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#1 Feb 20 2011 at 9:14 PM Rating: Default
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Where do people usually group together for behest?

on my server i see a lot people do behest on bloodshore and cedarwood.

Also anyone can tell me if i go to a level 40 area as a level 20 to do a behest there, will i get a lot SP just as i get 1000sp per kill as a level 9 @ bloodshore behest?

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 10:18pm by wrongfeifong
#2 Feb 20 2011 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
As it stands, the Thanalan region and La Noscea seem to be the most popular.

If you go to a Rank 40 behest as a rank 20, prepare to get yelled at/kicked out of the party.
#3 Feb 20 2011 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
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what are the camps call @ thalan? or do people go to those gate crystal ?

thanks. I am pretty sure they won't kick a healer @least? Beside i would do the same for lower level as long it doesn't go over 8 players.

Who don't want more SP bonus anyway XD

also where are the level 50 camps?

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 10:38pm by wrongfeifong
#4 Feb 20 2011 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good
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wrongfeifong wrote:
what are the camps call @ thalan? or do people go to those gate crystal ?

thanks. I am pretty sure they won't kick a healer @least? Beside i would do the same for lower level as long it doesn't go over 8 players.

Who don't want more SP bonus anyway XD

also where are the level 50 camps?

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 10:38pm by wrongfeifong


This would not be the case. By entering a behest as a rank 20 character while everyone else is around rank 40, you are severely reducing their potential sp gain. You are benefiting no one, not even yourself, and everyone at the camp will hate and despise you for it. Odds are, you will be kicked out of the party, and if you try to claim a mob, it would take you so long to fight it, it wouldn't be worth it, and it would likely kill you.

Fight things near your own level. There's no easy way to quickly get to a high rank, but it doesn't take that long anyway.

Edit: In Thanalan at least, I see people around Rank 48 still doing leve-linked leves at Camp Broken Water (a R40 camp). According to ffxiv.yg.com, even the R50 leves (which all seem to be faction leves) are at Camp Broken Water.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 10:46pm by esque
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#5 Feb 20 2011 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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Healers in a full behest party are pretty much useless because the mobs get zerged so quickly.

Their are many people that wish they would be a level limit to join behest because of situations like the one you have mentioned. As of now i am not under the impression that this would be officially an exploit. But in my opinion it seems like sidestepping the system to get an unfair SP/EXP boost. When I am Leading behest parties I boot for levels being excessively high or low for that particular area (regardless of class). I also boot if people repetitively ignore request to stop attacking mobs who's names are not red or stop using AOE abilities in crowded areas.
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#6 Feb 20 2011 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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wrongfeifong wrote:
Where do people usually group together for behest?

on my server i see a lot people do behest on bloodshore and cedarwood.

Also anyone can tell me if i go to a level 40 area as a level 20 to do a behest there, will i get a lot SP just as i get 1000sp per kill as a level 9 @ bloodshore behest?

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 10:18pm by wrongfeifong


Why would you do this, seems a poor way to level. Quick way to make enemies in the game. Personally, I would never bring down the other members in the party like this.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 10:52pm by River75
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#7wrongfeifong, Posted: Feb 20 2011 at 9:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) trust me everyone is doing it, i literately soloed 3 behest when 3-4 members are level 10ish @ bloodshore. I didn't mind, i still get 200-300 sp which i normally get even these memebers are here @ level 10. The worse cases was they just keep dying and i have to wait for them to come back before i move on.
#8 Feb 20 2011 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
wrongfeifong wrote:
trust me everyone is doing it, i literately soloed 3 behest when 3-4 members are level 10ish @ bloodshore. I didn't mind, i still get 200-300 sp which i normally get even these memebers are here @ level 10. The worse cases was they just keep dying and i have to wait for them to come back before i move on.

Might as well try. It seem to me that in behest, high level will get the same SP as long you are within the level of the monster, the only one effect is you who joined.

same as party sp, the lower level will get scaled anyway.

The game is horrible limiting how to level. i only get 1000 sp per leve soling. @ this rate, it takes 1 week to get 1 level without behest.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 11:00pm by wrongfeifong


Not sure what level you are, but I can guarantee I can get 1 rank on any class between ranks 1 and 40 in one day. All it takes is some dedication and a good grinding spot. (Or for crafting, enough synthesis materials.)

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 11:03pm by StateAlchemist2
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#9 Feb 20 2011 at 10:04 PM Rating: Good
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wrongfeifong wrote:
trust me everyone is doing it, i literately soloed 3 behest when 3-4 members are level 10ish @ bloodshore. I didn't mind, i still get 200-300 sp which i normally get even these memebers are here @ level 10. The worse cases was they just keep dying and i have to wait for them to come back before i move on.

Might as well try. It seem to me that in behest, high level will get the same SP as long you are within the level of the monster, the only one effect is you who joined.

same as party sp, the lower level will get scaled anyway.

The game is horrible limiting how to level. i only get 1000 sp per leve soling. @ this rate, it takes 1 week to get 1 level without behest.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 11:00pm by wrongfeifong


Nope, having a player outside of your level range (-10/+5) means no bonus SP. For example rather than getting same SP still for duoing, you get half of the SP.

And I'm very much in doubt you only get 1000 sp per leve soloing. From r30-50 I can always get close to 2k SP minimum on soloing leves, without Guardian Aspect. Could push for more SP with higher rank + Aspect but I just want to finish them quickly.

If you're talking about grinding, I still got 200+ SP per kill at r49 on Quartz Doblyn and Birds on the East side of Thanalan (near Cactuar Basin), or bored enough to solo Raptor at Boulder Down for 300+ SP a kill.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 11:07pm by Khornette
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#10 Feb 20 2011 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
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i don't have that dedication, i guess. It is hard enough to survive as a conjurer in soloing.

I am only 26 with 750 hp, every bloodly monster out there have a super attack hit for 300-500, not to mention grinding doesn't work too well with a conjurer even with siphon MP.

These leve are really giving me 1000 sp, and some of the longer one, i fail them to repeat.

For example, i got the sheep one kill 8 sheeps + 2 goat, each sheep give me 78sp and the 2 goats give me 400 sp total.


Guess i will just get people to leve link.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 11:15pm by wrongfeifong
#11 Feb 20 2011 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
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i don't have that dedication, i guess. It is hard enough to survive as a conjurer in soloing.

I am only 26 with 750 hp, every bloodly monster out there have a super attack hit for 300-500, not to mention grinding doesn't work too well with a conjurer even with siphon MP.

These leve are really giving me 1000 sp, and some of the longer one, i fail them to repeat.

For example, i got the sheep one kill 8 sheeps + 2 goat, each sheep give me 78sp and the 2 goats give me 400 sp total.


Guess i will just get people to leve link.

Edited, Feb 20th 2011 11:15pm by wrongfeifong


what rank leves are you doing? you should be able to solo r30 leves on conjurer. (1 star of course but still) have you even leveled thm up to get stygen spikes/siphon mp/punishing barbs? If your only getting 1k sp you must be doing some r20s on 1 star, or some rank 10s. try doing harder leves.
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#12 Feb 20 2011 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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Are you still doing leves at R20 Camp? I moved to R30 Camp ASAP when I reach r23/24, I still solo my ARC in Nophica's Well here and there at r30-33 and I got 150-250 SP per kill in leve (2-3 stars).
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#13 Feb 20 2011 at 10:23 PM Rating: Default
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no i am doing behest @ cedarwood mostly, I am keeping the 2 super long leves to reset fail while i do the rest.

I just don't feel like running the leves any longer when i can just spend remainer of the 45 min per hour doing some work/playing some other games to just do 1-2 leve for 1000sp per.

the super long leves net 3-4k sp but extremely hard, especially those gnat hit me for 150 dmg per gnat + a 350-450 instant lighting strike that is very hard to dodge, i die every 2-3 pairs.

I wish i can find people to leve-link, my server seem dead already.
#14 Feb 20 2011 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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I know that my wife and I always try to help others out when we are online. We duo together most of the time and that helps us level. However, in addition, we do solo from time to time.
The problem that I see here is that some want to jump on the backs of others to quickly raise their levels, which seems like an exploit.
Granted, we do not have much experience with the behest, and last time I joined one it seemed like a disorganized mess, and therefore we try and stay away. Now that we are starting to get higher in ranks, this may become an option, but if ppl are joining that will tie you down, then why join.

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Edited, Feb 21st 2011 12:32am by River75
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#15 Feb 20 2011 at 11:13 PM Rating: Default
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i just can't be a jerk and kick these people off.

Behest wise, the one i can solo only give 350 sp per kill, there is more monster with more people joining. It really even out.

If i get 10 monster with 350 sp, and 30 monster with 4 players getting 200 sp. I am making myself better here.

exploit or not, it really doesn't matter when everyone just want to met their goals while not at the expense of others.
#16 Feb 20 2011 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
wrongfeifong wrote:
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I am making myself better here.
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This is the problem I see here is that you are using the words "I" and "myself". Where is the regard to others?? If the goal of a MMO is a social one, then are you not alienating yourself?? Maybe being new to this type of MMO myself puts me at a disadvantage, but I do not see the point to the discussion.
If someone lets you in a party with the intention of assisting you, then I see no problem, but if you join a party with only yourself in mind, and not really caring about the others, then your are of no benifit to them and should be kicked.

Edited, Feb 21st 2011 12:42am by River75
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