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#1 Apr 13 2011 at 1:50 AM Rating: Default
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Like for example, where did SE think it was a good idea to take away SP if you attack an unclaimed mob during levequests or behests?

What's the point? I just don't get it!
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#2 Apr 13 2011 at 2:22 AM Rating: Good
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Because they want the player to complete the leve as quickly as possible and log-out? It also prevents the player from feeling too much freedom which probably wouldn't be casual enough. Your guess is as good as mine.
#3 Apr 13 2011 at 3:39 AM Rating: Good
This discussion has been brought up many times. Yoshi-P has already stated a couple of times that they are most likely going to change it, and on top of that this issue was also addressed in the last player's poll (sort of).

And on a side note. I am sure you think your upcoming leadership poll will be "epic" and I agree. However, I feel that adding the word "fail" after epic would be a better prediction for it. Based on your threads and the general dislike for you and the majority of your posts, you would be better off not posting it at all, as I am betting it will be sub-defaulted/locked fairly quickly.

Honestly, I don't even know why you bother posting at all. You once asked me personally to give you some suggestions on how to improve your rep on ZAM, well I am officially retracting any prior advice as there is obviously nothing I can tell you that will help you at this point.

If you take pride in being infamous (which contrary to popular belief, is not a good thing), a troll, egotistical, and delusional (thinking you are providing game-breaking information to a player-base that already knew everything your trying to teach, save maybe a very few new-to-any-MMO noobs who don't know any better) that is fine, but I am from this point on officially boycotting any and all ViK threads. I won't Karma camp you, but I absolutely refuse to even glance at your thread, regardless of the title.

I am truly sorry it has come to this.

Peace.
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#4 Apr 13 2011 at 6:43 AM Rating: Default
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Really ...
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#6 Apr 13 2011 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Other than a few stupid posts, what has he really done that is SO horrible, and SO worthy of widespread hate?


Well, you see the forums have been th-

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You're all just elitest ****.


Nevermind, thought this was a serious post.

Edited, Apr 13th 2011 7:10am by Theonehio
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#7 Apr 13 2011 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
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This thread doesn't seem to be going anywhere, but I am genuinely curious about levequest design--it's one of the things that turned me off when I played beta.

Aren't levequests essentially instances? Well, I guess WoW calls this sort of instance "phasing," but the mobs only spawn for you, no one else can attack them, but you just happen to be in an open area?

Few people here seem to really relish in the idea of instanced combat, so why do we have this weird mechanic in the most common quests in FFXIV?

Obviously it would help with things like kill-stealing or hogging all the mobs, but that hasn't been an issue in any other modern MMO I've played (I didn't see that as a problem during the Rift beta, nor the Aion Western opening when servers were jammed full). You just have lots of mobs, and given FFXIV has these massive open spaces, they certainly have the room.

My only hunch is that maybe FFXIV can't handle that many mobs? Given the limitations of the PS3 in terms of memory, perhaps the developers are hitting a wall with how many enemies, NPCs, and cool stuff like that they can have in an area when all those high-res textures are sitting in memory? Maybe that's why development has been so slow, and the world is so empty, and the only major changes they're talking about are end-game instanced content which no one wants?
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I see an admin has finally gotten around to warning him. Now it's only a matter of time...
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#9 Apr 13 2011 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
This discussion has been brought up many times. Yoshi-P has already stated a couple of times that they are most likely going to change it, and on top of that this issue was also addressed in the last player's poll (sort of).


I don't recall that. Could I ask you to try and track down that comment from Yoshi-P?

The removal of this un-claimed mob SP nerf seems pretty straightforward improvement. I'm not sure I can even reason out the purpose it had in the first place?

Edited, Apr 13th 2011 2:03pm by SmashingtonWho
#10 Apr 13 2011 at 12:06 PM Rating: Default
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SmashingtonWho wrote:
Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
This discussion has been brought up many times. Yoshi-P has already stated a couple of times that they are most likely going to change it, and on top of that this issue was also addressed in the last player's poll (sort of).


I don't recall that. Could I ask you to try and track down that comment from Yoshi-P?

The removal of this un-claimed mob SP nerf seems pretty straightforward improvement. I'm not sure I can even reason out the purpose it had in the first place?

Edited, Apr 13th 2011 2:03pm by SmashingtonWho


It was in one of the list of changes from an old Producer Letter. I think it was under "changes to the claiming system" or something like that.
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#11 Apr 13 2011 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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It was in one of the list of changes from an old Producer Letter. I think it was under "changes to the claiming system" or something like that.


^This. To be honest he might not have said so much that they were going to actually change it, but "address it". However, I think it is safe to say that it will most likely be changed since it is obvious that the majority of players are unhappy about it (myself included since I have access to aoe magic yet I can't aoe nuke a crowd of mobs without sacrificing SP and drops).

Edited, Apr 13th 2011 9:32pm by StateAlchemist2

Edited, Apr 13th 2011 9:32pm by StateAlchemist2
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#12 Apr 13 2011 at 8:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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infamous

Does anyone remember how the infamous bit in Three Amigos went? Something like in-famous is more than famous and he's not just famous he's in-famous or something? Funny, funny movie!

You can't be too hard on ViK. He's like that new kid in school who came in and tried to be popular but discovered he couldn't get attention that way so he decides to be the class clown instead. Just /sigh and move along.
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Grand Master Alchemist StateAlchemist2 wrote:
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Does anyone remember how the infamous bit in Three Amigos went?
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Oh, Dusty. In-famous is when you're MORE than famous. This man El Guapo, he's not just famous, he's IN-famous.
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#14 Apr 13 2011 at 10:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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ViKtoricus wrote:
Like for example, where did SE think it was a good idea to take away SP if you attack an unclaimed mob during levequests or behests?

What's the point? I just don't get it!


Greetings, ViKtoricus!
Thank you for posting your concerns regarding the SP and unclaimed mobs. I can understand how annoying it can be to not receive SP for mobs you have defeated, so I have made sure to submit your report to the development team for further investigation. I recommend checking on this thread for any further details about the progress of the investigation. Thanks again for the report!
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#15 Apr 14 2011 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
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akirussan wrote:
ViKtoricus wrote:
Like for example, where did SE think it was a good idea to take away SP if you attack an unclaimed mob during levequests or behests?

What's the point? I just don't get it!


Greetings, ViKtoricus!
Thank you for posting your concerns regarding the SP and unclaimed mobs. I can understand how annoying it can be to not receive SP for mobs you have defeated, so I have made sure to submit your report to the development team for further investigation. I recommend checking on this thread for any further details about the progress of the investigation. Thanks again for the report!


[stupid]Is this an SE person actually hanging out on ZAM and posting helpful stuff? Or is it someone talking the way the GMs do? I assume it's the latter, but I'm not 100% sure because it is so incredibly accurate.[/stupid]
#16 Apr 14 2011 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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[stupid]Is this an SE person actually hanging out on ZAM and posting helpful stuff? Or is it someone talking the way the GMs do? I assume it's the latter, but I'm not 100% sure because it is so incredibly accurate.[/stupid]


Greetings, Solimurr!
Thank you for posting your concerns regarding the identity of the previous poster. I can understand how confusing it can be to not be able to tell who is posting, so I have made sure to submit your report to the development team for further investigation. I recommend checking on this thread for any further details about the progress of the investigation. Thanks again for the report!

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#17 Apr 14 2011 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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Lawl Akirussan xD
#18 Apr 15 2011 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
akirussan wrote:
Solimurr wrote:
[stupid]Is this an SE person actually hanging out on ZAM and posting helpful stuff? Or is it someone talking the way the GMs do? I assume it's the latter, but I'm not 100% sure because it is so incredibly accurate.[/stupid]


Greetings, Solimurr!
Thank you for posting your concerns regarding the identity of the previous poster. I can understand how confusing it can be to not be able to tell who is posting, so I have made sure to submit your report to the development team for further investigation. I recommend checking on this thread for any further details about the progress of the investigation. Thanks again for the report!



Greetings, Akirussan!
Thank you for posting something worthwhile on what would otherwise be a bland boring thread. I can understand how unsatisfying it must be to click on a ViKtoricus thread in the first place, so by living up the thread you have made the visit just a little less painful. I recommend increasing your posts power level to over 9000, that way Vegeta will break more scouters and hopefully generate some new jobs in my area. Thanks again for the posts!
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#19 Apr 15 2011 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
akirussan is my new hero! Well done sir.
#20ViKtoricus, Posted: Apr 15 2011 at 5:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) NOT FAIR! I'm funnier than that guy.
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