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#1 Feb 26 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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This is a continuation to my previous thread about my opinion is the right way to give SE support for the game: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=12987164215454254&page=1

I personally thank Osarion for giving me permission to to repost my proposition in a more civil and respectful way.



I was wondering... I'm now going to make the website, but who will join in exactly? Am I allowed to post the link in here?

Also, something very important, would I have to resort to grabbing ideas from my website and posting them in a suggestion box of a FFXIV forum? Or is there actually a way to create a direct connection to the developers?

I'm trying to get ideas that would make the website meaningful, purposeful, and conspicuous enough to be seen and heard from FFXIV loyal players all over the internet and in the game.

Thank you.

Edited, Feb 26th 2011 6:12pm by ViKtoricus
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#2 Feb 26 2011 at 5:08 PM Rating: Good
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that link is to the sarcasm thread
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#3 Feb 26 2011 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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that link is to the sarcasm thread


Oops. lol.

Edited. Thanks for the heads-up. That would've been really stupid.
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#4 Feb 27 2011 at 3:24 PM Rating: Default
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Just a reminder to everyone that we do not want a Final Fantasy game to end up like this: http://www.gameogre.com/deadmmorpgs.htm

The confirmation email for my website domain was delayed, but once it arrives, I'll start forming it into a FFXIV support base.
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If you want to run off and live in your own isolated community like a middle-class white family in the 50s, then by all means, don't let anyone stop you. It won't fix anything, but at least you'll feel better.
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#6 Feb 27 2011 at 4:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ignoring everything wrong with the game will make the game better. It's brilliant!

Someone needs to call congress and tell them that if they ignore everything wrong with the country, America will be perfect!
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#7 Feb 27 2011 at 4:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ignoring everything wrong with the game will make the game better. It's brilliant!

Someone needs to call congress and tell them that if they ignore everything wrong with the country, America will be perfect!


Don't they already do this??? hahaha
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Ignoring everything wrong with the game will make the game better. It's brilliant!

Someone needs to call congress and tell them that if they ignore everything wrong with the country, America will be perfect!


Congress already does ignore everything wrong with the country lol.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Ignoring everything wrong with the game will make the game better. It's brilliant!

Someone needs to call congress and tell them that if they ignore everything wrong with the country, America will be perfect!


Congress already does ignore everything wrong with the country lol.


That's my point; look at the result :)
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#10 Feb 27 2011 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ignoring everything wrong with the game will make the game better. It's brilliant!

Someone needs to call congress and tell them that if they ignore everything wrong with the country, America will be perfect!
Are you Hannity?
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#11 Feb 27 2011 at 9:55 PM Rating: Excellent
At least he's going off to his own website so he can complain about people complaining somewhere else.
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Lubriderm the Fussy wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Ignoring everything wrong with the game will make the game better. It's brilliant!

Someone needs to call congress and tell them that if they ignore everything wrong with the country, America will be perfect!
Are you Hannity?


No, but I'd like his paycheck for the schtick.
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#14 Feb 28 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good
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Is this a FFXIV Cult? And are you the Cult leader? Are you brainwashing us?

Please give up on this idea right... ...now.

Google FFXIV see how many sites pop up. You'll be an ant drowning in the oceans, bud.

Best of wishes.

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P.S. Save the money on a domain and hire some strippers. Sounds kinda good for you.
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SplatterPattern wrote:
Is this a FFXIV Cult? And are you the Cult leader? Are you brainwashing us?

Please give up on this idea right... ...now.

Google FFXIV see how many sites pop up. You'll be an ant drowning in the oceans, bud.

Best of wishes.

Chow

P.S. Save the money on a domain and hire some strippers. Sounds kinda good for you.


Think and say as you please. This is not a cult. It is merely just another FF website that is a tidbit more "fanboyish/fangirlish" than the average FF website.
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It's still in its infancy. I'll be polishing it starting today...

http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/
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#17 Mar 01 2011 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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ViKtoricus wrote:
It's still in its infancy. I'll be polishing it starting today...

http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/

There's no forums, nothing to click on, you've got a picture of a chocobo you can't ride, it says FFFans but the website is clearly finanfantasygreatness.com, I don't know what "exploring the greatness of chocobos" means, your pics are from the two least popular titles in the FF franchise.

Still, it's got more content than FFXIV, so I'll hang around.
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yfaithfully wrote:
ViKtoricus wrote:
It's still in its infancy. I'll be polishing it starting today...

http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/

There's no forums, nothing to click on, you've got a picture of a chocobo you can't ride, it says FFFans but the website is clearly finanfantasygreatness.com, I don't know what "exploring the greatness of chocobos" means, your pics are from the two least popular titles in the FF franchise.

Still, it's got more content than FFXIV, so I'll hang around.


LOL. MEANIE MEANIE MEANIE.

And as far as the pictures, click the "About us" link. There's a picture of Cloud Strife in there.

And the reason I picked completely random FF images is because I want the website to be non-discrimatory. If I was making a website about the history of American presidents, will I exclude George Bush just because he is not the most liked president around?

I will also add some screenshot images from FFXI and FFXIV. I've decided to make it look more "General" instead of FFXIV-specific.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 10:08am by ViKtoricus
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#19 Mar 01 2011 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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ViKtoricus wrote:
It's still in its infancy. I'll be polishing it starting today...

http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/

There's no forums, nothing to click on, you've got a picture of a chocobo you can't ride, it says FFFans but the website is clearly finanfantasygreatness.com, I don't know what "exploring the greatness of chocobos" means, your pics are from the two least popular titles in the FF franchise.

Still, it's got more content than FFXIV, so I'll hang around.


Oh. Gotta wipe the tiny tear from my eye. Who knew hanging with the trolls could be so fun!

We should build our own bridge to hang out under. ;)
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I saw Cloud and Seifer and closed the webpage.
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#21 Mar 01 2011 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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You guys are all haters. I can't wait to explore and share the greatness of chocobos.
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You guys are all haters. I can't wait to explore and share the greatness of chocobos.


Oh God...

It wasn't meant to be dirty.
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ViKtoricus wrote:
yfaithfully wrote:
ViKtoricus wrote:
It's still in its infancy. I'll be polishing it starting today...

http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/

There's no forums, nothing to click on, you've got a picture of a chocobo you can't ride, it says FFFans but the website is clearly finanfantasygreatness.com, I don't know what "exploring the greatness of chocobos" means, your pics are from the two least popular titles in the FF franchise.

Still, it's got more content than FFXIV, so I'll hang around.


LOL. MEANIE MEANIE MEANIE.

And as far as the pictures, click the "About us" link. There's a picture of Cloud Strife in there.

And the reason I picked completely random FF images is because I want the website to be non-discrimatory. If I was making a website about the history of American presidents, will I exclude George Bush just because he is not the most liked president around?

I will also add some screenshot images from FFXI and FFXIV. I've decided to make it look more "General" instead of FFXIV-specific.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 10:08am by ViKtoricus


You should add a picture of George Bush in your Final Fantasy site because that's probably where he came from.
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http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

I recommend trying to ensure you have valid HTML/XHTML.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 3:16pm by Zenoxio
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Zenoxio wrote:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

I recommend trying to ensure you have valid HTML/XHTML.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 3:16pm by Zenoxio


What do you mean? Please elaborate.
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http://validator.w3.org/docs/why.html
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ViKtoricus wrote:
Zenoxio wrote:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.finalfantasygreatness.com/&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

I recommend trying to ensure you have valid HTML/XHTML.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 3:16pm by Zenoxio


What do you mean? Please elaborate.


He means make sure you have no errors in your markup: having errors forces the browser to guess, which can lead to funky and erroneous page layouts.

Also, it's 2011: tables are dead, and the font tag is super-dead. Use CSS for formatting and styling.
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It means you need to go out and buy the book: "HTML Programming 101 For FFXIV Dummies"

Edit:

Oh and from you website: BECOME ONE OF THEM AND LET'S ALL SUPPORT THE LEGACY OF FINAL FANTASY!

I think you chose the wrong word, bud, Final Fantasy isn't something from the past or dead. It's kicking pretty strong still.

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Oh god this is awful. I laughed, but I shouldn't have...
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It means you need to go out and buy the book: "HTML Programming 101 For FFXIV Dummies"


Has it been updated for HTML(5)?
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Oh and if you plan to add forums or anything like that with interaction, know what you're doing before opening it to the public. Or you're just asking to get exploited while knowing nothing about how to prevent or fix it.

*checks source*
<style type='text/css' media='print'></style><script type='text/javascript' src='http://assets.webservices.websitepros.com/javascript/com/web/ResourceLoader.js'></script> 


Oh I see.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 5:05pm by Zenoxio

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 5:06pm by Zenoxio
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????

??????????

I think I need to buy the HTML Programming for Dummies book. I am completely clueless...

I will be adding a blog page and an extensive forum. Videos and music will come in last but they will not be ignored.
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Poor fellah, he's making a home for trolls. :(
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Holy crap... This website designing thing is turning out to be much tougher than I ever thought it would be.

It reminds me of when I bought the Ragnarok CD, OFFLINE version where I actually discovered how to modify the game.

I cannot put through words how steep of a learning curve that was, but I did it, and it was tougher to figure out than quantum physics (maybe an exaggeration but you get what I mean.).
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Making a website is hard, making it filled with stuff that will make people want to bother with it is harder, keeping them there when you are competing with much bigger more popular websites is even harder. Have fun.
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LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of creating a website for useful stuff, u gonna creat yet another website to praise a game that is ---------------(put whatever u want here). good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get noble prize in peace for kissing SE *** even though they used u ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


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LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of creating a website for useful stuff, u gonna creat yet another website to praise a game that is ---------------(put whatever u want here). good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get noble prize in peace for kissing SE *** even though they used u ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


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LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of creating a website for useful stuff, u gonna creat yet another website to praise a game that is ---------------(put whatever u want here). good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get noble prize in peace for kissing SE *** even though they used u ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


----pwnd_ur_@$$------


LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


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[quote=Hugus][LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


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dude look at u got rank 41 armorer ,i think if u spent the amount of time to lvl ur charcter ,in real life u would have become a real armorer.btw at least i spend like 30 mins on forums laughing at retards like while u work ur way to become an "armorer" as if u gonna making stuff to ppl in RL .

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[quote=Hugus][LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


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dude look at u got rank 41 armorer ,i think if u spent the amount of time to lvl ur charcter ,in real life u would have become a real armorer.btw at least i spend like 30 mins on forums laughing at retards like while u work ur way to become an "armorer" as if u gonna making stuff to ppl in RL .



ROFL i like this man's line of thinking. I could've been a real life miner if i had spent more time mining IRL instead of in the game!
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pwndurass wrote:
[quote=Hugus][LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


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dude look at u got rank 41 armorer ,i think if u spent the amount of time to lvl ur charcter ,in real life u would have become a real armorer.btw at least i spend like 30 mins on forums laughing at retards like while u work ur way to become an "armorer" as if u gonna making stuff to ppl in RL .



You really think that "practicing" armourcfraft for 3 hours a day for 5 months makes you a real life armoursmith?

LOL

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Gotta say, I love that in that ****-storm of a post you picked out Nobel to correct. Gotta have standards.

Anyways, dude's a troll.
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Hugus wrote:
pwndurass wrote:
[quote=Hugus][LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


----pwnd_ur_@$$------[/qoute.]
dude look at u got rank 41 armorer ,i think if u spent the amount of time to lvl ur charcter ,in real life u would have become a real armorer.btw at least i spend like 30 mins on forums laughing at retards like while u work ur way to become an "armorer" as if u gonna making stuff to ppl in RL .



You really think that "practicing" armourcfraft for 3 hours a day for 5 months makes you a real life armoursmith?

LOL

PS: happy trolling

3hrs*5months*30days=450 hrs ,i dont think armorer crafting is rocket science so 450 hrs is enough. btw if u like my trolling too bad i am gonna leave u alone so enjoy ur "awsome" life as cyber armor crafter .ROFL

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pwndurass wrote:
[quote=Hugus][LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


----pwnd_ur_@$$------[/qoute.]
dude look at u got rank 41 armorer ,i think if u spent the amount of time to lvl ur charcter ,in real life u would have become a real armorer.btw at least i spend like 30 mins on forums laughing at retards like while u work ur way to become an "armorer" as if u gonna making stuff to ppl in RL .



You really think that "practicing" armourcfraft for 3 hours a day for 5 months makes you a real life armoursmith?

LOL

PS: happy trolling

3hrs*5months*30days=450 hrs ,i dont think armorer crafting is rocket science so 450 hrs is enough. btw if u like my trolling too bad i am gonna leave u alone so enjoy ur "awsome" life as cyber armor crafter .ROFL

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pwndurass wrote:
Hugus wrote:
pwndurass wrote:
[quote=Hugus][LOL it is always fun to see people do stupid things ,instead of working or studing, u gonna post yet another coment on a website to trash a game that you don't even enjoy/play. good for u it is really cool to see fanatics like u waste their lifes on $hit ,u r humanity saving grace i think u should get Nobel prize in peace for still be in a ZAM forum dedicated to FFXIV ,thank god we got ppl like u who r "INSIGHTFUL" and "BRIGHT" while we simple folk with simple tastes dont understand ur "SUPRIME" taste .


----pwnd_ur_@$$------[/qoute.]
dude look at u got rank 41 armorer ,i think if u spent the amount of time to lvl ur charcter ,in real life u would have become a real armorer.btw at least i spend like 30 mins on forums laughing at retards like while u work ur way to become an "armorer" as if u gonna making stuff to ppl in RL .



You really think that "practicing" armourcfraft for 3 hours a day for 5 months makes you a real life armoursmith?

LOL

PS: happy trolling

3hrs*5months*30days=450 hrs ,i dont think armorer crafting is rocket science so 450 hrs is enough. btw if u like my trolling too bad i am gonna leave u alone so enjoy ur "awsome" life as cyber armor crafter .ROFL

----pwnd_ur_@$$------


At least considering you love for FFXIV, it seems we are not going to see often your writing skills. Not going into the details, pretty self-explicit... It does not have to be a model of novel writing but please, some basic grammar and spelling wouldn't hurt.

/goodbye
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#48 Mar 02 2011 at 12:52 PM Rating: Excellent
Someone is having a hella fun time with this. First, a parody of FF fan to see who would bite. Then a website to give it authenticity.

Later, a further sock to troll upon his own paradoy. It's is getting thick in here. I feel like I'm watching a spy movie where there has been so many double-crosses that everyone is now on the same/opposite side at the same time.

In a final twist of irony, the OP may be forced to create/improve an actual FF fansite to prove that he is who he pretends to be. And that, in turn, will give the secondary sock something further to flame about. Fun fun. Keep up the good work!

Don't miss the next exciting episode!
#49 Mar 02 2011 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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SmashingtonWho wrote:
Someone is having a hella fun time with this. First, a parody of FF fan to see who would bite. Then a website to give it authenticity.

Later, a further sock to troll upon his own paradoy. It's is getting thick in here. I feel like I'm watching a spy movie where there has been so many double-crosses that everyone is now on the same/opposite side at the same time.

In a final twist of irony, the OP may be forced to create/improve an actual FF fansite to prove that he is who he pretends to be. And that, in turn, will give the secondary sock something further to flame about. Fun fun. Keep up the good work!

Don't miss the next exciting episode!

I thought he was a troll, but he must have actually paid to register that domain, right? It's not terribly expensive, sure ... but it's pretty far for a troll to go unless he has some huge personal grievance with someone here.
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#50 Mar 02 2011 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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preludes wrote:
Making a website is hard, making it filled with stuff that will make people want to bother with it is harder


Uhhhhhh Not if it comes in Blue.
#51 Mar 02 2011 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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I feel like you'd be better off making an Invision or ProBoard and just making a General section for you to do whatever you're doing. I'm sure its far cheaper.

EDIT: In fact, here's one.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/FFfans/index.php

I made it for you.
your Username is Viktorious, password is trollharder, and the email is viktorious@spam.la


Good hunting.

Edited, Mar 2nd 2011 2:47pm by levelxplane

Edited, Mar 2nd 2011 2:47pm by levelxplane
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