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#52 Apr 27 2011 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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VydarrTyr wrote:
Actually, there's a little yellow globe in the top right of your screen that's an NPC linkpearl. Whenever you get a new mission, it starts blinking. At that point, you know you should open your main menu and click on "NPC Linkpearl," and someone will tell you where to go to start the mission.

This is explained in the very first Storyline quest. Of course, that was probably a while ago for many of us, so it's understandable that people would forget.

Except it just doesn't happen for that story quest. The NPC even refer to the fact you were summoned by a letter or something, but you just don't get it. I even waited on Real-life day between getting rank 34 and going myself to Grid to do the quest, in case it would suddenly show up as I walked around or something.
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#53 Apr 28 2011 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
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The intro CS alone beats rank 1-5 missions pretty painlessly.


Ha. Hahaha-ha. Cringe.
You mean the "hear! feel! think!" stuff?

It's like, it skipped the most essential parts:

(We don't want to) hear! (any complaints)
(We) feel! (we know better what our players want than they do)
(If you seriously) think! (this game delivers anything shown in the commecial trailer, you're in for a surprise).

If there was actually some meaning to that voice, I would agree. But as so many things in this game, it's some promise that's never kept.

Well, things have gotten notably better during the last month, though (babysteps, but still). A couple of months more, and we'll have a game that pleases more than a few die-hards.

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 7:38am by Rinsui
#54 Apr 28 2011 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Ha. Hahaha-ha. Cringe.
You mean the "hear! feel! think!" stuff?


Hey, I didn't say it was that good.

Some of you are really blowing XI's vanilla "story" out of proportion however. It was ****.
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#55 Apr 28 2011 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I just wish The Black Shroud looked like their artist's rendering.

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Me too. I hope they burn the forest down or something. So the weight of the existing content doesn't hold them back from making it interesting. Also it would be nice if they added something interesting in the forest other than just big trees. Something to motivate traveling and exploration please.
#56 Apr 28 2011 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey, I didn't say it was that good.

Some of you are really blowing XI's vanilla "story" out of proportion however. It was sh*t.


Hmm. Agreed. Stuff like "Dark Lord who tries to take over the world" is not very innovative either.
But I think the previous author was more refer(r?)ing to the manymany interwoven bits that told the
story without explicitly telling the story...

A really good story is not "told" in a cutscene. It unfolds naturally. And that's where XI arguably
did a more coherent job than XIV.
#57 Apr 28 2011 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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The great thing about FFXI's story to me wasn't just CS's and NPC dialogue but it was the overall context of the quests. The FFXI storylines took you to some incredibly distinct, instanced, or otherwise restricted zones that could only be accessed while you were on that part of the quest chain. The CoP storyline alone contained more unique / instanced zones than FFXIV has regular zones (e.g. promies, riverene sites, sea, the CoP city (forgot name, sorry), etc.)

The scope, scale, epic soundtracks, unique encounters, and unique zones involved in those quest chains made them feel so much more substantial than anything that FFXIV has offered thus far in terms of content. I have to admit that ZM and CoP quest lines were expansions years after the initial release of XI, but even the original rank missions from FFXI had a lot more meat on the bones. The "quests" I've done so far in FFXIV have been so instantly forgettable I'd just as soon not have done them at all.
#58 Apr 28 2011 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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The "quests" I've done so far in FFXIV have been so instantly forgettable I'd just as soon not have done them at all.


Funny, because to me the case is completely opposite. XI's quests were "spice of life" most of the time, as someone mentioned, and thus they weren't that interesting, with or without cutscenes. XIV's quests are actually related to the events, current and upcoming, which makes them a lot more interesting, with or without cutscenes.

Especially the early XI quests and missions may have as well been told majorly through text boxes.

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#59 Apr 28 2011 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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The truth is, you can get to 34 in less than 5 days with minimal play time... I'm not saying you SHOULD do that, or that you're inferior in any way if you haven't yet; again, I'm JUST saying that it makes perfect sense as to why most people in this thread are confused.


You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.
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#60 Apr 28 2011 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
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You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.


Even when SP was random I could get a job to 30+ solo playing casually in a month. I'm not sure what you did for 6 months >.> SP these days is insanely easier to get than back then. 33 in the course of a week is definitely doable. It is bogus to say something's whack when clearly didn't play "hard" or even recently.
#61 Apr 28 2011 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LateReg wrote:
The truth is, you can get to 34 in less than 5 days with minimal play time... I'm not saying you SHOULD do that, or that you're inferior in any way if you haven't yet; again, I'm JUST saying that it makes perfect sense as to why most people in this thread are confused.


You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.


It is much easier than it was when we all started @ release. This new character of mine is just about caught up to my original one in less playtime. What took months on that original 1 took a little over a month on this 1. SP 1-31 is less than it was and it's just easier overall to find steady SP and progress quicker.

No idea about the 1 class to 34 in 5 days bit because I spread out more. I think that would require pushing through some heavy fatigue. Most would probably put time into something else.

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 8:22pm by TwistedOwl
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#62 Apr 28 2011 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.


Even when SP was random I could get a job to 30+ solo playing casually in a month. I'm not sure what you did for 6 months >.> SP these days is insanely easier to get than back then. 33 in the course of a week is definitely doable. It is bogus to say something's whack when clearly didn't play "hard" or even recently.


I played for two weeks straight at release almost constantly (took vacation)

and then played mediumcore for months after that. (Basically as much as someone with a fulltime job, a partner but not really many real life friends can possibly play)

As for "not having played recently" I played just a little over a month ago - so yeah, that is recently.

That said I've never deliberately failed leves or taken advantage of any exploit to level, so maybe that is why I didn't level as fast as some people claim they have. I also only ever did a coblyn party once (and it was more boring than spamming easy prey alchemy synths). However that coblyn party was what finally helped me break 30 on a combat job

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=1540738

Maybe I just spent too much time/too many leves on fishing - whatever. Or maybe you guys are all just uber and stuff but either way I think it is a little rich to suggest most people can get to 34 in 5 days of minimal playtime.


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#63 Apr 28 2011 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LateReg wrote:
The truth is, you can get to 34 in less than 5 days with minimal play time... I'm not saying you SHOULD do that, or that you're inferior in any way if you haven't yet; again, I'm JUST saying that it makes perfect sense as to why most people in this thread are confused.


You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.


It is much easier than it was when we all started @ release. This new character of mine is just about caught up to my original one in less playtime. What took months on that original 1 took a little over a month on this 1. SP 1-31 is less than it was and it's just easier overall to find steady SP and progress quicker.

No idea about the 1 class to 34 in 5 days bit because I spread out more. I think that would require pushing through some heavy fatigue. Most would probably put time into something else.



Yeah last I checked fatigue kicks in on a character going from 1-18 or so... and given the exp amounts between levels are much higher after 20 - I just don't buy that most people would be able to push through like that - especially if they rolled a new character and didn't have physical level either

I was around when they adjusted the exp to 20 and through several exp adjustments and none of them were that stellar... I mean WOOO! I can get 250 exp on a goat that takes 3 minutes and most of my MP to kill... yey.

I haven't tried it out with regenerating MP though...
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#64 Apr 28 2011 at 7:07 PM Rating: Default
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If you put in about 8-10 hours of time in a single day, you can go 1-30 with some leves and doblyns in a group. Spread that 10 hours over 5 days and you have yourself at LEAST a 30.
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#65 Apr 29 2011 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
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Except it just doesn't happen for that story quest. The NPC even refer to the fact you were summoned by a letter or something, but you just don't get it. I even waited on Real-life day between getting rank 34 and going myself to Grid to do the quest, in case it would suddenly show up as I walked around or something.

Interesting. It popped for me. Maybe a bug?
#66 Apr 29 2011 at 5:16 AM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
I was around when they adjusted the exp to 20 and through several exp adjustments and none of them were that stellar... I mean WOOO! I can get 250 exp on a goat that takes 3 minutes and most of my MP to kill... yey.

I'm not sure when the last time you played was, but it might be worth giving it another shot. I decided to start a new character about a month ago, and I got levels 1 to 5 from soloing one tutorial leve. After soloing my first set of leves, I was rank 17.

There are folks on the forum boards talking about how they did one link on their first tutorial mission, and got their first 5 levels from one mob, and first 10 levels from one leve. Screenshot.

Levels 1 to 23 is incredibly fast now. You can do it in a few hours. So getting 30 in a week is definitely possible, even with fatigue. And even if you don't make it in a week, fatigue resets once per week, so you can definitely do it in two.
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I take it a lot of you have skipped the main story missions, or no one would be as confused as they are.

The Empire clearly invades Gridania during one of the first 5 or so missions, and one of your tasks is to help a nest of Sylphs to escape and save their seeds.

I'm sure this is a continuation of the invasion.


Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LateReg wrote:
The truth is, you can get to 34 in less than 5 days with minimal play time... I'm not saying you SHOULD do that, or that you're inferior in any way if you haven't yet; again, I'm JUST saying that it makes perfect sense as to why most people in this thread are confused.


You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.


I got my ARC from 1 to 32 in 5 days...they didn't triple SP since you last played...it's just you need to know how to SP in this game to make that happen. And if people don't take their time finding out, and just complain or w/e...not the people's fault who knows how it works. My ARC is 32 now...it will be 50 in around 3-4 weeks just by investing 2h every 36h. That makes a playtime of 8h a week...woopiedooh, that's pretty hardcore. /douchebad mode out

But seriously...ranking up in this game became so insanely easy now...(easy meaning fast here).
I could literally get 1 Battle Class from 1 to 50 each month(and I did with my CON, took 5 weeks to get it from 1 to 50), by doing nothing else then playing it for 2h every leve reset...that's just dumb. I hope as soon as more content comes and people actually have stuff to do during their lvl progress, that lvling will take way more time again as it did in XI back in 2003/4.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 2:28pm by Shezard
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Shezard wrote:
LateReg wrote:
I take it a lot of you have skipped the main story missions, or no one would be as confused as they are.

The Empire clearly invades Gridania during one of the first 5 or so missions, and one of your tasks is to help a nest of Sylphs to escape and save their seeds.

I'm sure this is a continuation of the invasion.


Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LateReg wrote:
The truth is, you can get to 34 in less than 5 days with minimal play time... I'm not saying you SHOULD do that, or that you're inferior in any way if you haven't yet; again, I'm JUST saying that it makes perfect sense as to why most people in this thread are confused.


You're whack. I played pretty hard for six months and never got a job above 33. I had a few in the twenties and two above 30 - but yeah. It is bogus to suggest that 5 days of "minimal" playtime = a job over 33.

Unless they have tripled exp since I last played.


I got my ARC from 1 to 32 in 5 days...they didn't triple SP since you last played...it's just you need to know how to SP in this game to make that happen. And if people don't take their time finding out, and just complain or w/e...not the people's fault who knows how it works. My ARC is 32 now...it will be 50 in around 3-4 weeks just by investing 2h every 36h. That makes a playtime of 8h a week...woopiedooh, that's pretty hardcore. /douchebad mode out

But seriously...ranking up in this game became so insanely easy now...(easy meaning fast here).
I could literally get 1 Battle Class from 1 to 50 each month(and I did with my CON, took 5 weeks to get it from 1 to 50), by doing nothing else then playing it for 2h every leve reset...that's just dumb. I hope as soon as more content comes and people actually have stuff to do during their lvl progress, that lvling will take way more time again as it did in XI back in 2003/4.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 2:28pm by Shezard


Perfect example of how you can level with minimal play time. I'm not crazy, people.

Also, 1-50 is easy now, but 1-50 was even easier in XI, so I think that when they raise the cap (hopefully to 75 for nostalgia's sake), achieving it will take just as long as it did in Zilart/CoP XI.
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#69 Apr 29 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
I'm with Olo, I refuse to fail things in order to progess. It ruins MY sense of achievement. I don't have any opinion of folks who are doing it, and honestly I don't blame them. My current classes are all leve and behest gained only with the exception of a few ranks on ALC from grinding shards when it was profitable.

I've spent countless hours doing things that DONT net SP. Like exploring and killing NMs from the last patch. I enjoyed myself immensely until people were ******** at me for soloing the NM and making repop take to long, then I'd walk and find another NM even if it dropped something I didn't want... until people showed up or we grouped up. There's no SP to be gained in those activities, but I bet I'm having more fun than some people.

I really hope the battle changes come soon AND that they encourage non-leve SP parties WITH strategy AND conversation. I'm really missing a large portion of my LS, I'd happily group with any of them on non-uber SP per hour camps just for the fun of it. Until (if) they come back, or on weekends when I can play at hours that see my shell more active, I'll be continuing on with my solo battle leves, crafting leves at a camp w/behest every cycle rotation I've been doing. It's slow, but it's steady and semi enjoyable.
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#70 Apr 29 2011 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I was around when they adjusted the exp to 20 and through several exp adjustments and none of them were that stellar... I mean WOOO! I can get 250 exp on a goat that takes 3 minutes and most of my MP to kill... yey.

I'm not sure when the last time you played was, but it might be worth giving it another shot. I decided to start a new character about a month ago, and I got levels 1 to 5 from soloing one tutorial leve. After soloing my first set of leves, I was rank 17.

There are folks on the forum boards talking about how they did one link on their first tutorial mission, and got their first 5 levels from one mob, and first 10 levels from one leve. Screenshot.

Levels 1 to 23 is incredibly fast now. You can do it in a few hours. So getting 30 in a week is definitely possible, even with fatigue. And even if you don't make it in a week, fatigue resets once per week, so you can definitely do it in two.


I played last night. My THM is 33.

I killed a goat, it took about a minute and I got 73 SP.

I have more than 30K SP left to get to the next level. So let's be generous and round up the SP I got from my goat to 100, and lets imagine I can chain those goats one after another and so kill each one in a minute without stopping or going batshit crazy from boredom

It would still take me five hours to get from where I am to 34. If I was playing two hours a night (which I wouldn't really call "minimal" playtime anyway, but whatever) It would take me 2.5 days just to get half of the level from 33-34.

No, I am not being the most efficient. Goats do suck for SP, sure. But I still call bull on the person that said you can go from 1-34 in five days with minimal playtime.

Maybe if you are in a static that links the best leves and purposely fails them every reset it is possible, sure. But for Joe Average that logs into a broken linkshell it isn't reasonable to suggest that it is easy to go from 1-34 in five days with minimal playtime.

Meanwhile, I am at level 66BST in XI, and my entire TNL is something like 25K, and things that melt in 10 seconds give me 120 exp.

And back in XIV I am bored to death and never gaining a level. Ugh.

I did a couple fishing leves last night and for a minute or two I thought "gee it would be nice to finally get FSH 30 so I can get the shiny underwear" and then I looked at my TNL... not going up even a smidgeon from the leve which only lets me get about 1.5K SP - with 10s of thousands more SP to go, and I said "f that".
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#71 Apr 29 2011 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
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I was around when they adjusted the exp to 20 and through several exp adjustments and none of them were that stellar... I mean WOOO! I can get 250 exp on a goat that takes 3 minutes and most of my MP to kill... yey.

I'm not sure when the last time you played was, but it might be worth giving it another shot. I decided to start a new character about a month ago, and I got levels 1 to 5 from soloing one tutorial leve. After soloing my first set of leves, I was rank 17.

There are folks on the forum boards talking about how they did one link on their first tutorial mission, and got their first 5 levels from one mob, and first 10 levels from one leve. Screenshot.

Levels 1 to 23 is incredibly fast now. You can do it in a few hours. So getting 30 in a week is definitely possible, even with fatigue. And even if you don't make it in a week, fatigue resets once per week, so you can definitely do it in two.


I played last night. My THM is 33.

I killed a goat, it took about a minute and I got 73 SP.

I have more than 30K SP left to get to the next level. So let's be generous and round up the SP I got from my goat to 100, and lets imagine I can chain those goats one after another and so kill each one in a minute without stopping or going batshit crazy from boredom

It would still take me five hours to get from where I am to 34. If I was playing two hours a night (which I wouldn't really call "minimal" playtime anyway, but whatever) It would take me 2.5 days just to get half of the level from 33-34.

No, I am not being the most efficient. Goats do suck for SP, sure. But I still call bull on the person that said you can go from 1-34 in five days with minimal playtime.

Maybe if you are in a static that links the best leves and purposely fails them every reset it is possible, sure. But for Joe Average that logs into a broken linkshell it isn't reasonable to suggest that it is easy to go from 1-34 in five days with minimal playtime.

Meanwhile, I am at level 66BST in XI, and my entire TNL is something like 25K, and things that melt in 10 seconds give me 120 exp.

And back in XIV I am bored to death and never gaining a level. Ugh.

I did a couple fishing leves last night and for a minute or two I thought "gee it would be nice to finally get FSH 30 so I can get the shiny underwear" and then I looked at my TNL... not going up even a smidgeon from the leve which only lets me get about 1.5K SP - with 10s of thousands more SP to go, and I said "f that".


Start on a Monday, all classes rank 1.

Join Rank 1 Behest two times, 1 hour. You'll be rank 10, maybe 11.

Spend the Next hour going to a rank 20 Behest. Join two in an hour, in between, kill Coblyns around Horizon. You should be at around rank 16~19 now depending on if your Behests were filled or not. I'm going to assume they were and put you at rank 18 now. This might take a little more grinding of Coblyns afterwards depending on your luck.

Log out.

Day 2, Join 4 behests in 2 hours at Horizon. Coblyns in between. You should be high enough to accept rank 30 leves now, rank 23. If you can, find 1 or 2 people to link leves at Horizon with you.

Log out.

Day 3, join a leve party that goes from Nanawa to Horizon to Nophica. That's around an hour and a half of play time, plus 30 minutes to find a party to do it.

Day 4, Now, depending on when your reset triggered day 3 you may or may not be able to do leves again on this day, if you can't... go to Cedarwood or Nophica and do 4 behests. You should at least be in the ~28 rank range at this point, at the start of this day. At the end, you should be at least Rank ~30 without having done leves, and just behests.

Day 5, You can most certainly do leves on this day. Find a group going from Nanawa to Horizon to Nophica again. You should be around rank 32 after.

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So I just wrote an easy guide on doing 1-32 in about 10~12 hours of total play time, starting from rank 1 with no other classes leveled, and no social connections whatsoever. If you put in, say 14~16 hours which I think most could do over 5 days, that rank 34 looks a whole lot easier, doesn't it? If you have other classes above rank 23 or 33, you can already have Broken Water AND rank 30s to do, so it'd probably take 2 leve resets total + Behests + minimal grinding on Coblyns at the start to get to about rank 35, even, in 5 days.
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Ugh, not worth arguing over. If I can't get from 33-34 in two hours when I am already halfway there I sure as heck am not going to get 28-34 in four hours.

You can believe what you want or exaggerate the impact of leves and behest all you want, but I've played this game a lot, and I am not going to agree with your estimates because they simply don't add up.

And nevermind that even if things were as fast as you are pretending they are (they aren't) - grinding tens of thousands of SP is still frigging boring... and I don't play games to be bored.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 3:32pm by Olorinus
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#73 Apr 29 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
I played last night. My THM is 33.

I killed a goat, it took about a minute and I got 73 SP.

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No, I am not being the most efficient. Goats do suck for SP, sure. But I still call bull on the person that said you can go from 1-34 in five days with minimal playtime.
[imitates car mechanic] "Well, there's your problem."

First of all, if you've only got a couple hours, you should not be grinding. Do leves and behest. They'll give you several times more SP per mob. Even soloing random leves at an easy level, you should get at least 35K per set of leves. And it will take you less than two hours.

Second, you're fighting a mob that's way below you in level, and that's terrible to grind on. Goats have lots of HP, take too long to kill, hit relatively hard, and if you're only getting 73 SP from them, you're need to move on to a higher level mob.

If you're going to grind -- and like I said, you shouldn't be grinding -- move away from the rank 20 camp, and fight something that's going to give you decent SP. At level 33, you should at least be at the rank 30 camps, if not rank 40. Go fight some Cassiopieas around Cass Hollow. Go hit some coblyns in Nanawa.

Just hitting one random, low level mob and claiming the SP sucks, is very specious reasoning.
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Because you're fighting the right mobs. There's really no disputing that leveling in FFXIV is much, much faster than FFXI. If you're leveling faster in FFXI, then you're not just being inefficient, you're not trying.
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And back in XIV I am bored to death and never gaining a level. Ugh.

I can't help you with that. If you're bored, then you should play XI.
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I did a Botany leve yesterday and got a De-aspectec crystal as a drop. Earlier a party member got a desapected crystal from a leve mob. They don't go to your crystal list but to your item list.

Anyone else got one?
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I did a Botany leve yesterday and got a De-aspectec crystal as a drop. Earlier a party member got a desapected crystal from a leve mob. They don't go to your crystal list but to your item list.

Anyone else got one?


Hmmm, that's interesting. Showing as a rare drop on YG, but no mention of what to do with it. Another section of the event still to come maybe?(It does go to May 9th)
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SO!

There's a GM popping up on servers talking about speaking the truth and passing out 10 min buffs, and a sandstorm is raging in thanalan with no music (lots of people reporting this now)

Something is definitely drawing near.

http://www.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13023

Credit to ^ for the GM info stuff.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 6:06pm by Theonehio
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SO!

There's a GM popping up on servers talking about speaking the truth and passing out 10 min buffs, and a sandstorm is raging in thanalan with no music (lots of people reporting this now)

Something is definitely drawing near.

http://www.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13023

Credit to ^ for the GM info stuff.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 6:06pm by Theonehio


oh hes an arcanist. well either they are finishing up some major battle changes (was stated several at once would happen, then more again at a later date) and are gonna release a class, or arent releasing a class and are just using spells and stuff that just werent implemented yet for hype. cool either way. maybe its a hint that THMs will get something with a little spice to wear for once.
either way, it just got me to log in.

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Maybe related to the whole impending doom thing, but around 4AMish pst i was walking from gridania to uldah. When I hit thanalan, the music stopped playing. At first I thought it might have been a bug but other people are reporting this as well...

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 10:30pm by dasquall
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Just got one of those deaspected crystals while logging grade 2 @ Skull Valley(non-leve). Brought down 2 wildfowl feathers, then along with that "Your loot list now contains a deaspected crystal". Hmm...
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Just got one of those deaspected crystals while logging grade 2 @ Skull Valley(non-leve). Brought down 2 wildfowl feathers, then along with that "Your loot list now contains a deaspected crystal". Hmm...

well whatevers going on its kinda fun to hear all these mysterious tidbits being found. i just hope they dont take a whole nother month to release whatever theyre advertising.
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Mistress Theonehio wrote:
SO!

There's a GM popping up on servers talking about speaking the truth and passing out 10 min buffs, and a sandstorm is raging in thanalan with no music (lots of people reporting this now)

Something is definitely drawing near.

http://www.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13023

Credit to ^ for the GM info stuff.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 6:06pm by Theonehio


Wow, that looks awesome. Wish they'd pop up on Selbina ; ;
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I got 2 of those Deaspected Crystals while mining in The Black Shroud. I feel slightly uncomfortable holding on to them, but still curious if they'll have any effect in-game.

As for the GM, do you guys think he/she may be giving a preview of the Arcanist class, or maybe he/she was playing the role of the "shady figure" that has been roaming camps spreading rumors? An Imperial agent spreading fear and unrest in our borders? We must destroy them all!

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LateReg wrote:
Mistress Theonehio wrote:
SO!

There's a GM popping up on servers talking about speaking the truth and passing out 10 min buffs, and a sandstorm is raging in thanalan with no music (lots of people reporting this now)

Something is definitely drawing near.

http://www.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13023

Credit to ^ for the GM info stuff.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 6:06pm by Theonehio


Wow, that looks awesome. Wish they'd pop up on Selbina ; ;


Yes seems like some great disaster in Hydaelyn will happen Thursday or Friday next week. Very exciting!
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insanekangaroo wrote:
LateReg wrote:
Mistress Theonehio wrote:
SO!

There's a GM popping up on servers talking about speaking the truth and passing out 10 min buffs, and a sandstorm is raging in thanalan with no music (lots of people reporting this now)

Something is definitely drawing near.

http://www.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13023

Credit to ^ for the GM info stuff.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 6:06pm by Theonehio


Wow, that looks awesome. Wish they'd pop up on Selbina ; ;


Yes seems like some great disaster in Hydaelyn will happen Thursday or Friday next week. Very exciting!


check it out
"With the odd rain and the mention of a flood followed by the arrival of the Archons, one thing seems certain: with the conclusion of Hatching-tide comes the Seventh Umbral Era. The Sixth Umbral era as stated above occurred about 1,500 years ago which is also the last recorded emergence of the Grand Companies.

Does this mean we’ll see an update after Hatching-tide ends on May 9th? Perhaps shortly after? Will the Archons arrive in Eorzea? And more importantly, will they be friendly? Given the connections between Grand Companies and the upcoming dungeons/raids, it seems possible that we could find ourselves fighting against the twelve Archons. And of course we cannot talk about this without mentioning Gridania. We’ve already heard that there are plans to re-design the Black Shroud, tying it into the lore of the world would be a great way to do it."

my god this is freaking awesome and i cant waaaiiit!!!

Edited, Apr 30th 2011 6:54am by pixelpop
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Ugh, not worth arguing over. If I can't get from 33-34 in two hours when I am already halfway there I sure as heck am not going to get 28-34 in four hours.

You can believe what you want or exaggerate the impact of leves and behest all you want, but I've played this game a lot, and I am not going to agree with your estimates because they simply don't add up.

And nevermind that even if things were as fast as you are pretending they are (they aren't) - grinding tens of thousands of SP is still frigging boring... and I don't play games to be bored.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 3:32pm by Olorinus


Are you just acting as ignorant or do you simply like denying facts? And BS like this is even rated "Good"...
Leve linking and intentionally failing is of course the key to grinding this fast(nobody ever said anything else), but how the @#%^ can you say he's exaggerating the impact of leves and behest when you obviously didn't even try it yet. I took my ARC to 14 just on griding mobs. on 14 I joined Horizon Behests. EACH Behest gave me at least 1 Rank if not more up to Rank 23...

Just a small frigging @#%^ing example for your ignorant denying mind. My ARC is 35 now. Leve linking Dunesfolk for Dinner 4-way plus Guardians Aspect gives you 1200SP!!!!!!!! for ONE MOB. The whole leve gives you around 15-20k SP, depending on how many Mongrels spawn from light pillars. The whole leve takes around 12-15min.

Second example...Same Camp, another Leve, Ranine Reveries. 4-way link + Guardians Aspect gives you 650-700SP PER MOB for groups of 3mobs each(so 1.8-2.1k per group) Average amount of groups killed before the leve ends is 10. Another 18-21k SP in around 15minutes, usually less.

These are just TWO out of SIX Leves you can do each reset netting all around the same amount of SP(12-20k/leve).
We are talking about 100kSP average EACH reset, just for playing 2h every 36h(4h in 3 days, which makes it 1h20min per day, which is not even nearly hardcore)

It's not worth arguing with you about these facts since you clearly don't even seem to understand how this works or even tried it yourself. You're just denying this exists and act as if peolpe are talking crap, although you are talking crap-_-

Edited, Apr 30th 2011 6:09pm by Shezard
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Shezard wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Ugh, not worth arguing over. If I can't get from 33-34 in two hours when I am already halfway there I sure as heck am not going to get 28-34 in four hours.

You can believe what you want or exaggerate the impact of leves and behest all you want, but I've played this game a lot, and I am not going to agree with your estimates because they simply don't add up.

And nevermind that even if things were as fast as you are pretending they are (they aren't) - grinding tens of thousands of SP is still frigging boring... and I don't play games to be bored.

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 3:32pm by Olorinus


Are you just acting as ignorant or do you simply like denying facts? And BS like this is even rated "Good"...
Leve linking and intentionally failing is of course the key to grinding this fast(nobody ever said anything else), but how the @#%^ can you say he's exaggerating the impact of leves and behest when you obviously didn't even try it yet. I took my ARC to 14 just on griding mobs. on 14 I joined Horizon Behests. EACH Behest gave me at least 1 Rank if not more up to Rank 23...

Just a small frigging @#%^ing example for your ignorant denying mind. My ARC is 35 now. Leve linking Dunesfolk for Dinner 4-way plus Guardians Aspect gives you 1200SP!!!!!!!! for ONE MOB. The whole leve gives you around 15-20k SP, depending on how many Mongrels spawn from light pillars. The whole leve takes around 12-15min.

Second example...Same Camp, another Leve, Ranine Reveries. 4-way link + Guardians Aspect gives you 650-700SP PER MOB for groups of 3mobs each(so 1.8-2.1k per group) Average amount of groups killed before the leve ends is 10. Another 18-21k SP in around 15minutes, usually less.

These are just TWO out of SIX Leves you can do each reset netting all around the same amount of SP(12-20k/leve).
We are talking about 100kSP average EACH reset, just for playing 2h every 36h(4h in 3 days, which makes it 1h20min per day, which is not even nearly hardcore)

It's not worth arguing with you about these facts since you clearly don't even seem to understand how this works or even tried it yourself. You're just denying this exists and act as if peolpe are talking crap, although you are talking crap-_-

Edited, Apr 30th 2011 6:09pm by Shezard

yeah no one explained to me why two or three people would randomly leave the battling toward the end and head back to the crystal.
although this is the best way to level right now, i always dissagreed with the leve system to begin with. this is because its not different than quest grinding in other games except this causes problems for developers (im pretty sure they dont want to give out 1200SP a mob knowing SE, its just how things are for them right now and i bet they hate it) and arguments between players.
the only positive side to quest grinding in other games is that it changes zones each level bracket, i havent left thanalan in months except for an occasional aesthetic change.

and before anyone says "so go do leves and side quests in _____" and i say no. how about SE make smaller more varied zones without zone lines... you know... open world?

Edited, Apr 30th 2011 4:23pm by pixelpop
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I'm not a fan of those 3 zones as well. I'd rather have the many but varyieing zones back like in XI. Different flaura and fauna etc.

Thanaln(desert), Black Shroud(Forest) and La Noscea(green meadows) are all nice and ****...but it's just not different enough for my taste. right now Coerthas and Mor Dhona are my favourite zones just because they look really "unique" and I don't go there every few min so I'm not overfed of those yet.
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Thsi NPC Alfgar just popped infront of me in Uldah near the fountain and started talking.

EDIT:

Hes gone now 0.o

Edited, Apr 30th 2011 2:21pm by Veagan
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Btw a mod at the official forums confirmed the missing music in various zones isnt a glitch and is related to the "dark times" ahead.

Hello! The events that have been occurring such as the music being absent from certain zones is intended and not a bug.

For more information about why this is occurring, please refer to the Lodestone site and the FFXIV Forums here. Perhaps this is portending to dark times to come...


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/8990-Music-stop-outside-of-Thanalan-when-come-out-of-Ul-dah?p=115603&viewfull=1#post115603

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You think they're permanently ditching Nobuos music in these zones?
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Oh! OH!
That's a jolly possibility I didn't realize up to now!
This whole Storm thing might be about creating a possibility to
free the game of Uematsu's horrible abominations and let him save
his face nonetheless! Well done, SE!
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That's a jolly possibility I didn't realize up to now!
This whole Storm thing might be about creating a possibility to
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his face nonetheless! Well done, SE!


...

Right. While I wouldn't go and just flat out say his work on this game was a "horrible abomination", I will say that Uematsu's work on Final Fantasy XIV wholly underwhelmed me in comparison to how well the musical composers and producers did with Final Fantasy XI after his departure from the game (I believe either after the core game's release, or Rise of the Zilart).

So I'm certainly not losing any sleep over the lesser amounts of Uematsu music in FFXIV at the moment, be it permanent or temporary. He should have never been given full rein of the musical composition of the game in the first place, regardless of the mystique that follows his name thanks to his history with the series prior to XII.

Then again, my favorite FF soundtrack was always the one by Iwata and Sakimoto, of Final Fantasy Tactics game, so I'm an odd duck.
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Thsi NPC Alfgar just popped infront of me in Uldah near the fountain and started talking.

EDIT:

Hes gone now 0.o

Edited, Apr 30th 2011 2:21pm by Veagan


He popped around 7:30 as well and now he is gone. Really strange but he mentioned "false prophets" appearing at the camp.
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the deaspected crystals could maybe be used to trap an element in them, it would explain at least in the story why the beast tribes have so many crystals...i foresee these crystals as a trade involving the beastmen in some shape or form.
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the deaspected crystals could maybe be used to trap an element in them, it would explain at least in the story why the beast tribes have so many crystals...i foresee these crystals as a trade involving the beastmen in some shape or form.


I think all you need to do is get another 2 ranks on your lancer and you'll know what causes the crystals like this.
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This whole Storm thing might be about creating a possibility to
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his face nonetheless! Well done, SE!

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALK FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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There's a GM popping up on servers talking about speaking the truth and passing out 10 min buffs, and a sandstorm is raging in thanalan with no music (lots of people reporting this now)

Something is definitely drawing near.

http://www.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13023

Credit to ^ for the GM info stuff.

I've also seen a new NPC in camp Horizon. She was standing under the tent and offered a task of some sort. I wanted to do that later but when I came back the NPC was gone. She was talking about the current events too.
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I played last night. My THM is 33.

I killed a goat, it took about a minute and I got 73 SP.

I have more than 30K SP left to get to the next level. So let's be generous and round up the SP I got from my goat to 100, and lets imagine I can chain those goats one after another and so kill each one in a minute without stopping or going batshit crazy from boredom


Olorinus -

Log in -> Go to Ul'dah -> Pick up your Battlecraft leves for Camp Broken Water and Hali'tali. Shout for a leve party, if you can't get one you can at the camp.

Arrive at Camp BW -> Get your party of 4 to 5 ready.

If you don't have a party, join behest (Every 30 min - gives good SP). If the rest of the behest party isn't psycho, ask them if they want to play with you.

Start running your leves at 1 star (I think 1 star should max dlvl multiplier if you are all low to mid 30s) -> remind fellow party members to link -> use your Guardian's Aspect

Get 300,500,800,1200 SP / kill depending on leve and # of links in your party

Kill things way faster than soloing

You'll certainly be 34 after a couple hours - if not after the first 2 to 3 leves (Dunes with a couple links can net you a quick 15k SP).

If you're on Lindblum I'd be happy to run some with you!



I actually stopped running leves because I was leveling too fast and I am trying not to outpace a buddy. So I've just been doing quests, hunting NMs, tracking down HQ mats I need, collecting easter egg hats, doin local leves for the areas I'm visiting, and general exploration which has been a lot of fun. I haven't done behest or battle leves in a couple weeks now and am rather enjoying myself. While you can theoretically rank up playing solo, I wouldn't recommend that approach. There's lots of other stuff you can do solo if you are just on for a lil while, but try to get some folks together for when you want to level up.

Edited, May 3rd 2011 5:57pm by NayliaMR
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Hugus wrote:
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the deaspected crystals could maybe be used to trap an element in them, it would explain at least in the story why the beast tribes have so many crystals...i foresee these crystals as a trade involving the beastmen in some shape or form.


I think all you need to do is get another 2 ranks on your lancer and you'll know what causes the crystals like this.


your probably right but i'm bored as **** with the game, so i'm playing something else right know.

if i had to make a guess i bet some kind of evil force depletes the crystal of its energy. which is very FF5ish.
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