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#1 Apr 29 2011 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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So if anyone is like me playing a game in anything but full screen is HIGHLY annoying. and the lack of an ability to Alt+tab in this game is very annoying, and playing in windowed mode just kills any chance of immersion you have.

If any of you have Steam, you are able to launch the game from steam, just add a nonsteam game, and in game you can shift+tab in order to get the steam overlay. It may not be as good as alt tab, but it does allow you to surf the net, chat with friends, and do minimal other things without having to download a windower or anything that could compromise your account.
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#2 Apr 29 2011 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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OddlerJiub wrote:
So if anyone is like me playing a game in anything but full screen is HIGHLY annoying. and the lack of an ability to Alt+tab in this game is very annoying, and playing in windowed mode just kills any chance of immersion you have.

If any of you have Steam, you are able to launch the game from steam, just add a nonsteam game, and in game you can shift+tab in order to get the steam overlay. It may not be as good as alt tab, but it does allow you to surf the net, chat with friends, and do minimal other things without having to download a windower or anything that could compromise your account.


This is one of the work-arounds available, there are also a few programs available that can take your windowed mode and place it into fullscreen. This isn't technically "true" fullscreen, but it at least helps people past the Alt+Tab issue, the program of choice I use is ShiftWindow. Now, people may get in a huff about "third party programs" and how they're detrimental to the gaming experience and other players and this is false. Although it still can be called a third party program, it does not directly interfere with the game itself, simply the windows border, and causes no disadvantages to other players.
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Well, XI was available to buy on Steam. And all steam games get the steam overlay, and SE did not have any issue with this. Therefore I think this can be considered an SE acceptable workaround.

If the game was originally sold on steam, I would of gotten it there. I love steam, and buy almost all my PC games exclusively off of it.
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#4 Apr 29 2011 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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OddlerJiub wrote:
Well, XI was available to buy on Steam. And all steam games get the steam overlay, and SE did not have any issue with this. Therefore I think this can be considered an SE acceptable workaround.

If the game was originally sold on steam, I would of gotten it there. I love steam, and buy almost all my PC games exclusively off of it.


I don't disagree, I just wanted to provide an alternative for those who don't use Steam.
#5 Apr 29 2011 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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is there a program that can put my windowed version full screen and also let me use my crossfire setup? because windowed makes it so only 1 of my graphics cards work.

also, when i switch it to full screen for some reason theres a distorted line across the screen about 2 inches high that goes all the way across the screen. i wouldnt mind not being able to alt+tab because i have a laptop, but you cant play with the distortion its to annoying.
#6 Apr 30 2011 at 12:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the little work-around!

Its crazy to think after how much grief SE got over the mistake of XI's alt-tab fiasco (and being fed some ******** about console equality or something) that they went in and made exactly the same thing occur in XIV. Look at that, a game released in 2010 for the PC that doesn't let you alt-tab!
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#8 May 04 2011 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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ShiftWindow is indeed a fantastic help, and it isn't like a windower program or anything. If you play the game in windowed mode (and option FFXIV Config allows), just set it to your native desktop resolution windowed (ie. 1680x1050, etc.) and ShiftWindow simply sets the window perimeters to simulate the effect of a full screen 'windowed' setting, aligning the window res with the monitor res so it hides the border portion of the window. It's very simple and helpful.
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#9 May 04 2011 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Somewhere I still have the FFXIV windower (v0.5, right before they got shut down by SE). Last time I checked it still did exactly what it needed to. Going to have to jump onboard ShiftWindow if I can't find that again.
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FFEvo windower

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FinalFanXIV wrote:
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FFEvo windower

google is your friend


If I google this, the first hit goes to a download site, where at the very bottom, suggests trying a craft bot. This is why Windower programs (specifically) are bad, they're designed to handle plug-in scripting that allows people to hack/bot/exploit the game.
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#12 May 05 2011 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
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I do hope they sort this one out. In this day and age, all MMo's I can think of have the option to alt+tab and SE seem so adamant to cling to their laurels on this.

I can handle windowed mode (im playing on a PC that seems to have come from the 5th moon of endor, powered by angels and the wishes of children) with 100% settings at max, but I like to have games fullscreen, mainly for emersion, and to avoid the "I am playing farmville" feeling.

It is a right pain in the ****.

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Ryneguy wrote:
FinalFanXIV wrote:
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FFEvo windower

google is your friend


If I google this, the first hit goes to a download site, where at the very bottom, suggests trying a craft bot. This is why Windower programs (specifically) are bad, they're designed to handle plug-in scripting that allows people to hack/bot/exploit the game.


Just because people exploit a program to use to hack does not indicate the program itself is bad. People exploit charities too, are charities now bad because a small fraction of a group is willing to take advantage of it?
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DeadKings wrote:
Ryneguy wrote:
FinalFanXIV wrote:
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FFEvo windower

google is your friend


If I google this, the first hit goes to a download site, where at the very bottom, suggests trying a craft bot. This is why Windower programs (specifically) are bad, they're designed to handle plug-in scripting that allows people to hack/bot/exploit the game.


Just because people exploit a program to use to hack does not indicate the program itself is bad. People exploit charities too, are charities now bad because a small fraction of a group is willing to take advantage of it?
It also would appear that their crafting bot is not a function of their windower. You can have your criticisms against botting crafts, fine, but I'm not convinced that an entirely separate program is worthy of generating the outrage against their windower.
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DeadKings wrote:
Just because people exploit a program to use to hack does not indicate the program itself is bad. People exploit charities too, are charities now bad because a small fraction of a group is willing to take advantage of it?


I fully understand that people will do what they will when given the opportunity, to both positive and negative ends. My point was that either the dev's of the program or at the very least the site distributing has an interest in botting as well, which is unnerving, IMO.

I mean, honestly, if I wanted a windower, I certainly wouldn't install the one downloaded from the site promoting a craft bot.

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Ryneguy wrote:
DeadKings wrote:
Just because people exploit a program to use to hack does not indicate the program itself is bad. People exploit charities too, are charities now bad because a small fraction of a group is willing to take advantage of it?


I fully understand that people will do what they will when given the opportunity, to both positive and negative ends. My point was that either the dev's of the program or at the very least the site distributing has an interest in botting as well, which is unnerving, IMO.

I mean, honestly, if I wanted a windower, I certainly wouldn't install the one downloaded from the site promoting a craft bot.

o.O



Totally understand, ShiftWindow is not like that however, google it and you will see, the program isn't developed for FF14, it's developed for programs in general to run them in a windowless fullscreen if they don't have one available, which is exactly FF14's problem.
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DeadKings wrote:
Ryneguy wrote:
DeadKings wrote:
Just because people exploit a program to use to hack does not indicate the program itself is bad. People exploit charities too, are charities now bad because a small fraction of a group is willing to take advantage of it?


I fully understand that people will do what they will when given the opportunity, to both positive and negative ends. My point was that either the dev's of the program or at the very least the site distributing has an interest in botting as well, which is unnerving, IMO.

I mean, honestly, if I wanted a windower, I certainly wouldn't install the one downloaded from the site promoting a craft bot.

o.O



Totally understand, ShiftWindow is not like that however, google it and you will see, the program isn't developed for FF14, it's developed for programs in general to run them in a windowless fullscreen if they don't have one available, which is exactly FF14's problem.


Oh, I use ShiftWindow, I was referring to the FFEvo windower that was mentioned. ShiftWindow is a godsend.
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