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#1 Mar 18 2011 at 7:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Originally, we announced that the services will be temporarily suspended for about a week starting on Mar. 13, 2011 3:00 (PDT). However, due to ongoing issues with the lack of energy, we have decided to extend the suspension until Mar. 22, 2011 (JST). We will re-evaluate the situation on Mar. 22, 2011 (JST) and provide everyone with another update regarding this matter.


Edited, Mar 18th 2011 12:51pm by mattkujata
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#3 Mar 18 2011 at 7:19 AM Rating: Default
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Now would be a good time to move the servers out of the blackout zone? Just a thought.
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Riniaru wrote:
Now would be a good time to move the servers out of the blackout zone? Just a thought.


Since you seemed to be trained in such matters, by all means please explain the logistics to us all. In addition to that, if you could provide some method of running the servers without taking the power from other much more vital Japanese resources I'm sure Square Enix would really appreciate it.

You have almost 8 rank 50's, I'd have thought you could make the best use of this time of all of us. Just a thought.

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:23am by Dlaqev
#5 Mar 18 2011 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
Rinairu, take these days to get some sun.
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Since you seemed to be trained in such matters, by all means please explain the logistics to us all. In addition to that, if you could provide some method of running the servers without taking the power from other much more vital Japanese resources I'm sure Square Enix would really appreciate it.


They moved the entire FFXI servers not long ago, last month? took 8 hours.
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Since you seemed to be trained in such matters, by all means please explain the logistics to us all. In addition to that, if you could provide some method of running the servers without taking the power from other much more vital Japanese resources I'm sure Square Enix would really appreciate it.


They moved the entire FFXI servers not long ago, last month? took 8 hours.


Do you think that was a spontaneous decision? The previous poster was suggesting upping and moving them out of a rolling blackout zone, despite the fact that the reason the servers arent up (the still are for some japanese games situated in the area from SEGA) is because they're doing the right thing and trying to help conserve power for the people suffering around Japan, not because they have to.

FFXI's server move was an entirely different and justifiable situation.

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Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:42am by Dlaqev
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In addition to that, if you could provide some method of running the servers without taking the power from other much more vital Japanese resources I'm sure Square Enix would really appreciate it.

Easy, move the servers furthur west. You're trying to make it sound as if the power shortages apply to the whole of Japan?

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Rinairu, take these days to get some sun.

I've been playing PSU in the meantime...
Because sun hurts my eyes :(

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:51am by Riniaru
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Do you think that was a spontaneous decision?


No but it shows it can be done with prep work done with the servers still running, this will cause a lot of damage to the titles. Seems if it can be done it should be done if theres a chance of continual extensions.
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FFXIV's a pretty damaged title to begin with. Furthermore I really doubt they're even going to have the workforce to conduct any form of major activity considering the fact that there's no sign of the nuclear incident being controlled any time soon and a huge amount of people are trying to leave the city or find relatives.

It's not practical, and if the playerbase has any kind of empathy it won't be damaging their server based games either.

Of course, as well as this we as observers (and not technicians) have no idea what the change from 50Hz frequency in East Japan to 60 Hz would do to the servers themselves. If someone does know then feel free to correct me there!
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@ Rinairu: seriously, that's an unhealthy amount of hours logged. Seek professional help.

Are you getting the shakes yet?

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:59am by thejones
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Player empathy can only keep them going so long, after all XIV is an international game that just happens to have all it's servers in one place. Ok that's a lie, at least in Selbina the playerbase there is like 90% Japanese...

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@ Rinairu: seriously, that's an unhealthy amount of hours logged. Seek professional help.

Are you getting the shakes yet?
Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:59am by thejones

Shakes? I'm keeping myself busy with other games while I wait.

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 10:09am by Riniaru
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@ Rinairu: seriously, that's an unhealthy amount of hours logged. Seek professional help.

Are you getting the shakes yet?

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:59am by thejones


even still lol i'm a lil jealous tbh. i wish i had enough time to do that many jobs to 50/40+. **** job and alcoholism... i wonder if i could get an avatar of my drinking habbits. r50 Drinking Alone, r50 Passed out Face Down Some Where Strange, r50 Drunk Karaoke, r45 Beer Pong, r42 Keg Stands, r2 Talking to Cops
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Riniaru wrote:
Dlaqev wrote:
In addition to that, if you could provide some method of running the servers without taking the power from other much more vital Japanese resources I'm sure Square Enix would really appreciate it.

Easy, move the servers furthur west. You're trying to make it sound as if the power shortages apply to the whole of Japan?

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Rinairu, take these days to get some sun.

I've been playing PSU in the meantime...
Because sun hurts my eyes :(

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:51am by Riniaru


Where SE was wasn't HUGELY affected by the disasters but it was asked of a lot of the region to conserve energy. Much like in CA they told people to try to conserve water as much as possible.

They don't need to move the servers.
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And I'd probably start shaking if I had to endure a 7hour+ long blackout whilst at work when it was only scheduled to last 3 hours, the traffic signals went out and I couldn't use my mobile to send texts because AU's servers got congested. It'd be even worse if said blackouts were like "if you conserve enough energy we won't actually cut your power!" and seemed to occur randomly regarless of TEPCO having a schedule. It's 11PM and the only way to access the internet is via a company laptop that workmates are passing around to contact their loved ones and friends, if the power doesn't come back soon maybe I'll have to sleep at work tonight, or I could try walking home tonight but I might end up getting attacked because Yokohama isn't safe without lights.

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Where SE was wasn't HUGELY affected by the disasters but it was asked of a lot of the region to conserve energy. Much like in CA they told people to try to conserve water as much as possible.

They don't need to move the servers.

If they moved the servers out of the region, they wouldn't have to conserve energy.
Also, they're affected by the power outages, that appear to be more random than they are rolling.
So, did they have rolling water outages in CA then?

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 10:37am by Riniaru
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#16 Mar 18 2011 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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I went 1/22. This was shortly after they changed it to ra/ex from Mee Deggi, so there was a lot of competition too, I only claimed it 25% of the time. Months later my girlfriend goes 1/2 on it...

By the way, and please don't mind if I hijack the thread I started for a sec: How do I get my signature to show my FFXIV data, the way you guys have. I understand it's a link from enjin which is taken from Lodestone... ? o.0

Anyway. They don't need to move the servers, we just need to be patient. I consider myself very lucky that the worst of my problems associated with this situation is that the server outage coincided with my week off work. :(
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#17 Mar 18 2011 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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Don't forget very few people will drive to and from work daily during a nuclear emergency that has to be taken into account.
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By the way, and please don't mind if I hijack the thread I started for a sec: How do I get my signature to show my FFXIV data, the way you guys have. I understand it's a link from enjin which is taken from Lodestone... ? o.0


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#19 Mar 18 2011 at 8:57 AM Rating: Good
Woohieee! Thanks!
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Riniaru wrote:
Now would be a good time to move the servers out of the blackout zone? Just a thought.


1.) It's four days from now; holy sh*t. Your Rank 50s will be there sitting at the level cap when you get back.
2.) I'm sorry SE is saving power in order to help out earthquake victims; you are right in that they could probably tap in to a hospital's grid somewhere for more server stability.
3.) It's four days from now!
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No one has mentioned this...

I run a Datacenter, and not a very big one - the one thing you ALWAYS have working and ready to go, is a generator. I'm sure SE has one. They are probably just too cheap to keep it running and use it instead of the grid.

I've run datacenters in other countries where electricity is not so stable. Our generator would run for 4 hours a day during electricity rationing times. Sometimes more.

This decision seems to be more about SE's image to public Japan more than anything else. Which makes sense given Japanese culture...

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you are right in that they could probably tap in to a hospital's grid somewhere for more server stability.

Wtf does moving west have to do with tapping into a hospital's grid? And BTW 2 of your points are the same incase you didn't realize.

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 11:36am by Riniaru
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No one has mentioned this...

I run a Datacenter, and not a very big one - the one thing you ALWAYS have working and ready to go, is a generator. I'm sure SE has one. They are probably just too cheap to keep it running and use it instead of the grid.

I've run datacenters in other countries where electricity is not so stable. Our generator would run for 4 hours a day during electricity rationing times. Sometimes more.

This decision seems to be more about SE's image to public Japan more than anything else. Which makes sense given Japanese culture...



FFXIV is a game. Hardly a crucial data center. Generators cost resources to run, and I'm sure their "public image" would be negative if they were burning a generator to keep a game running. No one has mentioned this because it is selfish on more than one level.
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rikkuotaku wrote:
No one has mentioned this...

I run a Datacenter, and not a very big one - the one thing you ALWAYS have working and ready to go, is a generator. I'm sure SE has one. They are probably just too cheap to keep it running and use it instead of the grid.

I've run datacenters in other countries where electricity is not so stable. Our generator would run for 4 hours a day during electricity rationing times. Sometimes more.

This decision seems to be more about SE's image to public Japan more than anything else. Which makes sense given Japanese culture...



Other services were also asked to conserve energy, so it's not an ulterior motive, it's actually people trying to help the situation out..shocking I know. Whether they do or don't have generators is a moot point to this situation. Yes I'm sure everyone wants to play XIV/XI so badly, but I don't think "cheapness" is a reason.

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rikkuotaku wrote:
No one has mentioned this...

I run a Datacenter, and not a very big one - the one thing you ALWAYS have working and ready to go, is a generator. I'm sure SE has one. They are probably just too cheap to keep it running and use it instead of the grid.

I've run datacenters in other countries where electricity is not so stable. Our generator would run for 4 hours a day during electricity rationing times. Sometimes more.

This decision seems to be more about SE's image to public Japan more than anything else. Which makes sense given Japanese culture...



As I understand it, generators need a fuel to run, such as gasoline or diesel, and I've been hearing that people are dieing because there isn't enough fuel for ambulances. It stands to assume that they're trying to save fuel for those who need it.
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As long as Japan has its crisis so will SE be down it seems. With the power situation bad one can assume that the games based in Japan will also be off line. Japanese are a disciplined people and will do as instructed. With the government saying to conserve energy then everyone will. One has to admire the way they are handling the situation. I doubt other places would handle it as well as they are.

Now comes the business part of the situation.
SE will loose people from the game base. That is a given. How many will they loose? It's hard to tell. The longer they are off line the more they will loose. Japanese players will stick with it and few will drop. However, Other country's not experiencing this situation have less reasons to stick around and wait. Plenty of other platforms up and going that they can move to. Even I have been looking for an alternative to keep myself occupied. Perhaps I may move on and perhaps not.
Now SE is a global company and that gives them options that they can take. They can sit tight till the situation gets better. Or they can do something about it. I know that servers are not Uber huge systems anymore. I used to build them a few years back. Moving them is also not that hard. SE has branches that they could move them to and bring the games back on line to keep the masses happy and also continue to generate income. And Income is something they will be needing badly in the months to come. Place yourself in charge of SE and think about what you would do?
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rikkuotaku wrote:
No one has mentioned this...

I run a Datacenter, and not a very big one - the one thing you ALWAYS have working and ready to go, is a generator. I'm sure SE has one. They are probably just too cheap to keep it running and use it instead of the grid.

I've run datacenters in other countries where electricity is not so stable. Our generator would run for 4 hours a day during electricity rationing times. Sometimes more.

This decision seems to be more about SE's image to public Japan more than anything else. Which makes sense given Japanese culture...



As I understand it, generators need a fuel to run, such as gasoline or diesel, and I've been hearing that people are dieing because there isn't enough fuel for ambulances. It stands to assume that they're trying to save fuel for those who need it.


Exactly, ain't no such thing as free energy.

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I'd probably think that people could last 4 days without crying and demanding radical restructuing. And I'd be wrong.



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A roomful of servers surely SE could afford to buy a roomful of servers from somewhere else?

Then again it's only a couple of days so it's not a big deal. Besides it's not like the game has changed during the past week anyway.

Overall I'm looking forward to the next update more than the day they put the game back online.

Some of the other stuff has made no sense too like the fact that they said translations to posts are hard because the translators are in other countries. What? I mean any other company surely would use e-mail for communication, right?

Then again maybe there hasn't been that much work done lately because of the disasters so there's nothing to translate to Lodestone anyway?

Hopefully the next Lodestone post will be a bit longer to let us know what's going to happen next.
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Acutally, none of these posts pertain to this thread. I saw the news on Lodestone this morning, so I figured I'd post it as a heads up. Smiley: tongue
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#33 Mar 18 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
Thanks for the update mattkujata.

Weekly updates seem resonable. Hopefully power shortages will be eased soon. Many industries are reporting a 30% reduction in productivity due to continued rolling blackouts. There are other more crucial industries that still need power at this time.

Some areas have canceled scheduled rolling blackouts. This may indicate that the situation is improving in some areas. Or, it could be that the areas specifically were deemed too to risky to shut off power, due to services needed to keep evacuees safe.

Shelters are still in need of basic supplies, food, water, blankets and medication. Distribution of available supplies is hampered because of damaged roads. Each prefecture is reporting that a certain amount of their local population has been cut off from rescue due to damaged roads. Because there is no communication, no one can know that fate of people in these areas until work crews and engineers can repair access.

In this situation, it is clearly not yet time to resume drawing from the thinly spread resources, or to even appear to. SE is surely continuing to allow employees time off while they try to contact family and friends who may be still be missing.

The least we can do is continue to be patient and appreciate that they still taking time to provide status updates.
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Some of the other stuff has made no sense too like the fact that they said translations to posts are hard because the translators are in other countries. What? I mean any other company surely would use e-mail for communication, right?


Not the posts, the in-game content.
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#36 Mar 18 2011 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
Whether that person is botting or not, this is the wrong place for the debate.
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Indeed it is, hence my advance apology.

I cannot resist but call him out for cheating.


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I quit FFXI with 550 days logged, and I know there are people with way more than that.
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Indeed it is, hence my advance apology.

I cannot resist but call him out for cheating.


You're so sure of this that you made a sock to create the 2 posts... >.>

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well for some people that are too impatient get a grip be happy there not down for too long, if the nuclear plant goes into meltdown we may never see FFXIV again so they have a lot more to think about, i wouldnt be surprised if its extended further. if you have read a few things they said they may not have stable power till the end of april. i dont think a power outage while the servers running would be a good thing to our data...
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#42 Mar 18 2011 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
Let's play nice here, folks. No need to start sniping each other.
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I went 1/22. This was shortly after they changed it to ra/ex from Mee Deggi, so there was a lot of competition too, I only claimed it 25% of the time. Months later my girlfriend goes 1/2 on it...


1/337 on mee deggi
1/229 on quu domi

1/1 LL
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1/6 Argus

Life is not fair >.> Just wish I could have gotten the pimp hat while I was still ingame :P

I personally can wait for servers to come up. They can take all the time they need :) Playing Aion privately now and enjoying that while I wait.

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Elionara wrote:
mattkujata wrote:
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1/1 Ochimusa Kote...wow <.<


I went 1/22. This was shortly after they changed it to ra/ex from Mee Deggi, so there was a lot of competition too, I only claimed it 25% of the time. Months later my girlfriend goes 1/2 on it...


1/337 on mee deggi
1/229 on quu domi

1/1 LL
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1/6 Argus

Life is not fair >.> Just wish I could have gotten the pimp hat while I was still ingame :P

I personally can wait for servers to come up. They can take all the time they need :) Playing Aion privately now and enjoying that while I wait.

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 11:44am by Elionara


Well, life isn't fair and I paid for going 1/1 on that ever since:

Took..till 2010 to finally get my D-Chapeau, took till mid 2010 to get my Etoile Casaque.

That's doing Dynamis on a regular basis..even spamming Xarc for months.

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Good to see an update. I hope Japan and its people can get back to their normal ways of life again soon. I'll be continuing my prayers for you!
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Riniaru wrote:
Player empathy can only keep them going so long, after all XIV is an international game that just happens to have all it's servers in one place. Ok that's a lie, at least in Selbina the playerbase there is like 90% Japanese...

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@ Rinairu: seriously, that's an unhealthy amount of hours logged. Seek professional help.

Are you getting the shakes yet?
Edited, Mar 18th 2011 9:59am by thejones

Shakes? I'm keeping myself busy with other games while I wait.

Edited, Mar 18th 2011 10:09am by Riniaru


Riniaru, I must say I envy your patience and perseverance on FFXIV. If more people had that level of devotion to their job, families, and lives we'd be in a near utopia. I honestly don't mean this in a demeaning way, but ****... you must never get bored with things.


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#51 Mar 18 2011 at 4:13 PM Rating: Default
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I take it most of ZAM is so casual, they didn't notice the drastic SP adjustments that made hitting R50 quicker and easier than tying one's shoelaces.

Nope. Velcro straps.

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