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What potential content for Feb Update is most exciting?Follow

#1 Feb 22 2011 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm excited most about quest content, but really anything would be a welcome addition.

What is most exciting to you about the Naoki Yoshida's Feb content update?
#2 Feb 22 2011 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Early March really.

And all that we know will be in it for sure are quests >____>

So, I'm excited about the quest content myself.
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#3 Feb 22 2011 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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You mean March...right?
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#4 Feb 22 2011 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought he promised one content update per month back in January. There has been no content update for February, so there should be one more update this month.
#5 Feb 22 2011 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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He said they'll implement something roughly twice a month. Sorry, mate.

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#6 Feb 22 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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****, I thought Naoki Yoshida was going to accelerate the content update schedule.
#7 Feb 22 2011 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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Yep, from one patch per 3 months to one large and one small patch per month.

It really isn't that much longer wait though lol, February ends next week.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2011 8:39pm by Hyanmen
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#8 Feb 22 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, so the "content update" could something as small as exp tweaking and hotfixes? I'll probably just wait until the PS3 release, I can't take this **** anymore.
#9 Feb 22 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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That's what he said back in January, and he has never talked about "content updates", only version updates and recently, patches.

Don't get hyped up over falsely perceived information and you won't be disappointed.
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#10 Feb 22 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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I understand your point, but game is in critical condition and the only content since release has been repeatable NM leves and bells? I love SE and FF, but I'm done for the time being.
#11 Feb 22 2011 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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Actualy, what was said was the following

We would be getting 2 updates a month
Content would start flowing in roughly at the end of February

By the sounds of it, the tool they are going to use for content/quests is now in place and they are working on it, its just a bit behind, so id expect to see quests and such next update, a bit at a time, over a long period of time
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#12 Feb 22 2011 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
content now...

I'd still pay for the game, I've always said I'd pay for a full year before throwing in the towel. However there's still a communication barrier. While I greatly appreciate the current level of communication, sometimes it's like how Osama BinLaden makes statements vaguely about current events a few weeks late, just to prove the US hasn't killed him yet. Half the time you might as well be using a Nostradamus telling, your brain will make it fit the situation. As we all recently did with this last "hotfix" and "security update". They need to see what the community is saying about these things and INSTANTLY "Hey, sorry guys for the confusion the event today isn't the patch we were speaking of. Hold tight a few more days".

If anything, not charging for the game is having an effect as well. Look at people taking advantage on holiday event items... they wouldn't be as likely first to market without a full bar of alts. (Don't get me wrong I was selling Kabutos for 1M because they sold, but people asking for a discount on the craft materials recieved them at cost +10%) If they were charging, even say $5 a month ATM it would all but eliminate the people ******** with the market with the help of alts. Right now I can craft up 3 stacks of 9999 shards per alt, and all but control the market. I don't, I don't have the time to, but nothing would disuade me from doing so on any item if i had the time. So in a wierd way I'm looking forward to a monthly fee.

(and those griping about bells, at least this one added snowing flower petals and random tree crud... I don't consider holidays content either. It's an added immersion factor, and while gifts are nice... well they aren't quests unless they involve quests)
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#13 Feb 22 2011 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Vedis wrote:
Actualy, what was said was the following

We would be getting 2 updates a month


Can someone point me to this...?
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#14 Feb 22 2011 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Honestly, I don't expect a whole lot during the first phase of an MMORPG. I am spending my time farming HQ mats I need to my top tier weapons etc, and getting all mu jobs/subs up to where I want them for my build!

Add the fact of scrubbing a bunch of potential patches and developers ... I am giving it time again.

I would be really stretched if I was tying to do that and juggle time with my LS running new content. 2-3 NM runs a week is already stretching it.
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#15 Feb 22 2011 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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Can someone point me to this...?


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At present, we intend for something new to be released about twice a month. The small-scale, system-oriented updates that will be carried out can best be thought of as the necessary groundwork for the battle system revisions.


In hindsight, pretty self-explanatory.
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#16 Feb 22 2011 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Exactly. Not only that, but he said that the next few patches would just be setting the groundwork. I expect to start seeing content released twice a month starting in march.

****, Yoshida has even stated that the next patch we get will begin implementing new quests.
#17 Feb 22 2011 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I expect to start seeing content released twice a month starting in march.


I don't think any content will be implemented in the small-scale, system side patches. Once a month.
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
content now...

I'd still pay for the game, I've always said I'd pay for a full year before throwing in the towel. However there's still a communication barrier. While I greatly appreciate the current level of communication, sometimes it's like how Osama BinLaden makes statements vaguely about current events a few weeks late, just to prove the US hasn't killed him yet. Half the time you might as well be using a Nostradamus telling, your brain will make it fit the situation. As we all recently did with this last "hotfix" and "security update". They need to see what the community is saying about these things and INSTANTLY "Hey, sorry guys for the confusion the event today isn't the patch we were speaking of. Hold tight a few more days".

If anything, not charging for the game is having an effect as well. Look at people taking advantage on holiday event items... they wouldn't be as likely first to market without a full bar of alts. (Don't get me wrong I was selling Kabutos for 1M because they sold, but people asking for a discount on the craft materials recieved them at cost +10%) If they were charging, even say $5 a month ATM it would all but eliminate the people ******** with the market with the help of alts. Right now I can craft up 3 stacks of 9999 shards per alt, and all but control the market. I don't, I don't have the time to, but nothing would disuade me from doing so on any item if i had the time. So in a wierd way I'm looking forward to a monthly fee.

(and those griping about bells, at least this one added snowing flower petals and random tree crud... I don't consider holidays content either. It's an added immersion factor, and while gifts are nice... well they aren't quests unless they involve quests)


This is exactly the kind of behavior I was trying to point out in my forum post earlier.
The only thing we can know for certain at this point that 9 times out of 10 whatever you think you know about SE's next move has at least 15 different interpretations and it's likely that none of 'em will prove to be right.


Unless you call bell items that are small tga pics content then I'd say we have seen very little of anything in the big February content patch.
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Hyanmen wrote:
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Can someone point me to this...?


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At present, we intend for something new to be released about twice a month. The small-scale, system-oriented updates that will be carried out can best be thought of as the necessary groundwork for the battle system revisions.


In hindsight, pretty self-explanatory.


If we get any more patches this month I will be pleasantly surprised, but I sure don't expect another until March. We had a fairly robust patch early in the month with enhancements to gameplay, and we had the start of Little Ladies Day at the same time as the bug fix/nerf patch.
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#20 Feb 22 2011 at 3:24 PM Rating: Default
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Vedis wrote:
Content would start flowing in roughly at the end of February


Let's look at what Yoshi actually said:

Yoshida wrote:
...we will be bringing quests and miniquests to Eorzea sometime after the beginning of February.


So what he did, was hint that we would get it in the first half of February. He might not have been lying, but he has been leading us on and that's not cool.


Edited, Feb 22nd 2011 5:02pm by Mugamaga
#21 Feb 22 2011 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Mugamaga wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Content would start flowing in roughly at the end of February


Let's look at what Yoshi actually said:

Yoshida wrote:
...we will be bringing quests and miniquests to Eorzea sometime after the beginning of February.


So what he did, was hint that we would get it in the first half of February. He might now have been lying, but he has been leading us on and that's not cool.


1) Is it after the begining of February? yes
2) does it say when after? No

now granted we all expected it no....but ever think that a snag may have delayed it by a single update? i wouldnt call that lying.
theres an interview recently where he spoke about "how" they will be doing it and by the sounds of it, the tool to do it is now in place and itl be coming shortly

so my statement still holds very true.....there has been no lie yet, only a small delay
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Vedis wrote:
1) Is it after the begining of February? yes
2) does it say when after? No

now granted we all expected it no....but ever think that a snag may have delayed it by a single update? i wouldnt call that lying.


I edited my post. I noticed a typo. Hopefully it makes more sense to you now.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2011 5:03pm by Mugamaga
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I am very excited about quests being introduced. However I think that quests will exist only to help immerse you in the world and will offer little to no SP/XP rewards for completion. I think if this turns out to be the case, we may see some upset players.
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I am very excited about quests being introduced. However I think that quests will exist only to help immerse you in the world and will offer little to no SP/XP rewards for completion. I think if this turns out to be the case, we may see some upset players.


I'm fairly confident most people would be ok with that.
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Mugamaga wrote:
CannonDub wrote:
I am very excited about quests being introduced. However I think that quests will exist only to help immerse you in the world and will offer little to no SP/XP rewards for completion. I think if this turns out to be the case, we may see some upset players.


I'm fairly confident most people would be ok with that.


Sure. The ones still playing.

The ones on the fence, unsure whether to come back or even pick up the game at all? Not so much.
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Sure. The ones still playing.

The ones on the fence, unsure whether to come back or even pick up the game at all? Not so much.


We already have good alternatives for SP/EXP, so I'm not sure why people would expect that as a reward for quests anyway. If anything we'll probably get a decent amount of gil a la the main storyline quests, and frankly that's all we can expect at this point. Personally, I don't care that much about the rewards right now. It's a reward in itself for me to feel that Eorzea is actually alive and not just the hollow world it feels like now.
#27 Feb 22 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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I think the details are right in front of us.

Content will be coming but it's going to be slowly introduced. IF they win back customers thats all good and great. But the over all plan really seems to be Re-vamp the game at whatever cost for the PS3 release.

That's really the games only saving grace now. Bring in the content and changes that make it more of a "Game" and re-market to the console crowd.

Basically everything we're waiting for will be added in there over the course of time till the PS3 version gets released.

I wager once they announce the release date for the PS3 version again, that's when they'll charge monthly.
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Mugamaga wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Content would start flowing in roughly at the end of February


Let's look at what Yoshi actually said:

Yoshida wrote:
...we will be bringing quests and miniquests to Eorzea sometime after the beginning of February.


So what he did, was hint that we would get it in the first half of February. He might not have been lying, but he has been leading us on and that's not cool.


Edited, Feb 22nd 2011 5:02pm by Mugamaga


To me its sounds like "sometime after the beginning of February" means that it can be in February that we get content or between then and eternity. :P I'm sure he meant soon after, he probably had a fairly good assessment of the work load and how it was coming along and he thought February was a good time to say we get content...I'd say early March would uphold his promise pretty well and I'd imagine early March we'll be getting quests but I doubt they'll be a lot.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2011 10:52pm by SolidMack
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SolidMack wrote:
Mugamaga wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Content would start flowing in roughly at the end of February


Let's look at what Yoshi actually said:

Yoshida wrote:
...we will be bringing quests and miniquests to Eorzea sometime after the beginning of February.


So what he did, was hint that we would get it in the first half of February. He might not have been lying, but he has been leading us on and that's not cool.


Edited, Feb 22nd 2011 5:02pm by Mugamaga


To me its sounds like "sometime after the beginning of February" means that it can be in February that we get content or between then the eternity. :P I'm sure he meant soon after, he probably had a fairly good assessment of the work load and how it was coming along and he thought February was a good time to say we get content...I'd say early March would uphold his promise pretty well and I'd imagine early March we'll be getting quests but I doubt they'll be a lot.


it probly wont be alot to start

what was said is basicaly they can do 1 of 2 things

1) save all the quests for 1 big update
2) release them as they finish them so we have a little more to do each update

guess which one they are going with? thats right #2
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The player base is his Tiger Cod's

Don't buy into his smooth talking and Wise choice of predetermined words, other wise he'll Jig you then turn you into Wind Shards, after all he'll need a lot of em to continue crafting empty promises. Or he might throw you back, only to continue the cycle once more
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I am worried that the content is just going to suck. I really hope we will get some unique side quests that offer cool rewards like rare items,gear,skills, or something, but i have a feeling we will just run from 1 npc to the other just for some materials to make gear. But then we will need lv 40-50 in multiple crafts just to make the gears. I hope i am wrong so much, but i can't help but feel this is what we will be getting for the quest content. And then its basically just the bell events again. TBH i dont even know what kind of quests they can add that wont suck with the current state of the game(battle system, undefined class roles, etc etc etc). **** you SE why can't you be the squaresoft i grew up with and put my mind to rest. *Haven't trusted these guys since FFX-2*

Anyway on topic.. I am looking forward to the addition of companies personally. I hope those come asap, because that seems like one of the truly innovative ideas in this game.
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So... noone is ****** off because we won't get anything by the end of February? seriously??
Come on guys, I myself used to stand up for SE no matter what, but this is really enough.
Since September with been told so many things and we've always end up disappointed.

In November they told as we would have had Companies and Hamlet on the first 2011 patch and it didn't happen (ok, it was Tanaka's plan, but since he said that in november the development must have been at a good stage... and we know they didn't scrap the idea since they still tell us we are gonna get them at some point.)
They said we were gonna have 2 updates a month, what we got was one update and a ninja hotfix patch.
They said we were gonna have more contents after the beginning of February and it's still not going to happen... and don't try to fool yourself saying "it's still after the beginning of February", even Jenuary 3000 is after the beginning of February, but we all know what it means >.> and don't even try to say they've still got 1 week, we know it's not gonna happen.

Now what? they gave us a schedule (again) do we have to belive they're gonna follow it this time?
Don't get me wrong, I actually have fun playing the game now, but i really feel like SE is making fun of us. They can't put the hype on us and then just pretend they did nothing.
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#33 Feb 22 2011 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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So... noone is ****** off because we won't get anything by the end of February? seriously??
Come on guys, I myself used to stand up for SE no matter what, but this is really enough.
Since September with been told so many things and we've always end up disappointed.

In November they told as we would have had Companies and Hamlet on the first 2011 patch and it didn't happen (ok, it was Tanaka's plan, but since he said that in november the development must have been at a good stage... and we know they didn't scrap the idea since they still tell us we are gonna get them at some point.)
They said we were gonna have 2 updates a month, what we got was one update and a ninja hotfix patch.
They said we were gonna have more contents after the beginning of February and it's still not going to happen... and don't try to fool yourself saying "it's still after the beginning of February", even Jenuary 3000 is after the beginning of February, but we all know what it means >.> and don't even try to say they've still got 1 week, we know it's not gonna happen.

Now what? they gave us a schedule (again) do we have to belive they're gonna follow it this time?
Don't get me wrong, I actually have fun playing the game now, but i really feel like SE is making fun of us. They can't put the hype on us and then just pretend they did nothing.



you sir, misread several of the things that were said

1st off, the "early 2011" patch did not mean 1st patch of 2011, thats you mistranslating it
2 updates a month means 2 updates a month, not "fixes dont count so we only got 1"
they said we would get content starting shortly after the begining of february, not "you get content in feb"

now i want everything added as much as the next person, but at least go with what was actualy said and not change the wording to be what you want it to be :)
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Vedis wrote:

you sir, misread several of the things that were said

1st off, the "early 2011" patch did not mean 1st patch of 2011, thats you mistranslating it
2 updates a month means 2 updates a month, not "fixes dont count so we only got 1"
they said we would get content starting shortly after the begining of february, not "you get content in feb"

now i want everything added as much as the next person, but at least go with what was actualy said and not change the wording to be what you want it to be :)


I'm sorry, but you're clearely trying to fool yourself into believing they're acting fine.

Yoshi-P said "1 patch about fixes at the game mechanics and 1 about contents per month" so the 1.15b is not the case and this is not something that can be discussed.
"After the beginning of February" still means February to EVERYONE, i dare anyone to say when you first read that line you thought we would be getting it in March!
I'm not dumb, I know what i've read on lodestone and I know it's not happening.
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Has anyone translated the Japanese letter or at least the part about the quests? Maybe something was lost in translation. I'll try to translate it (with my limited Japanese knowledge and Google translate) if no else does.
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There could still be an update next week on monday and 'technically' it would still be in February. I don't remember them giving us a lot of time other then 4 days of notice before they gave us maintenance notice on the first update this month. If there is no preview by Thursday for the coming patch, then its probably happening sometime in Early March instead. (in fact I just checked, they announced the February 2nd Maintenance which lead to the patch, on January 31st, not even 3 days before the actual patch.)

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/news/detail?newsId=57f16879605455a2c4acbcd76cfa70e9e19806a4

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They also just stealth patched in bunch of stuff in the lodestone from the last update that wasn't on the original agenda and was just recently added into the Producer Letter.

As for the ACTUAL topic at hand. I'm looking forward to Companies introduction the most. Just want to see what the ground work they are laying for what was originally supposed be an integral part of the game but never made it in by launch. Seriously, companies were one of the first things we heard about last year right before alpha started, and its taken them almost a year now to actual show them off. Not expecting a ton of content right away on it, but it would nice to get an 'idea' of where they likely are planning to take it. Companies are also supposedly tied to housing so if they release both at the same time along with a mail box I will have a ton of things to work on in this game outside of the simple leveling grind.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2011 12:53am by croythegreat
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If they release Musketeer(One of the classes found in .Dat mines) I'll cream my pants.
If they release more storyline quests I'll go YAY ACTUAL CONTENT.
If they add more audio dialogue cutscenes I'll go Yay, a game that feels like it came out in 2010.
If they add a viable and easily used Party find/search/Hay guyz im looking for a party(!), I'll finally have a way to meet/play with people outside of Behest

But really, I just want to shoot a gun (Yay musketeer)

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#38 Feb 23 2011 at 3:47 AM Rating: Decent
I have come to the conclusion that the first updates WAS the content update, you see we as a playerbase fundamentally have a different view to what SE says is 'content' so I beleive that the first update was the content update hopefully that means we might have some new quests, ui updates etc in the first March patch.
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it probly wont be alot to start

what was said is basicaly they can do 1 of 2 things

1) save all the quests for 1 big update
2) release them as they finish them so we have a little more to do each update

guess which one they are going with? thats right #2



It might suck, but from a business standpoint #2 is not recommended.
A few quests trickling in will not bring any of those waiting on the
fence back. And it will do little to keep the active playerbase
(which is worth no money atm). They have proven that they cannot
be killed off anyway.

If I was SE, I would release as little new stuff as absolutely necessary
until the PS3 launch, and then come forward with one huge, massive
booming, game-changing update. I believe they will not play their best
cards until they can play them all at once to turn the carriage around.
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If I was SE, I would release as little new stuff as absolutely necessary
until the PS3 launch, and then come forward with one huge, massive
booming, game-changing update. I believe they will not play their best
cards until they can play them all at once to turn the carriage around.


Then again, if they release stuff asap, they can see what works and what doesn't before they release the game on PS3, making the state of the game as good as it can be, basically using us as beta testers.
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I dont really care when the content patch will come (as long it WILL come) but they shouldnt string us along like some female dogs and saying that they will release content patches every month. I know they arent in the same position as blizzard who can say its done when its done lololo but if they create high expectations with the public in this phase, they should **** well keep them or else they should just be much more modest with their language and promises.
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