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#1 Mar 17 2011 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey all!

So, the computer that I have right now is a stock HP Firebird 802 (HP stopped making these) with Windows 7. When I ran the benchmark for this, I got around 2700 on the low setting, which I take it to mean that I can at least play the game with everything set to low.

Because of the score, I had the feeling that it's about time to build a new computer from the ground up! I haven't built one in a few years so I'm a bit out of the loop with a lot of the new stuff, so I was hoping to get some input from you guys after I did a little research.

My price range is between $1000-$1500, but for what it's worth, I'm going for something that will benchmark score maybe around 4000-5000 on low, and maybe 3000+ on high.

So far this is what I know I want for sure:

Processor: Intel i5 2500K (from microcenter for $180+tax)
Motherboard: P8P67 Deluxe (sold out of most stores since I've been looking, so no idea on price)
Video Card: GTX 560 Ti (from memory, I think microcenter had these for around $250)


What I need help with:

Memory: I don't know how much RAM I should be using, but I've read 6GB will suffice.
Hard drive: I've heard that SSDs are the way to go for gaming, but will they make a significant enough difference?


Any suggestions would be appreciated! And if anyone has a suggestion for replacing one piece or another, I'm more than open to it. Also, if anyone knows where I can get my hands on a P8P67 motherboard, that would be great. =]

Thanks in advanced
#2 Mar 17 2011 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Unless you plan on running RAM demanding applications (big files in photoshop, eclipse, etc) at the same time as the game 4GB RAM is more than enough to browse, msn, skype, fraps, etc., you won't even come near the 4GB limit.

SSD will cut loading times a lot but that barely matters in this game, you are better off investing in a more powerful CPU or GPU.

This only covers FF14, you might want to consider other games' requirements too.
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#3 Mar 17 2011 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
That setup should run FFXIV fine. Maybe not smoothly on high setting, but you shouldn't have any issues.
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#4 Mar 17 2011 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks! I'll probably go with 4gb of some of the higher speed ram then instead of the 6gb. As for the SSD, maybe a 10,000 RPM (or 7200) standard will do?

As for upping the CPU, I found some overclocking instructions for the i5 2500K to get it running to around 4Ghz, which I think is more than enough. the i7 2600K will get up to a little bit faster than that, so I didn't think it was worth the extra $100.
#5 Mar 17 2011 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
I don't know about overclocking CPUs. I have a Dell with an i7 920, a gtx465, and 8gb ram and the system runs hot already. I don't feel like putting in all sorts of fans and cooling systems, plus it runs everything fine for me, and I do a lot of multitasking. I'm sure I could get better performance out of it, but meh.
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#6 Mar 17 2011 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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[quote=mattkujata]I have a Dell with an i7 920, a gtx465, and 8gb ram and the system runs hot already. quote]

Did you get a chance to run the benchmark on your PC? How was your score? the gtx 465 would save me a pretty penny if it's getting the results that I want =]
#7 Mar 17 2011 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
I did run the benchmark, but I honestly don't remember my score. Don't put too much stock in the benchmark though. I do recall getting only a "decent" benchmark score and the game runs very smoothly on maximum settings on my PC.
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#8 Mar 17 2011 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I would go to (http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/download/benchmark01.html) first and check where you fit.


Suprastang wrote:

So far this is what I know I want for sure:

Processor: Intel i5 2500K (from microcenter for $180+tax)
Motherboard: P8P67 Deluxe (sold out of most stores since I've been looking, so no idea on price)
Video Card: GTX 560 Ti (from memory, I think microcenter had these for around $250)


What I need help with:

Memory: I don't know how much RAM I should be using, but I've read 6GB will suffice.
Hard drive: I've heard that SSDs are the way to go for gaming, but will they make a significant enough difference?


just so you know, usually when switching motherboards, it means installing everything from scratch. So, I would ensure that you have all your programs backed up and product keys, including Windows 7 (You'll have to call Microsoft to active it on your new mobo, since Windows will think you are registering the same key on another computer).

IMO, I think this set up can play the game, but since your budget is $1000-$1500, I think you could something better, maybe a higher end processor.



#9 Mar 17 2011 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
HamtarotheHam wrote:

since your budget is $1000-$1500, I think you could something better, maybe a higher end processor.


I'd have to agree, if all you're buying with that much is the computer. Mine was just under $1k stock from Dell. I had to upgrade the power supply along with the graphics card, so that was another few hundred there. Around $1300 total, I'm sure I could have done better, but I'm happy with it.
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#10 Mar 17 2011 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I have the same setup except I have an i7 2600k (oc'd to 4.4ghz) with 8gb of Corsair Vengeance memory. I also have the os and ffxiv on a 60gb ssd (the rest of the crap gets installed on another hdd). This runs the game effortlessly with everything on high settings on a 720p plasma tv. I scored over 7000 on the benchmark low settings. I am sure your setup will run it without a problem on high settings.

Should be a couple weeks yet for the p8p67 mobos to be readily available. I received my replacement mobo 1.5 weeks ago from Asus. I think they are focusing on getting the replacements out to the people that bought the faulty ones. You may be able to snag one if you camp Newegg.
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#11 Mar 17 2011 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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JJCheebone wrote:
I have the same setup except I have an i7 2600k (oc'd to 4.4ghz) with 8gb of Corsair Vengeance memory. I also have the os and ffxiv on a 60gb ssd (the rest of the crap gets installed on another hdd). This runs the game effortlessly with everything on high settings on a 720p plasma tv. I scored over 7000 on the benchmark low settings. I am sure your setup will run it without a problem on high settings.

Should be a couple weeks yet for the p8p67 mobos to be readily available. I received my replacement mobo 1.5 weeks ago from Asus. I think they are focusing on getting the replacements out to the people that bought the faulty ones. You may be able to snag one if you camp Newegg.



Lol we must be twins! I'll actually be running mine on a 720p plasma tv I bought for Christmas.

Since everyone here was saying to up the CPU, I was thinking of getting the i7 2600K. As for the SSD, I think I could find a 40gb one for not too expensive, then do what you did and get everything else on a 1TB standard hd.

How much $ did you end up putting into your PC?
#12 Mar 17 2011 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I also have to ask if your character name is a madmen reference. LOL

Last halloween, my gf went as Joan and I went as Roger Sterling.
#13 Mar 17 2011 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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It cost me about $1,500 for everything. I use the modular Corsair 750w power supply. I actually bought a gtx460 when I built it but upgraded to the gtx560ti twin frozr from MSI. The 560 outperforms the 460 by a significant margin. Also I would recommend a ssd a bit larger than 40gb. The os and ffxiv leave me about 13 gb of free space.

The game looks really good on the 50" plasma @ 720. The text is the perfect size. My gf actually uses this rig. I play on a Dell with an i7 870, 6gb memory and that gtx460 on a 23" 1080p monitor.

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#14 Mar 17 2011 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Suprastang wrote:
I also have to ask if your character name is a madmen reference. LOL

Last halloween, my gf went as Joan and I went as Roger Sterling.


You are correct! I wanted my name to be Draper Whitman but ffxiv wouldn't allow it. Me and gf think it's because the word rape is embedded in Draper. I was disappointed but Sterling Cooper worked.
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#15 Mar 19 2011 at 1:16 PM Rating: Default
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anything more than a i5 2500k for gamming is pointless. thats still a top end cpu, faster than previous generation i7's like the 920 etc even at slower clock speeds. the only difference with the i5 2500k and the i7 2600k is the i7 has hyperthreading which is useless for gaming, but is good for encoding etc.... so yeah put more money into a gpu like the 570 or 580..

not overclocking a 2500k is pretty silly as they'll do far more than there rated speed at the same or not much more voltage thus not really adding much heat. the k serious is meant for overclocking wise you might as well save a few buck and get an unoverclockable i5 2500 (not k) instead and cheaper mobo too.

an ssd for gaming is pretty useless as it only affects loading times, unless you've allready got a stupidly powerful gpu and stil have money to burn.




Edited, Mar 19th 2011 3:26pm by jamiehavok
#16 Mar 19 2011 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if you are looking at a laptop or desktop but my brother just bought this laptop and can run the game with no issues at all on high specs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220861

He says the power supply get real hot and the fans pump out some hot air as well. The game looks and runs great. hope it helps
#17 Mar 19 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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piznatches wrote:
Not sure if you are looking at a laptop or desktop but my brother just bought this laptop and can run the game with no issues at all on high specs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220861

He says the power supply get real hot and the fans pump out some hot air as well. The game looks and runs great. hope it helps

I bought one of those specific for playing XIV, as I wanted to bring XIV to work with me. I had to return 2 of them, I kept gray barring when playing XIV. It would be fine for hours then just take a crap. Tried updating BIOS, VBIOS, drivers, CCC, everything.
Finally settled on returning it and building a new rig, which I take back and forth with a lan-party bag.

My friend bought one as well, and has the same problems, he's just too lazy to return it, lol.

It sucked, because that thing ran XIV like a dream, until it didn't.

Now that I think about it, they discontinued it on Newegg a few months ago, so perhaps that is a newer version of the same model.
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#18 Mar 19 2011 at 10:46 PM Rating: Good
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I bought a BestBuy Gateway 6840. Ran the game OK, but I have since put a Sapphire HD6870 and a Corsair 850 watt PS in it.
Core i7 860
Win 7 6.1, build 7601
Benchmark gives me 4304, load time 24163 ms on high.

Original config:
HD5770
2497
load time 17355

Edited, Mar 19th 2011 10:04pm by AekaMasaki
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#19 Mar 19 2011 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Just an update guys!

I built a rig without the i5 2500K and the GTX 560 TI super clocked. The i5 2500K I cranked to 4.2 Ghz. Got a score of 6200 on low!! Build for under $1000 :)

I5 2500K for $180
P8p67 mobo $160
4 gb ram ddr3-1600 $70
1 TB hard drive 7200 rpm $60
GTX 560 TI $270
850 watt power supply $85
Optical drive $40

With tax came out around $940

I'll probably get a 2nd gpu for sli soon
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