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#52 May 20 2011 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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For some reason this reminds me of the before and after pictures from way back about there being more monsters or their placement or something. The two pictures unified everyone in a universal version of WTF!?!

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#53 May 20 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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Materia
Class Uniqueness
Dungeons
Mounts
Auto Attack
Class Ranks
Beastmen
Quests
Auction House
Emnity Fix
Crowd Control
MP Changes
Job* specific Weapons and Armor
Achievements
Maybe Jump

If SE actually follows through with this, they'll have themselves a real game. Possibly even a good one.

Bravo!

EDIT* I think the absolute best thing SE can do right now is release some really meaty screenshots or a promotional video with all of this in it. Something to get people really excited and committed to waiting for.


Edited, May 20th 2011 5:47pm by Transmigration
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#54 May 20 2011 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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Shezard wrote:
LateReg wrote:
I really hope it does mean all this is done before summer starts like it says in bold, two times.

Summer 2011 starts on June 21st, by the way.

EDIT: Which would mean that all of the things listed in that chart would have to be implemented between this upcoming patch on the 23rd, and 1.18 in "mid-june".

Edited, May 20th 2011 8:49am by LateReg


Seriously...don't @#%^ing take every word so literal. He says UP UNTIL SUMMER. This itself includes every month from now til the END of summer to me.

I mean honestly, how obnoxiously high could your expectations be thinking all of this is coming in the next 4 weeks...


How f*cking miserable does one have to be to get upset over someone's optimism?
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#55 May 20 2011 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Materia?!?!?!?!??

I think I just had a tiny pee in my pants...

Oh my .... :explodes:




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clarkeyboy wrote:
Almalexia wrote:
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Materia?!?!?!?!??

I think I just had a tiny pee in my pants...

Oh my .... :explodes:

You don't even know what it does.

Oh, I see. The only way FFXIV can succeed now is by banking on FFVII fanboyism.


Neither do you, maybe it generates elitist, snide and snotty comments. No wait you already have that function, so that can't be it.

Sorry for getting excited over a game I am loving. Clearly humor is not your strong point.

My deepest apologies.

Prick.

I forgive you.

Also, please don't use the E-word. It hurts my feelings.

To keep this from getting scooped up by a mod, let me add that a "materia" system is a tentative name, and does not reveal anything at all about anything. Content from FF to FF is not always consistent, even when it seems it ought to be. Espers in FFXII are very different from Espers in FFVI, both in terms of world lore and game mechanics. The only commonality is that they can be used as summons. This would make the FFXIV equivalent of materia "spherical items players can use" in line with FFVII materia--hardly the pants-******** explode-worthy materia you are attributing to it, a belief which is clearly connected to a fascination with FFVII.

So don't freak out yet. If you didn't realize SE re-purposes things from games past, you must be a tremendous reason I just got a 24 hour mute.

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Edited, May 20th 2011 6:31pm by Kaolian


Things being in this case a 24 hour mute for a second offense.
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Almalexia wrote:
Oh, I see. The only way FFXIV can succeed now is by banking on FFVII fanboyism.
At this point they're just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.
Its a tentative name.
Yeah, that's the point.

"Uhhhh... Materia? They loved materia from FFVII, right? Let's do something with that. Just say the name is tentative and see how people react to it."
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#59 May 20 2011 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
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So does the bolded "up until summer" mean this is all intended for 1.18?

To me that phrasing means it's intended to take place prior to summer arriving. Though it may just be a translation thing and he meant "throught" summer.

It's all win, especially:


-NEW-
Mount system (name tentative) -NEW-
Examination of mount system (including chocobos) -NEW-
Establishment of details for mount system



I believe that this would be too much for 1 major update. My impression is that it will all be phased in by the middle of September or the end of Summer.
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This is pretty much everything that Yoshi-P promised us in December-January. I thank him for keeping is word. It gives me faith. I fully expect this to come in 2 major updates. Yoshi_P stated that the Battle System would be fixed first so I believe that will be in the first major update - probably in June. After all the bug <you know there will be bugs> are ironed out then we will see content added. I am guessing that this will be be prior to Labor Day. If it well received then I think we will start seeing references to the PS3 release date and the charging of subscription prices. As for commenting on individual parts of Yoshi-Ps letter.....well I guess that is for a different post at a different time.
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#61 May 21 2011 at 5:46 AM Rating: Good
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joel11683 wrote:
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when he bolded SUMMER of 2011 at the beginning I actually pulled out my calender to make sure we were in 2011. big check! yes this is going to be an awesome update.

Chocobos by the end of the year. Materia! Roaming beastman and beastman strongholds = MAJOR win. I was so in awe the first time I made it to Davoi/Monastic Cavern, it really gave me a super-spy feel like I was infiltrating some place dangerous. I love this addition.

Chocobos by the end of the year? 14 full months without Chocobo access? The sooner they're added the better. No reason at all why they couldn't be in game prior to this point already. Hopefully they come with the summer update.



Geeze! What's with all the idiots complaining about no Choco's at launch!?!?!?

In almost EVERY FF game you have NO access to freely ride Chocobo's until, at the EARLIEST, half way through the game!

Have none of you actually played all of the FF games? Or even ONE?

Don't get me wrong, I will welcome the implementation of Chocobo's once they arrive, but to say they should've been in at launch is like saying "FF7 would've been sooo much better if right at the beginning I could just leave Midgar, hop on a gold Chocobo and run the the North Cave to kill Sephiroth. The in-between stuff totally sucked anyway!"

Edited, May 20th 2011 2:51pm by joel11683


In FFIV i can ride chocobos at the start, so can i in FFV and FFVI, even in FFVII as soon as you get out of midgar, you ride a chocobo, **** even in FFIX you can ride a yellow chicken at the start .....

So what FF ******* have YOU been playing ?
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#62 May 21 2011 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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ummm I read the article, and read the forum posts here and some of you are talking about PS3 release.... but i didn't see that mentioned. Is this wishful thinking or was there a sly comment that indicated that the PS3 release will be happening soon?


In my opinion, the only way they could generate some income on this game is to release it on the PS3. That means fresh new reviews instead of disastrous ones, a new playerbase and people to put the game back on the map, provided that SE mends a lot of problems the game still has at the moment. But good press will go a long way for this game and will probably save it. The most logical choice would be a PS3 release, I dont think SE can do without it. Even though it's release is postponed indefinately at the moment, eventually FFXIV will see a release on the PS3 I recon, the only question is when?

There are a lot of people, including myself, that are watching from the sidelines, waiting patiently for a PS3 release. Here's hoping it comes soon!
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#63 May 21 2011 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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The way they word it in French is pretty much identical to the English version. "Jusqu'à l'été 2011" can't really be taken as encompassing the whole season either, any native French speaker would see it as "before summer starts". Hopefully it's not just bad grammar and they really have massive updates coming in June for us!
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The way they word it in French is pretty much identical to the English version. "Jusqu'à l'été 2011" can't really be taken as encompassing the whole season either, any native French speaker would see it as "before summer starts". Hopefully it's not just bad grammar and they really have massive updates coming in June for us!


Good to know!
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In FFIV i can ride chocobos at the start, so can i in FFV and FFVI, even in FFVII as soon as you get out of midgar, you ride a chocobo, **** even in FFIX you can ride a yellow chicken at the start .....

So what FF ******* have YOU been playing ?


I think you missed the key phrase in my statement, which was "to FREELY ride chocobos", meaning, not simply as a required mechanic to move the plot forward...this is applicable to "ALMOST every FF game". There are exceptions, like in 11 (after hitting lvl20 and receiving a lisence) and the tactics games (but those don't really count as FF games to me)...
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#66 May 21 2011 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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This time around, the list contains additions planned for up until summer 2011. You see what I did there with the bold font for emphasis? But anywho, without further ado, feast your eyes on the list in its entirety! (Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!)


Summer 2011 more than likely means the entire season. The last Producers letter that included the chart had quite a few people on the official forums and elsewhere clamoring for a time frame for said updates mentioned on the chart. I imagine he did this to clarify when you can actually expect to see the things on that list completed. While they are doing a heroic effort in overhauling the game, to see that entire list completed by June is preposterous. July and August are part of Summer 2011 as well, I imagine we'll see most if not all of it completed by Late July-Early August with some parts being completed early/late pending on how development and testing are progressing.

That being said I'm quite excited about the upcoming updates but be careful that you don't set the mark for them so high that they have no way of reaching it, thus setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Transmigration wrote:
Shezard wrote:
LateReg wrote:
I really hope it does mean all this is done before summer starts like it says in bold, two times.

Summer 2011 starts on June 21st, by the way.

EDIT: Which would mean that all of the things listed in that chart would have to be implemented between this upcoming patch on the 23rd, and 1.18 in "mid-june".

Edited, May 20th 2011 8:49am by LateReg


Seriously...don't @#%^ing take every word so literal. He says UP UNTIL SUMMER. This itself includes every month from now til the END of summer to me.

I mean honestly, how obnoxiously high could your expectations be thinking all of this is coming in the next 4 weeks...


How f*cking miserable does one have to be to get upset over someone's optimism?


This made me lolz. Do you actually read LateReg's post? lolz

PS: To contribute to the topic itself. The german Letter says "bis Sommer 2011" which implies til/including Summer! Still...to even think all of the mentioned stuff is gonna be in the planned June patch is just ridiculous.



Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:25pm by Shezard
#68 May 22 2011 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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of course all this wont be included in the June patch.
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Shezard wrote:
Transmigration wrote:
Shezard wrote:
LateReg wrote:
I really hope it does mean all this is done before summer starts like it says in bold, two times.

Summer 2011 starts on June 21st, by the way.

EDIT: Which would mean that all of the things listed in that chart would have to be implemented between this upcoming patch on the 23rd, and 1.18 in "mid-june".

Edited, May 20th 2011 8:49am by LateReg


Seriously...don't @#%^ing take every word so literal. He says UP UNTIL SUMMER. This itself includes every month from now til the END of summer to me.

I mean honestly, how obnoxiously high could your expectations be thinking all of this is coming in the next 4 weeks...


How f*cking miserable does one have to be to get upset over someone's optimism?


This made me lolz. Do you actually read LateReg's post? lolz

PS: To contribute to the topic itself. The german Letter says "bis Sommer 2011" which implies til/including Summer! Still...to even think all of the mentioned stuff is gonna be in the planned June patch is just ridiculous.



Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:25pm by Shezard


How is it ridiculous? It's not a lot considering how little we've actually gotten in 7 months.

I mean, there hasn't been so much as a new cutscene since launch... I find it really hard to believe that don't have content ready, and if they in all honesty don't, well... that's pretty sad.
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Shezard wrote:
PS: To contribute to the topic itself. The german Letter says "bis Sommer 2011" which implies til/including Summer! Still...to even think all of the mentioned stuff is gonna be in the planned June patch is just ridiculous.

Does the German version include an equivalent of "up until"? That seems to be the problem part. If the German just says "this summer" than that's pretty easy.
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Until summer means before september 1st :)
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Until summer means before september 1st :)


It's a matter of translation and cultural nuances.

If my boss told me I had until 2 p.m. to finish a task, I wouldn't stroll in his office at 2:59 and say "hey, you told me I had "until 2."

To me, through summer would have meant till around mid- to late September (if someone gives seasons as their schedule, I assume they're thinking solstices as the marks). That's why to me "until summer" means they plan to have this stuff implemented by mid- to late June.

And I don't think it's absurd to assume so. Yoshi-P has said several things to indicate such thinking; such as this is going to be the largest patch yet, that for the past several months they've had multiple teams working on varied content (much of which is waiting for the initial battle changes).

Either way, we're finally getting what we've been waiting for, and this community can finally start to form a definitive shape.

Ultimately, it was vague on purpose. If all this stuff is ready for 1.18, then the devs look like heroes because they delivered on a promise. If it's not, then they just come out and say that the plan never was for all of that to be ready that soon.

Edited, May 22nd 2011 4:00pm by Sephrick
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Sephrick wrote:
insanekangaroo wrote:
Until summer means before september 1st :)


It's a matter of translation and cultural nuances.

If my boss told me I had until 2 p.m. to finish a task, I wouldn't stroll in his office at 2:59 and say "hey, you told me I had "until 2."

To me, through summer would have meant till around mid- to late September (if someone gives seasons as their schedule, I assume they're thinking solstices as the marks). That's why to me "until summer" means they plan to have this stuff implemented by mid- to late June.

And I don't think it's absurd to assume so. Yoshi-P has said several things to indicate such thinking; such as this is going to be the largest patch yet, that for the past several months they've had multiple teams working on varied content (much of which is waiting for the initial battle changes).

Either way, we're finally getting what we've been waiting for, and this community can finally start to form a definitive shape.

Ultimately, it was vague on purpose. If all this stuff is ready for 1.18, then the devs look like heroes because they delivered on a promise. If it's not, then they just come out and say that the plan never was for all of that to be ready that soon.

Edited, May 22nd 2011 4:00pm by Sephrick

googd point dude, i really do wonder if this whole translation business was on purpose......
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#74elevencharle, Posted: May 22 2011 at 3:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing
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I'm willing to start fresh with a new main once they put some of these changes in place. I'm interested to see if they made any major changes to the magic mechanics. But I wonder, if they make some major changes to the war & magic system/jobs, I wonder how they're going to shoehorn in existing maxed out characters into the system? What if they collapse a few existing jobs into a new single job? Would they force a level wipe on existing characters?
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wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


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wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


So lets see: They changed the entire lead team, that team had to go back and redesign basic concepts from scratch that were unsatisfactory as well as fix current issues and add bits of content since the game was still up. And yes two patches have happened almost every month since then.

Do you honestly think after such a major shake up, they havent been constantly working on things/fixing current issues? Yes, it took awhile, but it wasnt going to happen overnight. Yes, everyone has been growing impatient, myself included...but the June patch and perhaps some of whatever we get tomorrow, which is split off from the June 1.18 patch, will be a bit of the fruits of their labor. Besides, the new team has explicitly stated there would not be any substantial content until the new battle system was implemented.

Edited, May 22nd 2011 11:56pm by Teknoman
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wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


I do and I don't understand how this got sub-d'd... I mean, nothing he really said was inaccurate :(

It is a little weird to rage so hard if you're not currently playing though. But the man did spend money to get the game, so he has some right at least.

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Also, as far as the implementation timeline goes, like I said in an earlier post... 「まで」 does mean "up until" or "right before" in Japanese. And, assuming Yoshi was the one to write the original Japanese letter (I'm fairly certain he was), I don't see how he could mess that up. He did bold it do death, so maybe he really was trying to make a point out of it. I'm really surprised that no mod on the official forums has gotten it cleared up :(

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:35am by LateReg
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Geeze! What's with all the idiots complaining about no Choco's at launch!?!?!?

In almost EVERY FF game you have NO access to freely ride Chocobo's until, at the EARLIEST, half way through the game!

Have none of you actually played all of the FF games? Or even ONE?

Don't get me wrong, I will welcome the implementation of Chocobo's once they arrive, but to say they should've been in at launch is like saying "FF7 would've been sooo much better if right at the beginning I could just leave Midgar, hop on a gold Chocobo and run the the North Cave to kill Sephiroth. The in-between stuff totally sucked anyway!"

Edited, May 20th 2011 2:51pm by joel11683


Actually, that's kinda like them releasing FF7 with no chocobos at all, only to have them somehow patch it in later on or send you a new FF7 disks new and improved with chocobos. How long did it take you to beat FF7? I'm pretty sure it didn't take over a year. You would therefor have played through the entire game for hours with no Chocobo.

They should have been in the game at launch with a quest to ride one at level 20 just like FFXI, just like every other MMO.
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LateReg wrote:
elevencharle wrote:
wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


I do and I don't understand how this got sub-d'd... I mean, nothing he really said was inaccurate :(

It is a little weird to rage so hard if you're not currently playing though. But the man did spend money to get the game, so he has some right at least.

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Also, as far as the implementation timeline goes, like I said in an earlier post... 「まで」 does mean "up until" or "right before" in Japanese. And, assuming Yoshi was the one to write the original Japanese letter (I'm fairly certain he was), I don't see how he could mess that up. He did bold it do death, so maybe he really was trying to make a point out of it. I'm really surprised that no mod on the official forums has gotten it cleared up :(

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:35am by LateReg



Nothing he said was inaccurate? How about the fact that we did get 2 patches in a month? How about the fact that a LOT actually changed in FFXIV since launch?

How about the fact that it is ridiculous to assume all of the planned stuff is gonna be in the june patch, since you actually admit yourself that there hasn't been happening much in the last 7 months(which is not true but meh...)? But after 7 months of nothing happening(your opinion...) you expect all of this to come in 4 weeks? By now I'm just convinced you're incapable of reasonable thinking when it comes to timelines and patch content. I mean, what the **** do you expect? This game has no chance until the game itself is fixed. It's obvious they can't throw out content like it happens in FFXI, cause they actually have to fix the whole game from scratch, which doesn't leave much room for content. Plus...what content would be any good, if the core mechanic that's used in it is gonna be changed/overhauled etc anyway? That's just double the work and will end up in delaying other stuff to come even more, so just think for a second, instead of being blinded of your own disappointment. They are doing a good job so far with getting the game where it should have been at release, so either just be patient, or ******* leave and come back later.
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elevencharle wrote:
wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


I do and I don't understand how this got sub-d'd... I mean, nothing he really said was inaccurate :(

It is a little weird to rage so hard if you're not currently playing though. But the man did spend money to get the game, so he has some right at least.

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Also, as far as the implementation timeline goes, like I said in an earlier post... 「まで」 does mean "up until" or "right before" in Japanese. And, assuming Yoshi was the one to write the original Japanese letter (I'm fairly certain he was), I don't see how he could mess that up. He did bold it do death, so maybe he really was trying to make a point out of it. I'm really surprised that no mod on the official forums has gotten it cleared up :(

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:35am by LateReg



Nothing he said was inaccurate? How about the fact that we did get 2 patches in a month? How about the fact that a LOT actually changed in FFXIV since launch?

How about the fact that it is ridiculous to assume all of the planned stuff is gonna be in the june patch, since you actually admit yourself that there hasn't been happening much in the last 7 months(which is not true but meh...)? But after 7 months of nothing happening(your opinion...) you expect all of this to come in 4 weeks? By now I'm just convinced you're incapable of reasonable thinking when it comes to timelines and patch content. I mean, what the **** do you expect? This game has no chance until the game itself is fixed. It's obvious they can't throw out content like it happens in FFXI, cause they actually have to fix the whole game from scratch, which doesn't leave much room for content. Plus...what content would be any good, if the core mechanic that's used in it is gonna be changed/overhauled etc anyway? That's just double the work and will end up in delaying other stuff to come even more, so just think for a second, instead of being blinded of your own disappointment. They are doing a good job so far with getting the game where it should have been at release, so either just be patient, or @#%^ing leave and come back later.


Dude, NOT A LOT has happened in the last 7 months, it's only really been in the last 2 months that changes of merit have really started to appear. the OP can complain in that matter because - technically - it's true (in his or her opinion, whether you agree or not). The double update schedule was promised and hasn't really been a constant, the content updates have been fairly mild, I think of it more like a logarhythmic curve, the longer time passes the better the updates will be. I think your rage post is a bit unfounded tbh. Kudos to defending the game, but defend it with reason - no?

As for Late Reg thinking this update will all happen in June I have to admit I'm sitting in that camp myself. Yoshi-P has already explained that there are several teams all working horizontally at new content and we haven't had anything from the Battle Team since the new team took over so they've had months to get this implimented and tested and I think it's going to come in one big phat thank you in June.

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#82 May 23 2011 at 5:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Shezard wrote:
LateReg wrote:
elevencharle wrote:
wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


I do and I don't understand how this got sub-d'd... I mean, nothing he really said was inaccurate :(

It is a little weird to rage so hard if you're not currently playing though. But the man did spend money to get the game, so he has some right at least.

EDIT:

Also, as far as the implementation timeline goes, like I said in an earlier post... 「まで」 does mean "up until" or "right before" in Japanese. And, assuming Yoshi was the one to write the original Japanese letter (I'm fairly certain he was), I don't see how he could mess that up. He did bold it do death, so maybe he really was trying to make a point out of it. I'm really surprised that no mod on the official forums has gotten it cleared up :(

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:35am by LateReg



Nothing he said was inaccurate? How about the fact that we did get 2 patches in a month? How about the fact that a LOT actually changed in FFXIV since launch?

How about the fact that it is ridiculous to assume all of the planned stuff is gonna be in the june patch, since you actually admit yourself that there hasn't been happening much in the last 7 months(which is not true but meh...)? But after 7 months of nothing happening(your opinion...) you expect all of this to come in 4 weeks? By now I'm just convinced you're incapable of reasonable thinking when it comes to timelines and patch content. I mean, what the **** do you expect? This game has no chance until the game itself is fixed. It's obvious they can't throw out content like it happens in FFXI, cause they actually have to fix the whole game from scratch, which doesn't leave much room for content. Plus...what content would be any good, if the core mechanic that's used in it is gonna be changed/overhauled etc anyway? That's just double the work and will end up in delaying other stuff to come even more, so just think for a second, instead of being blinded of your own disappointment. They are doing a good job so far with getting the game where it should have been at release, so either just be patient, or @#%^ing leave and come back later.


No idea what I said to make you so angry.

What Solomon said basically reflects how I feel. Sure they sort of have been keeping up with 2 patches a month (despite quake issues, etc.), but I think I speak for a majority of the active player base when I say that it feels like they're taking really small things that they might've already had ready for every x.xxA patch, removing them, and throwing them into a x.xxB patch just to back up their promise of doing 2 patches a month. It almost feels like a lie.

But, I'm patiently waiting for the mid-June patch, and I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if all the stuff on that list was in the game by that time. I mean, we did get 2 patches (one of which was unscheduled) a couple months ago that were 300mb each, and at that same time, we got no new content, or at least none that would take up 600mb, let's be real. So maybe (likely) stuff is tucked away in those, in combination with things they've possibly been saving up for.

We shall see!
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when we get Letter from the Producer XIV! maybe we'll have a finished game.
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when we get Letter from the Producer XIV! maybe we'll have a finished game.


MMOs are never finished, they are ever evolving ;)

But when we get Letter XIV I hope we have a good game.
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#85 May 23 2011 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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This was posted on the official forums by Community Rep Bayohne.

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To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!


Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:36pm by TerraSonicX
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#86 May 23 2011 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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This was posted on the official forums by Community Rep Bayohne.

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To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!


Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:36pm by TerraSonicX


What I said. Before Sept. 1st.
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#87 May 23 2011 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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If they want to stretch it out, Summer doesn't end until late Sept I think.
#88 May 23 2011 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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insanekangaroo wrote:
TerraSonicX wrote:
This was posted on the official forums by Community Rep Bayohne.

Bayohne's post
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To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!


Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:36pm by TerraSonicX


What I said. Before Sept. 1st.


Technically, summer ends Sept. 23.
#89 May 23 2011 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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Sephrick wrote:
insanekangaroo wrote:
TerraSonicX wrote:
This was posted on the official forums by Community Rep Bayohne.

Bayohne's post
Quote:
To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!


Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:36pm by TerraSonicX


What I said. Before Sept. 1st.


Technically, summer ends Sept. 23.

Aren't Japan's seasons on a different timeline thought? Like for them late May is like the start of spring I think, while the US spring ends in June.
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XenoKrates wrote:
Sephrick wrote:
insanekangaroo wrote:
TerraSonicX wrote:
This was posted on the official forums by Community Rep Bayohne.

Bayohne's post
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To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!


Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:36pm by TerraSonicX


What I said. Before Sept. 1st.


Technically, summer ends Sept. 23.

Aren't Japan's seasons on a different timeline thought? Like for them late May is like the start of spring I think, while the US spring ends in June.

hmm good question, it was to my understanding (but not that i ever read up on it) that the seasons arent up to regional opinion, but that they are sort of universally scientifically agreed upon... **** if i know though.
oh and i think not all places have 4 seasons, i think alot of places only have 2 for some reason.

Edited, May 23rd 2011 4:16pm by pixelpop
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XenoKrates wrote:

Aren't Japan's seasons on a different timeline thought? Like for them late May is like the start of spring I think, while the US spring ends in June.


Nope, it's the same timeline as other countries in the Northern Hemisphere. Actually it's the same across the world except in the Southern Hemisphere the actual season is different. When it hits June 21st in the NH it's Summer, whereas it's Winter in the SH.
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TerraSonicX wrote:
XenoKrates wrote:

Aren't Japan's seasons on a different timeline thought? Like for them late May is like the start of spring I think, while the US spring ends in June.


Nope, it's the same timeline as other countries in the Northern Hemisphere. Actually it's the same across the world except in the Southern Hemisphere the actual season is different. When it hits June 21st in the NH it's Summer, whereas it's Winter in the SH.

Ah, thanks.
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LET ME RAISE A CHOCOBO! :D

im so excited!


TEACH US HOW TO BLITZ!!
#94 May 23 2011 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
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insanekangaroo wrote:
TerraSonicX wrote:
This was posted on the official forums by Community Rep Bayohne.

Bayohne's post
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To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!


Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:36pm by TerraSonicX


What I said. Before Sept. 1st.


You might've said it, but that doesn't mean you were correct at the time given the wording that was used. As someone on the official forums said, if they meant until the end of summer, they would have said "up until September", but instead they chose to use tricky wording in true SE fashion. They did this in all the languages, it wasn't a mistake.

Really just seems like they were trying to sugarcoat and got caught.
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It does seem rather lame that they go to all that trouble to bold up until summer when that is clearly NOT what they meant. You'd think with all of the issues they've had with this game that they'd want to be as clear and accurate as possible with these things so as not to **** off the few remaining fans they have.

Oh well, I never really expected to see ALL of that in June. I mean, let's be honest... since the new team has taken over, the largest patches have addressed only minimal changes or simple UI overhauls. Seems pretty crazy that they would be able to implement an entirely new battle system, dungeons, the job system, etc etc. in 1 patch.
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#96Jennestia, Posted: May 24 2011 at 9:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ah the English language, the only language that can spark a debate on wording use.
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Its not so much the language, its the phrasing. Until summer is an incomplete statement, but in north america, until summer implies until summer starts. In japan, their meaning behind 'until summer' may include summer.

Either way, I still in no way expect all that done before september.
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Ah the English language, the only language that can spark a debate on wording use.


wrong
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LateReg wrote:
Shezard wrote:
LateReg wrote:
elevencharle wrote:
wow they are still trying to save this game? seems to me its more of an experiment to see how long people will follow there lines of bull before figuring out none of it is true or actually going to happen. last time i checked they said they were going to do 2 updates a month and from whet i have read "which is not much" that has not even happened once. im glad i quit when i did but maybe by 2013 or so this game might be worth logging into since it will still be free to play, might have a cash shop by then but would probably take 20 mins to load so no one would even use it. the only potential i see everyone talking about with this game is it taking way to long to be worth playing

i see nothing has changed no one can think of a reason why i am wrong so everyone just rates me down.. keep wishing for your game to be great while i play games that are fun. ill be back in a few months to check up and laugh once again

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:33pm by elevencharle

Edited, May 22nd 2011 5:49pm by elevencharle


I do and I don't understand how this got sub-d'd... I mean, nothing he really said was inaccurate :(

It is a little weird to rage so hard if you're not currently playing though. But the man did spend money to get the game, so he has some right at least.

EDIT:

Also, as far as the implementation timeline goes, like I said in an earlier post... 「まで」 does mean "up until" or "right before" in Japanese. And, assuming Yoshi was the one to write the original Japanese letter (I'm fairly certain he was), I don't see how he could mess that up. He did bold it do death, so maybe he really was trying to make a point out of it. I'm really surprised that no mod on the official forums has gotten it cleared up :(

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:35am by LateReg



Nothing he said was inaccurate? How about the fact that we did get 2 patches in a month? How about the fact that a LOT actually changed in FFXIV since launch?

How about the fact that it is ridiculous to assume all of the planned stuff is gonna be in the june patch, since you actually admit yourself that there hasn't been happening much in the last 7 months(which is not true but meh...)? But after 7 months of nothing happening(your opinion...) you expect all of this to come in 4 weeks? By now I'm just convinced you're incapable of reasonable thinking when it comes to timelines and patch content. I mean, what the **** do you expect? This game has no chance until the game itself is fixed. It's obvious they can't throw out content like it happens in FFXI, cause they actually have to fix the whole game from scratch, which doesn't leave much room for content. Plus...what content would be any good, if the core mechanic that's used in it is gonna be changed/overhauled etc anyway? That's just double the work and will end up in delaying other stuff to come even more, so just think for a second, instead of being blinded of your own disappointment. They are doing a good job so far with getting the game where it should have been at release, so either just be patient, or @#%^ing leave and come back later.


No idea what I said to make you so angry.

But, I'm patiently waiting for the mid-June patch, and I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if all the stuff on that list was in the game by that time.

We shall see!


This is what makes me angry reading your crap... over and over again. You're giving yourself tmielines SE never approved to fulfill and then be all disappointed when your expectations weren't fulfilled. At the same time you say you're patiently waiting, when in fact you are complaining over and over again about the same **** EVERYBODY knows is ****, but SE is working on it. I think by now SE pretty much made clear they know they released **** and they are working on all the stuff that people think is crap and they are getting there step by step, but you are just completely ignorant to see that they are on the way there and still complain about the same **** over and over.

You just sound like a record that is stuck and it really doesn't matter what SE says or does, it will go on and on and on.

PS: I said that the german version said "bis Sommer 2011" which in fact does include summer itself. But I guess the english version is the only one that counts <.<
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Ah the English language, the only language that can spark a debate on wording use.


wrong

I think you mean "incorrect."
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Almalexia wrote:
insanekangaroo wrote:
Jennestia wrote:
Ah the English language, the only language that can spark a debate on wording use.


wrong

I think you mean "incorrect."


That statement is erroneous.
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