs close to 99 too. Sometimes it concerns me, especially lately when I've heard a new grindy noise on occassion when it's blowing away. That's one thing I've never liked about fF14, it makes my GPU and fan run very loud, which is a problem because my computer is on my desk at the same level as my head -_- But aside from this, I've never had any problems with my computer and I have been playing since release.
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Not sure if it's bad, but I can tell you mine always runs close to 99 too. Sometimes it concerns me, especially lately when I've heard a new grindy noise on occassion when it's blowing away. That's one thing I've never liked about fF14, it makes my GPU and fan run very loud, which is a problem because my computer is on my desk at the same level as my head -_- But aside from this, I've never had any problems with my computer and I have been playing since release.


If the computer explodes, would that be considered a head shot? Will I get points for it?

It seems like RAM might be your problem. Maybe your graphics card is taking too much memory.
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It's possible, but it seems unlikely. All my specs are well above the required ones for optimal gameplay. I've considered trying to clean the fan from all the dust and **** but I'm afraid to go in there and mess around.
#5 Feb 18 2011 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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Try cleaning it with compressed air, but I doubt it would solve that gpu problem.
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shady113 wrote:
hello i recently upgraded to an i7 and ever since my gpu has been at 99% usage outside of town almost constantly is that a bad thing? im using the 465 gtx overclocked a bit and in window mode

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 4:44pm by shady113


It's not a bad thing -- it just means your GPU isn't waiting on instructions from your CPU anymore. I take it your framerate went up?
#7 Feb 18 2011 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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oh yea it went up a lot from my old cpu which was a intel quad core Q9400 @2.7 ghz, currently using an i7 950 @ 3.7ghz and 6gb triple channel ram, was getting 20 fps in town before and now i get 40-50 and im at a constant 60 fps outside of town at 1920x1080 res. im pretty sure my old cpu bottlenecked my 465
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#8 Feb 18 2011 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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Running a gpu at 99% isnt bad. In fact, if it's consistently below 90% that probably means your cpu is slowing you down and you're "wasting" gpu power.

If you're overclocking the thing to watch is the temperature of the gpu. I'm sure every card has it's own maximum temperature, but I never like to see it above 85 C.
#9 Feb 18 2011 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
The other day I decided to go and pull out my 2 5770 GPU's for a clean and thermal paste swap. It actually wasn't that hard to dismantle the cards (a few screws,) but I might have messed up the second card's paste since it now runs 7C hotter than the first card. As for cleaning the fans, I just got a toothpick and manually went over all the blades.

I'm not fussed since it only runs in Crossfire, but the first card now runs at 75-78C overclocked @ 925/1345 at 99% load, which is a huge improvement over 84-87C before the clean.
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#10 Feb 18 2011 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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also is 55c idle and 90c at full load on a i7 950 with the corsair H50 liquid cooling normal?
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#11 Feb 18 2011 at 9:09 PM Rating: Good
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shady113 wrote:
also is 55c idle and 90c at full load on a i7 950 with the corsair H50 liquid cooling normal?


I've never done liquid cooling, but since 90C is only 10 degrees away from boiling the water in your cooling pipes... I'd say that's too hot.

Is this "load" consistent during FFXIV, or is it a peak load during a stress test?
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95-100% GPU usage is ideal. It means you're getting full use out of your GPU and not being bottlenecked. Just make sure you're not overheating.

90c on a CPU is pretty high. i7's can take a lot of heat, but 90c is way too high. I'd aim for maybe 70c load at most. Anything higher just means you're shortening your CPU's life span. The H50 isn't a true liquid cooling system. High end air cooling systems like the Thermalright True 120 are better at cooling.

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 11:05pm by SoumaKyou
#13 Feb 18 2011 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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90c is only at 100% load on prime95, on FFXIV there at 62c
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#14 Feb 18 2011 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
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SoumaKyou wrote:
95-100% GPU usage is ideal. It means you're getting full use out of your GPU and not being bottlenecked. Just make sure you're not overheating.

90c on a CPU is pretty high. i7's can take a lot of heat, but 90c is way too high. I'd aim for maybe 70c load at most. Anything higher just means you're shortening your CPU's life span. The H50 isn't a true liquid cooling system. High end air cooling systems like the Thermalright True 120 are better at cooling.

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 11:05pm by SoumaKyou


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90c is only at 100% load on prime95, on FFXIV there at 62c

Agreed, 90c on a CPU is not good or ideal, especially with a possible liquid cooled system. It seems like you have an issue with how the cooler is seated on the CPU. Something is not connecting fully, check the thermal paste.

Also, Like all the posters have stated, running >90% on GPU is good, mine (GTX 480) runs > 95% at all times with FFXIV, and I have a Q9550 and a resolution of 3840x1020 with a matrox triple head. (three 22" screens) [and can run a max of 5040x1050 <-- with less framerates of course]
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#15 Feb 18 2011 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm problem is im not good with pc's i had microcenter upgrade mine for me lol
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#16 Feb 18 2011 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm problem is im not good with pc's i had microcenter upgrade mine for me lol


You might want to call them and see if they will reseat it. Tell them your problem and they should, or have someone that knows what they are doing to reseat it for you.
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#17 Feb 18 2011 at 11:22 PM Rating: Default
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Lol all I know is when I launch ff14 it runs for me and at pretty good fps even when in crowded areas I get a adverge of 50 fps but I am only running it at 1360x768 rez on my monitor too
#18 Feb 19 2011 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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99% GPU means that your GPU isn't being held back and is using it's full power for the game. It's both good and bad.

It's good in the sense that you're getting the most out of your GPU and can play the game at its potential highest settings [for that GPU].

It's bad in the sense that nothing is ever good if it's running full load for hours and hours. If your car has a top speed of 120 mph, is it a good thing for your engine if you're pushing 120 mph for 3 hours straight?

That's why I never have my game running so that my GPU is always pegged at 99%.

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#19 Feb 19 2011 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:
99% GPU means that your GPU isn't being held back and is using it's full power for the game. It's both good and bad.

It's good in the sense that you're getting the most out of your GPU and can play the game at its potential highest settings [for that GPU].

It's bad in the sense that nothing is ever good if it's running full load for hours and hours. If your car has a top speed of 120 mph, is it a good thing for your engine if you're pushing 120 mph for 3 hours straight?

That's why I never have my game running so that my GPU is always pegged at 99%.

Edited, Feb 19th 2011 12:55am by Threx


I can see your point, but if you GPU has a lifetime warranty and costs over $500 USD, then why not run at a constant 99%?

Anyway, when I state that mine runs at >95, that is during high load. I personally do not game for hours on end, so it gets a break. But then again, mine is O/C'd to just under where I need water cooling...
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Having a warranty is always good, of course. But that's besides the point. ;P

But yeah, my GTX 460 is also overclocked a lot (was from 900 to 980 core clock, and that's the max I could go without going water). But currently I have it at 940 since 980 means cranking up the fan pretty high and it gets too loud (the Sonic Platinum has an exceptionally loud fan). And it does go up to 99% usage as well, but only in certain areas. It's not pegged at 99% all the time. :)

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#21 Feb 19 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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pretty sure i figured out the problem, the liquid cooling is seated properly its just my casing wasnt made for an i7 theres only one fan besides the liquid cooling for my pc. i do remember microcenter questioning my case and recommending me to get a new one for better airflow.
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#22 Feb 19 2011 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Threx wrote:

Having a warranty is always good, of course. But that's besides the point. ;P

But yeah, my GTX 460 is also overclocked a lot (was from 900 to 980 core clock, and that's the max I could go without going water). But currently I have it at 940 since 980 means cranking up the fan pretty high and it gets too loud (the Sonic Platinum has an exceptionally loud fan). And it does go up to 99% usage as well, but only in certain areas. It's not pegged at 99% all the time. :)



Yeah, I know. But I agree with you, and it is only in certain areas (*cough Ul'Dah in a wind storm)

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pretty sure i figured out the problem, the liquid cooling is seated properly its just my casing wasnt made for an i7 theres only one fan besides the liquid cooling for my pc. i do remember microcenter questioning my case and recommending me to get a new one for better airflow.


Then you do not have a true liquid cooled system. If that is a true liquid cooled chip, then you should never see those temps, unless the radiator for the liquid is not getting cooled.'
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#23 Feb 19 2011 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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yea the corsair H50 is not a true liquid cooling device
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#24 Feb 19 2011 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm not a tech guy, but if my graphics cards were running at 99 percent, I'd consider that a good thing because only 1 percent of the money I'd spent on them would be wasted!
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#25 Feb 19 2011 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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Threx wrote:
It's bad in the sense that nothing is ever good if it's running full load for hours and hours. If your car has a top speed of 120 mph, is it a good thing for your engine if you're pushing 120 mph for 3 hours straight?

That's why I never have my game running so that my GPU is always pegged at 99%.

Edited, Feb 19th 2011 12:55am by Threx


Ah okay, when people said it was a good thing, I was like: "Huh? O.o Was my logic wrong? I thought it was never good to run at near max, what about the strain it put on your system?"

But yeah, thanks for clearing that up.
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#26 Feb 19 2011 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
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yea the corsair H50 is not a true liquid cooling device

ahh, looked up the cooler. Yes, you do need to have some airflow for this cooler to work, however, you should not still be seeing temps that high as liquid has better thermal conductivity versus air. But, if it is as you say, and with the graphics card, then you will see those temps. If you can, at the moment, take off the side of the case should lower your temps until you can get a new case.

I am not an expert with that particular cooler, but maybe a premium air cooler would be more effective??
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#27 Feb 19 2011 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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99% GPU use is good. It means the game is successfully offloading as much graphics work to the GPU as it can, and less potential software rendering (which is slow and bad). Now if you are experiencing low frame rates and a laggy game experience (minus laggy internet connections), you may need up upgrade your graphics card, add more RAM, or get a better CPU processor. Those three things are usually the main things you want to look at (plus possibly the motherboard to support a new CPU).
#28 Feb 19 2011 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
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well i figured it out, i seemed to have overlooked it before but my fans were set to there lowest setting i upped those and it took my cpu temps down to 38c idle mid 40s to 50s on XIV and 70c on 100% load
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#29 Feb 19 2011 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
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shady113 wrote:
well i figured it out, i seemed to have overlooked it before but my fans were set to there lowest setting i upped those and it took my cpu temps down to 38c idle mid 40s to 50s on XIV and 70c on 100% load


That looks much better. I'm glad that you found the problem...
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