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#1 Mar 01 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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I think the original FFXIV team really want to give chocobo a different purpose then just plain mount.

But the players have shot it down. Dev will try again hard FF15! Chocobo won't be your mounts!


Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.

In FFXIV, we have anima, we have teleports, everyone can do it!, no more shouting for teleport-theine 1000gil on whitegate.

Yet, you people keep clinging on riding chocobo and when they finally give them to you, you will still just teleport, If Yoshi suddenly give you a choice, get either one but not both Chocobo vs teleport Which would you choose?

Let them retire already, Let the FFXIV team give chocobo a new job. So the cute fuzzy yellow bird will become part of our main team in FFXV.



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 1:05pm by wrongfeifong
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Sorry, if I had to choose, I would take Airships and chocos over limited teleport every day of the week.
Pay to go from town to town, but always be able to. Be able to hop on a choco and run from one camp to another, and avoid aggro (as long as you stay out of dungeons...).

And lets face it. Chocobo's, Cid, Airships, Boats, Moogles are Final Fantasy Staples. They are as much a part of the game as the words Final Fantasy. You might as well call it Secret of Mana online without them.
#4 Mar 01 2011 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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It really boggles me that airships and chocos weren't in the game at launch. Not because they would have provided a useful gameplay element (although they would have), but because these are, as rfokker notes, canonical, staple FF concepts. It feels like another example of the original FFXIV team trying to separate the game from its brand, being different just for the sake of it.
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rfolkker wrote:
And lets face it. Chocobo's, Cid, Airships, Boats, Moogles are Final Fantasy Staples. They are as much a part of the game as the words Final Fantasy. You might as well call it Secret of Mana online without them.


Don't forget Biggs and Wedge ^^ (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Biggs_and_Wedge)

I'm with you though, I'd give up this instant teleportation nonsense for traditional chocobo's and airships any day.
Sometimes I wonder if the anima teleport system is only temporary until chocobos, airships and such are implemented.
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It really boggles me that airships and chocos weren't in the game at launch. Not because they would have provided a useful gameplay element (although they would have), but because these are, as rfokker notes, canonical, staple FF concepts. It feels like another example of the original FFXIV team trying to separate the game from its brand, being different just for the sake of it.

I think it's more just another example of this game being very far from release-ready at launch.

Chocobos will appear in the expansion, I have no doubt about that, if they ever get it out.
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wrongfeifong wrote:
I think the original FFXIV team really want to give chocobo a different purpose then just plain mount.

But the players have shot it down. Dev will try again hard FF15! Chocobo won't be your mounts!


Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.

In FFXIV, we have anima, we have teleports, everyone can do it!, no more shouting for teleport-theine 1000gil on whitegate.

Yet, you people keep clinging on riding chocobo and when they finally give them to you, you will still just teleport, If Yoshi suddenly give you a choice, get either one but not both Chocobo vs teleport Which would you choose?

Let them retire already, Let the FFXIV team give chocobo a new job. So the cute fuzzy yellow bird will become part of our main team in FFXV.



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 1:05pm by wrongfeifong

Your avatar got thrown from a chocobo didn't it? Left you with some resentment towards the yellow chickens? I see.
#8 Mar 01 2011 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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rfolkker wrote:
You might as well call it Secret of Mana online without them.


I would play a Secret of Mana Online....


Many people in my LS spend quite a bit of time running between camps. Teleporting is a limited resource. If you are a more casual player, this isn't a problem because you have plenty of anima regenerating. But for folks that are playing everyday it's very easy to burn through your anima. If you were to do all the 8 local leves in Ul'dah and have to turn them in at various camps and then go do your battlecraft leves you could easily do the following..

Ul'dah->Black Brush = 4 anima
Black Brush->Horizon = 4 anima
Horizon->Drybone = 4 anima
Drybone->Halitali = 1 anima
Halitali->Broken Water = 2 anima (registered location)

That's 15 anima, which is not remotely sustainable pace. This is why people want mounts, so they can more quickly run between locations. Then I might do somehting like the following...start by changing favorite to DryBone. Also...a teleport needs to teleport me and my Chocobo.

Ul'dah->Black Brush = Ride Chocobo
Black Brush->Horizon = Ride Chocobo
Horizon->Drybone = 2 anima (registered location)
Drybone->Halitali = Ride Chocobo
Halitali->Broken Water = Ride Chocobo

Now I still have plenty of anima to tele to another city / region, or possibly even hop an airship if there is a nearby station and do some crafting onboard.
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You know what sucks. I've thought of this before but it just came to me again and I wanna leave it in this topic because topic is stupid anyway. What sucks is the fact that this game is completely built around guildleves. Everything leads you to more Aerthytes by linking certain crystals together (i.e., Black Brush to Nanawa), airships main use seems to be to get you, without the use of anima, from cities closer to camps, the way you progress in the game is from one camp to another camp to another camp, the party recruit system is even built around *only* making parties for levequests and behests mainly because storyline quests are so stale that its boring doing them solo, i'd imagine it'd be worse doing them in parties. Wow...***** Tanaka and his stupid old **** of a brain, I wish he was sacked much earlier and I honestly hope they stray away from guildleves (keep them because they're not bad but don't make them the central aspect of the **** game)...stupid stupid devs, no creativity in whoever came up with this idea and thought it was great.
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Just to let everyone know. In a recent interview, YoshiP mentioned that he and the development team are currently talking about how they can implement the choco's and airships. They'll be here before an expansion I would think.

Here's a thread from just a couple days ago with the full interview. There was one with a french fansite that has different questions, but I can't find that one at the moment.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1298835528284419364&page=1
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wrongfeifong wrote:
I think the original FFXIV team really want to give chocobo a different purpose then just plain mount.

But the players have shot it down. Dev will try again hard FF15! Chocobo won't be your mounts!


Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.

In FFXIV, we have anima, we have teleports, everyone can do it!, no more shouting for teleport-theine 1000gil on whitegate.

Yet, you people keep clinging on riding chocobo and when they finally give them to you, you will still just teleport, If Yoshi suddenly give you a choice, get either one but not both Chocobo vs teleport Which would you choose?

Let them retire already, Let the FFXIV team give chocobo a new job. So the cute fuzzy yellow bird will become part of our main team in FFXV.



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 1:05pm by wrongfeifong


Your point does not seem "ban chocobos from the game",but "give chocobos a more interesting role then just being mounts". Having chocobos back as a summon or the fat chocobo storage (maybe as a fancy rare retainer option?) or with some fresh new alternative (chocobo beastmen tribe o.O). I wouldn't mind seeying this happening at all, so rate back up ^^
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#12 Mar 01 2011 at 1:54 PM Rating: Default
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If I had the choice I'd flush the teleporting ability down the toilet that nobody would even remember it was ever in the game.

I'd do it even if the promise of chocobos was uncertain. The only thing I dislike more than teleporting is teleporting right after you die. It's like an insta reminder that nothing in this game has any consequences and thus all your actions are meaningless.

I hope the new purpose for chocos is to use them in battle. That would be something new and completely unexpected.
#13 Mar 01 2011 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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OP got pwned and (bad jokes) XD

Chocobos and Airship over animas.

Animas remove any sense of immersion and in many RPG you can teleport all over the world towards the end.

Why point out cars VS horses ?

Pointless post XD
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#14 Mar 01 2011 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm I have rode horses before o.o... They are fun :D. And even though we have anima, I would still like there to be chocobos :D, especially to get out to spots that does not have an aethyrite near it, or for those of us who have not gotten all the tele points yet. Besides..it just would not feel the same without our yellow feathered friends :D Kweh!!!
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RedGalka wrote:
wrongfeifong wrote:
I think the original FFXIV team really want to give chocobo a different purpose then just plain mount.

But the players have shot it down. Dev will try again hard FF15! Chocobo won't be your mounts!


Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.

In FFXIV, we have anima, we have teleports, everyone can do it!, no more shouting for teleport-theine 1000gil on whitegate.

Yet, you people keep clinging on riding chocobo and when they finally give them to you, you will still just teleport, If Yoshi suddenly give you a choice, get either one but not both Chocobo vs teleport Which would you choose?

Let them retire already, Let the FFXIV team give chocobo a new job. So the cute fuzzy yellow bird will become part of our main team in FFXV.



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 1:05pm by wrongfeifong


Your point does not seem "ban chocobos from the game",but "give chocobos a more interesting role then just being mounts". Having chocobos back as a summon or the fat chocobo storage (maybe as a fancy rare retainer option?) or with some fresh new alternative (chocobo beastmen tribe o.O). I wouldn't mind seeying this happening at all, so rate back up ^^


Hmmm, Fat Chocobo, and a Chocobo tribe... That would rock. What was it, Final Fantasy 4 where you had to go to the Chocobo forests and try and catch a chocobo to ride it, and hunt for the legendary fat chocobo around areas? That would be fun to see for our chocobo quests. Find the Fat chocobo and appease him to get permission to use a chocobo as a mount. And actually have some history and storyline to the chocobos (like they tried in a almost good way to do in 11... way late into the game).
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Is there something lower than sub default?
For the record I've ridden a horse, and there are thousands of people with horses here in Texas. Just not in the big cities really.

Even FFXIII had chocobos, they are iconic with the FFXIV brand. You don't think they could have invented other means of travel? Of course they have airships, and in FFXI they had teleports, but its iconic. Like having a Cid.

That's be like having Superman without the S on his suit. FF without chocos and airship is basically what you got on the Gameboy final fantasy legend. May have been a good game but would you consider it a final fantasy?

I think it'd be cool to see roaming chocobos that you could try to catch for single-rides (then they run away). That's something we didn't have in FFXI was actual capture.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 3:01pm by Eadieni
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#17 Mar 01 2011 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good

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OP All your threads put down some form of peoples' culture, be it Japan, Canada, etc. It is getting really tiring seeing this in almost every post/topic that you are in. Really, you need to get educated and stop!!

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Like others have said here, Chocobos and Airships are Final Fantasy. They are needed. Most all have said my thoughts.
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#18 Mar 01 2011 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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Kwek? That's no chocobo, it's a chocobo-duck cross.
#19 Mar 01 2011 at 2:11 PM Rating: Default
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I'm pretty sure the OP is Canadian.

And chocobos aren't that great. I mean really, you hit endgame, you're the ultimate warrior and you're running around on a horse bird? Why not just give players those old time bicycles with that one big wheel, or ponies?

Endgame mounts should be hovercraft or better.
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I really don't understand why we cant have teleports AND chocobos. Or why we can't have chocobo mounts AND other things. So far in FF you can raise them, breed them, race them, ride them, and fly on them. What else were they planning on doing with them? And why does that keep us from riding on them?
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wrongfeifong wrote:
Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.


Either this is a failed troll attempt, or you're functionally retarded.

Possibly both.
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#22 Mar 01 2011 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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wrongfeifong wrote:
Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.


Either this is a failed troll attempt, or you're functionally retarded.

Possibly both.



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#23 Mar 01 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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wrongfeifong wrote:
I think the original FFXIV team really want to give chocobo a different purpose then just plain mount.

But the players have shot it down. Dev will try again hard FF15! Chocobo won't be your mounts!


Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.

In FFXIV, we have anima, we have teleports, everyone can do it!, no more shouting for teleport-theine 1000gil on whitegate.

Yet, you people keep clinging on riding chocobo and when they finally give them to you, you will still just teleport, If Yoshi suddenly give you a choice, get either one but not both Chocobo vs teleport Which would you choose?

Let them retire already, Let the FFXIV team give chocobo a new job. So the cute fuzzy yellow bird will become part of our main team in FFXV.



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 1:05pm by wrongfeifong




Yes, horses are such rare and ...exotic... animals...

I've rode a horse, I guess you live in a box? Want me to cut some windows in it for you?
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Lol troll or not. I will still ride a choco if they offer them since I burn anima like Mega Flare.
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River75, Assassin Reject wrote:

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OP All your threads put down some form of peoples' culture, be it Japan, Canada, etc. It is getting really tiring seeing this in almost every post/topic that you are in. Really, you need to get educated and stop!!

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Like others have said here, Chocobos and Airships are Final Fantasy. They are needed. Most all have said my thoughts.


Yea i am canadian, don't you love to be the bad guy? Well you won't have the opportunity because this is my role.

A troll bring destructive and nonconstructive posts. But my role is to add some negative with different view, if there is no bad guy, there is no good guy.

Beside i never said "remove" chocobo from the game. I think you need more education to even take a guess. I never even claim that in any sentences. And the word "Quit" doesn't mean anything like remove, you can quit you job here and work in another similar job. What i want is to see chocobo have a better role then just being your average mount. If they become mounts, they would lose the opportunity to be other roles.

For example, if they become a mount, how would a fat chocobo be your storage? Wouldn't it be weird to be weird that the same species one have high intelligent while other doesn't?

Chocobo already have their roles in many cut scene. For example, they are pulling that carrier @ beginning of thalan cutscene, also they are in various cut scenes as mounts.

I want to see chocobo not as mount but as other things. For example, a companion. A storage chicken that pull a cart and follow you. The chicken pull carts for transportation. Or even a chocobo class where you can be a trainer for chocobo or ride them for attacks but not just plain mount.

I am one of those people who don't want FFXIV falling back into being FFXI. While i already spent 8 years in FFXI, i am not about to spend another 8 years in FFXIV playing an upgrade version of FFXI.

Whether rep up or down, i don't care. They might be mascots, but it is time FF series bring a change, use them for something else.

Chocobo power generator would be nice.

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P.S FYI, i don't put down cultures, i don't like belong to one culture, i emerge into many cultures myself. I am only giving you the differences i observe as a foreigner. I lived in more then 5 different cultures for at least 3-5 years in more then 5 different location/country in the world. The way i see people is different then someone who live in one single culture all their life and only watching from the side line. Whether you accept my opinion is up to you. I am just wasting my time here whether i am bored. If you ever watch a CG cartoon call Antz. Ants will always trust their queen, there is not doubt of their trust because there is no need to mis-trust. But when your role switch, you will see another world different from yours (in that movie, a worker end become a soldier ant).



Edited, Mar 1st 2011 10:24pm by wrongfeifong
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Remember what it was like when the first FFXIV trailer came out, and everyone started speculating that since the chocobo seemed to be wearing saddlebags they would function as a hybrid mode of transportation/mobile pack mule?

Those were the days...

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wrongfeifong wrote:

I want to see chocobo not as mount but as other things. For example, a companion. A storage chicken that pull a cart and follow you. The chicken pull carts for transportation. Or even a chocobo class where you can be a trainer for chocobo or ride them for attacks but not just plain mount

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 10:24pm by wrongfeifong

Yeah, it would be neat to have a chocobo function as other things than a mount to. Or what they could do is add various ways you could mount it. For instance, if you had a lot of money you could by a chariot and armor for your chocobo and have it haul you around.
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wrongfeifong wrote:

I want to see chocobo not as mount but as other things. For example, a companion. A storage chicken that pull a cart and follow you. The chicken pull carts for transportation. Or even a chocobo class where you can be a trainer for chocobo or ride them for attacks but not just plain mount

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 10:24pm by wrongfeifong

Yeah, it would be neat to have a chocobo function as other things than a mount to. Or what they could do is add various ways you could mount it. For instance, if you had a lot of money you could by a chariot and armor for your chocobo and have it haul you around.


I would rather buy a Mog and ride on it/let it hauls my chariot around. Or two, maybe three... And have a Chocobo House where the Chocobo keeps my stuff, a fat one. That gotta be the best innovation in years.
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XenoKrates wrote:
wrongfeifong wrote:

I want to see chocobo not as mount but as other things. For example, a companion. A storage chicken that pull a cart and follow you. The chicken pull carts for transportation. Or even a chocobo class where you can be a trainer for chocobo or ride them for attacks but not just plain mount

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 10:24pm by wrongfeifong

Yeah, it would be neat to have a chocobo function as other things than a mount to. Or what they could do is add various ways you could mount it. For instance, if you had a lot of money you could by a chariot and armor for your chocobo and have it haul you around.


I would rather buy a Mog and ride on it/let it hauls my chariot around. Or two, maybe three... And have a Chocobo House where the Chocobo keeps my stuff, a fat one. That gotta be the best innovation in years.

>_> I was just saying that I want accessories for my bird...
#32 Mar 01 2011 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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It really boggles me that airships and chocos weren't in the game at launch. Not because they would have provided a useful gameplay element (although they would have), but because these are, as rfokker notes, canonical, staple FF concepts. It feels like another example of the original FFXIV team trying to separate the game from its brand, being different just for the sake of it.


FFXI was my 1st MMO and I was quite retarded about it. It took me about 6 months to get to the point where I could attempt the quests for both Chocobo and Airships. I enjoyed my slow play immensely up to that point and didn't feel I was missing anything. I miss that aspect of XI where you had to do something to get anything. Sometimes those quests were quite involved and challenging. Even getting a map sometimes was difficult and fun. I hope they turn all these Final Fantasy classic ideas into part of the quests. I will be quite disappointed if they just hand it out to everyone.
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OP All your threads put down some form of peoples' culture, be it Japan, Canada, etc. It is getting really tiring seeing this in almost every post/topic that you are in. Really, you need to get educated and stop!!

END RANT

On Topic:

Like others have said here, Chocobos and Airships are Final Fantasy. They are needed. Most all have said my thoughts.


Yea i am canadian, don't you love to be the bad guy? Well you won't have the opportunity because this is my role.

A troll bring destructive and nonconstructive posts. But my role is to add some negative with different view, if there is no bad guy, there is no good guy.

Beside i never said "remove" chocobo from the game. I think you need more education to even take a guess. I never even claim that in any sentences. And the word "Quit" doesn't mean anything like remove, you can quit you job here and work in another similar job. What i want is to see chocobo have a better role then just being your average mount. If they become mounts, they would lose the opportunity to be other roles.

For example, if they become a mount, how would a fat chocobo be your storage? Wouldn't it be weird to be weird that the same species one have high intelligent while other doesn't?






This thread itself has become the counter-argument that the same species can indeed have one highly intelligent being amongst the masses...or vice-versa.


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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
wrongfeifong wrote:
Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.


Either this is a failed troll attempt, or you're functionally retarded.

Possibly both.


I am definitely leaning towards the latter. Lost a few brain cells reading the post.
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wrongfeifong wrote:
I think the original FFXIV team really want to give chocobo a different purpose then just plain mount.

But the players have shot it down. Dev will try again hard FF15! Chocobo won't be your mounts!


Who here in their life time actually ride horses to work? actually, who actually even rode a horse before.

Why would people ride horses when there is car? Unless you live in Canada, these canadian are just moonwalkers going back to ancient time, seriously, they ride dogs. I am pretty sure win 95 is actually more popular then window 7 here and more users increase by the day.


Edited, Mar 1st 2011 1:05pm by wrongfeifong


We're supposed to ride dogs?? No one ever told me this! I'll have to get a dog now... >.>
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I thought SE called them horse birds?
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