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#1 May 20 2011 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default

Hey All,

With the news today of all the approaching additions, do you think that once they all go live that FFXIV's beta stage will finally be over?

with everything they have planned in place will you be happy to pay the monthly subsciption or is more work needed?
#2 May 20 2011 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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For me that depends on how smooth the UI is and how satisfying the battle changes are.
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#3 May 20 2011 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Until they say anything about the billing, I am going to assume that it will not start until the PS3 release... But it's all an assumption anyways.
#4 May 20 2011 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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To be fair, I think I'd pay for it now. £9 a month, that's a few beers down the pub.

Not alot to push the game on with what it needs.

I know a lot of people wouldn't yet though!!! That's cool.

By the sound of Yoshi's post, there's going to be something big happening in Summer. That's either the coming danger actually turning up, an expansion, PS3 release, charging starts, or all of them together. **** we might even get Airships and chocobos.

All I want for xmas is a BLU mage. With a fancy hat, big sh*tting sword and some more deadly NMs to go hunt.

Plus, if anyone noticed, they're killing surplus. WOoooooo
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#6 May 20 2011 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
okey dokey maybe my OP was a bit subjective, my apologies for that.

Instead do you think that SE will think they have done enough to consider begining billing after everything announced over the last few days has been implemented?
#7 May 20 2011 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmm I think introing BLU as a job class is doable, but your pushing your luck if you want a fancy hat and a big Sh*tting Sword to go with it. next you'll be asking for the moon on a stick!
#8 May 20 2011 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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FlogginaDeadHorse wrote:
Hmmm I think introing BLU as a job class is doable, but your pushing your luck if you want a fancy hat and a big Sh*tting Sword to go with it. next you'll be asking for the moon on a stick!

Yeah, that's reserved for my smn!
#9 May 20 2011 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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FlogginaDeadHorse wrote:
okey dokey maybe my OP was a bit subjective, my apologies for that.

Instead do you think that SE will think they have done enough to consider begining billing after everything announced over the last few days has been implemented?


I don't think that is enough, and I don't think that SE feels its enough either. There's no point in rushing it now, if they're really thinking this is going to be a sustainable project, there is more money to be made in having more people down the road, than less people but cash now. They should wait until they start regaining players and seeing large populations logging in daily before they charge, and not just charging as soon as the current player base is getting happy.
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#10 May 20 2011 at 5:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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SE gets my money as soon as I can play Bard and Shepherd.

"Pastoral Poet" class for the win!
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#11 May 20 2011 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
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i wish they had a donation link "save ffxiv" or someting. id totally pay a few months to add to the money they are currently investing in the game.

besides. my $50 in crysta is just sitting there collecting dust anyway
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#12 May 20 2011 at 9:27 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think the June update is really going to be all that huge. I'm sure yoshi-p is also expecting to hammer out the new battle mechanics over the course of 2-3 months. The very latest i'd say we can expect to pay by the games 1st anniversary.
#13 May 21 2011 at 11:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have a feeling that no matter how good they get it to be, lots of people will leave as soon as they start billing.
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#14 May 21 2011 at 12:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Scape13 wrote:
I have a feeling that no matter how good they get it to be, lots of people will leave as soon as they start billing.


And, hopefully, lots who already bought the game will also come back. Why wouldn't you try a "fixed" version of the game you ran out and spent full price on in the first place?
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#15 May 21 2011 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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If they had it out for PS3 I would have already been playing. Maybe I'm the minority, but I've wanted to be in the game all this time. My poor PC just can't handle the awesome.
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#16 May 21 2011 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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If they had it out for PS3 I would have already been playing. Maybe I'm the minority, but I've wanted to be in the game all this time. My poor PC just can't handle the awesome.


Ditto!
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#17 May 21 2011 at 3:37 PM Rating: Good
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KaneKitty wrote:
Scape13 wrote:
I have a feeling that no matter how good they get it to be, lots of people will leave as soon as they start billing.


And, hopefully, lots who already bought the game will also come back. Why wouldn't you try a "fixed" version of the game you ran out and spent full price on in the first place?


Heres what I'm hoping is going to happen. They decide they're happy with it, and announce they're going to start charging in 30 or 60 days, and then contact everyone who had created an account letting them know that its time to see the changes and if they like it, they can pay to keep going.

What I worry is that someone at SE is inept enough to start billing at the same time as the "we're done fixing things patch", because I know I for one, am skeptical enough to not pay to see it.
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#18 May 21 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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It'd be suicide if FFXIV didn't have at least SOME kind of presence at E3 next month, so I fully expect them to have a couple of PS3 demos running perhaps? The game is edging towards "completion", and now would be a good time to start the hype wagon
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#19 May 21 2011 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
ReiThor wrote:
If they had it out for PS3 I would have already been playing. Maybe I'm the minority, but I've wanted to be in the game all this time. My poor PC just can't handle the awesome.


I feel ya bro. I've been checking in on this forum about once a week to see if there is any news on the PS3 version. I'm not gonna lie, I was severely depressed after last week's "Happy Friday!" thread... Cuz I was so excited!
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#20 May 22 2011 at 5:15 AM Rating: Good
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i wish they had a donation link "save ffxiv" or someting. id totally pay a few months to add to the money they are currently investing in the game.

besides. my $50 in crysta is just sitting there collecting dust anyway



Ditto!
Brilliant idea, I'd donate as well.
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#21 May 22 2011 at 5:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have to be honest, I think the extended free play is doing as much damage as if they did start charging. If you give something away long enough it devalues the product to the point of it being hard to justify paying for it, the bar will be so high when they do charge almost nothing they can do will convince the majority of people to pay for it anymore.
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#22 May 22 2011 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to be honest, I think the extended free play is doing as much damage as if they did start charging. If you give something away long enough it devalues the product to the point of it being hard to justify paying for it, the bar will be so high when they do charge almost nothing they can do will convince the majority of people to pay for it anymore.
^I agree, yet I'm pretty sure most people is not ready for charges, matter of fact if they start charging I will cancel right away.

SE should keep track of few things, for example how many FFXI accounts were canceled before FFXIV and have been reactivated in the last months, all those people already spending hours in XI won't suddenly think "Hey! XIV is ready, let's go back!"

PS3 launch is the last ace they have, and it better be played masterfully cuz it won't matter how wonderful the game becomes if nobody is willing to give it a chance anymore.

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#23 May 23 2011 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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PS3 launch is the last ace they have, and it better be played masterfully cuz it won't matter how wonderful the game becomes if nobody is willing to give it a chance anymore.


If anything this long of it being free shows they have given up completely on the PC version, the devaluing it does to the product and the playerbase is immense. No matter how bad the game is/was they would of never had it free for so long if it was a pc only mmo. They are basically using it as a beta platform, PS3 will be everything for this game now. I personally don't think recoving the amount of money they dished out on FF14 can ever be successful in an (at best) mainly PS3/JP MMO but we will see what they manage to do with it.

As you said, if the PS3 launch isn't godlike they will be done. Sadly this will mean they will be gun shy of releasing the PS3 version till it's "ready" and in such a situation with so much at stake it will never really be ready. Ps3 release will be delayed for a long long time still.
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#24 May 23 2011 at 1:08 AM Rating: Default
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It doesn't matter how much money they are losing on FFXIV. This game was not in production long enough and is a year or two away from actually being ready. They are not losing money in this game, it was their fault for releasing early. Imagine as if it was never released and is still currently being invested in and you will see the game isn't a problem for the company.
#25 May 23 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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Imaboomer wrote:
It doesn't matter how much money they are losing on FFXIV. This game was not in production long enough and is a year or two away from actually being ready. They are not losing money in this game, it was their fault for releasing early. Imagine as if it was never released and is still currently being invested in and you will see the game isn't a problem for the company.

That's true, except two caveats make it a mistake: First, there is some cost to support, although I imagine that might not be a terribly overwhelming cost given how small the population of players is; and second, at the moment they are probably spending money on something they know can't succeed. The launch was just so disastrous that it would take a miracle for people to flock back to this game.

Which is perhaps the point--maybe they knew they had a dud on their hands, and wanted to see just how many people would play it before they invest years more of development into it. They have their answer, and we have their updates--lackluster. They clearly do not have a big development studio generating content. We're getting updates that are underwhelming by F2P Facebook RPG standards.

Imagine if they had spent millions more generating more and more cutscenes, hiring more voice actors, and getting super-fast servers, and it tanked just as badly as it did. We'd be looking at an SE deeper in the hole.

Maybe they made the right call. "This project is costing a lot, let's actually test the waters and see if anyone wants to play a new JRPG MMO before we sink millions more into it." Clearly, people don't want to. ****, it's hard getting Americans to play a pretty well-polished, user-friendly, pretty MMO like Aion. Rift is supposedly doing well, but I'm not convinced it's viable in the longterm. SE might be realizing that the MMO market, which perhaps 3 years ago seemed like a guaranteed cash cow, is hard to enter with a new product, and what players demand from an MMO isn't what SE is used to providing in its newer titles. I suspect this is why they aborted FFXIV's development and put it on minimal life-support. Right now they're just trying to sell whatever remaining units they have and keep the small playerbase marginally happy with small updates. My prediction is that we never see a PS3 release.
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#26 May 24 2011 at 9:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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KaneKitty wrote:
Scape13 wrote:
I have a feeling that no matter how good they get it to be, lots of people will leave as soon as they start billing.


And, hopefully, lots who already bought the game will also come back. Why wouldn't you try a "fixed" version of the game you ran out and spent full price on in the first place?


Because there are plenty of great games you've moved onto?
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SinDariusDaishiGajo wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
Scape13 wrote:
I have a feeling that no matter how good they get it to be, lots of people will leave as soon as they start billing.


And, hopefully, lots who already bought the game will also come back. Why wouldn't you try a "fixed" version of the game you ran out and spent full price on in the first place?


Because there are plenty of great games you've moved onto?


So you're saying if they completely revamp a game that you had a vested interest in when it came out, you wouldn't give it another shot? I was in that camp for quite a while, but seeing the massive changes that are in store has got me interested again. I'm just curious if you're going to avoid it out of spite or if there's some ulterior motive?
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