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#1 Mar 14 2011 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
Hi all,

Even as the servers are down in the midst of the disasters in Japan, the Final Fantasy XIV official forums have been filled with discussions since launching nearly a week ago. As the new forums neared their launch date, many wondered what would happen to online communities such as ZAM. In this editorial, I share my response to that question. I'm sure some of you will disagree, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

You can check out my editorial here.

Discuss here! What do you think of the official forums so far, and what do you think about the ongoing roles of community fan sites such as ZAM?
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#2 Mar 14 2011 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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I know that if I read a thread by some "Fire_Lotus" mithra... I will rage...

Otherwise.. good read!
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#3 Mar 14 2011 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Zam will be fine. FFXIV however...

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#4 Mar 14 2011 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
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#5 Mar 15 2011 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm confused by your analogy because Hannibal is actually a very courteous host up until he starts devouring brains.

I like the new forums, although navigating them is kind of wonky.

ZAM and other sites will continue to exist because they allow for a less strict posting environment, and as pointed out, many of them have already existed for sometime. Not that people won't flock something new if it's well executed (i.e. the myspace to facebook exodus), but I don't see that happening with S-E. Even when they listen to their fans, they still can't get things right.
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#6 Mar 15 2011 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Its funny because its true. Seriously, I laughed out loud.
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#7 Mar 15 2011 at 1:10 AM Rating: Good
I have looked at the official forums and they seem bereft of negativity, in fact some of the threads there are very constructive. I've noticed in the past few weeks ZAM has been threadbare (sorry for the pun) but I think this is a good thing. Hopefully this will mean that once people are using these forums for discussion, questions and answers it will reset things on ZAM back to the times when most threads were actually useful and/or interesting. I really hope this gives the ZAM community the chance of making the FFXIV forums as good as, if not better than, the FFXI ones.
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#8 Mar 15 2011 at 3:11 AM Rating: Decent
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#9 Mar 15 2011 at 4:18 AM Rating: Default
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I think the ZAM community is too homogenized in the sense that many, if not most current posters come from XI. The official forums feel more diverse and I think that's a good thing for the game.
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#10 Mar 15 2011 at 4:26 AM Rating: Default
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The only thing it has to do with is that the official forums are getting offical replies and that feels as if your posts serve more of a purpose apart from simple chatting as on fan sites, it's the same for the XI forums. It feels like if you make a suggestion it matters and devs read it, which is probably not the case.

If they didn't have such strict login systems the damage would be a lot worse, the thing is though the official forums are new and ultimately Square will go back to their usual behaviour of ignoring (and indeed most of what you post is only seen by some mods and nobody imporant anyway). Once people see that and the newness wears off most will return to the old hangouts, because.. well in all hoensty there are a lot of tards on the offical forums which makes it a lot less fun to be a part of. :(
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#11 Mar 15 2011 at 5:46 AM Rating: Default
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I like Zams community better, the official forums feel like a much higher % of FF fans than FF MMO fans. I am more of an MMO fan when it comes down to it.
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#12 Mar 15 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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It's been very quiet on ZAM the last few days as everyone tries out the new site. I like the idea of the official site, but it does seem a bit bland/sterile.
It's good the moderators are paying so much attention, but they seem to be removing negative posts as well as offensive ones. I like that on ZAM, idiots can post whatever they like......but get the replies they deserve.
I also keep looking to the side expecting to see people's ratings, lol.

I think the official forum will be popular for a while, then people will drift back to their preferred sites. I also think when the game gets sorted out and more popular, SE will go back to their usual position of ignoring players. They seem to be listening to us at the moment only because they have to to survive. I hope I'm wrong, because I'm loving the attention they are giving us. It feels like we are being listened to and actually making a difference.

ZAM will be fine.
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#13 Mar 15 2011 at 6:54 AM Rating: Decent
I am more concerned about that poor little kitty in your Avatar, Grockle. Threatening to kill kitties with guns is not the way. :(
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#14 Mar 15 2011 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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superdupernuker wrote:
I'm confused by your analogy because Hannibal is actually a very courteous host up until he starts devouring brains.


I fail to see the problem with the analogy; that does describe a lot of posters around here; we're very nice to new people until we start eating them alive. :)
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#15 Mar 15 2011 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
I am more concerned about that poor little kitty in your Avatar, Grockle. Threatening to kill kitties with guns is not the way. :(




I thought it'd be an easy target, but it turned out to be an undercover marmot. It disarmed me and took me out with a nutkick :)
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