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#1 May 25 2011 at 2:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Square Enix is readying a new large scale Massively Multiplayer Online title to be announced some time this fiscal year. CEO Yoichi Wada made brief mention of this new game during a May 13 earnings briefing. A full transcript of the briefing was posted today at the company's IR page.

According to Wada, Square Enix hopes aims to operate two to three large scale MMO titles simultaneously, a target it feels will allow it to have stable cash flow. The company is developing one more title in addition to Final Fantasy XIV, and Wada hopes to announce the game during the fiscal year.

Wada also made note of the problems faced by FFXIV, saying the game will take a bit more time, but they're at the point where they can see the target.


http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/25/square_enix_mmo/

Lets hope they have learned from their mistakes this time.

Edited, May 25th 2011 4:15am by Kayako
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#2 May 25 2011 at 2:30 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for sharing.
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Here's hoping it's not another Fantasy Earth Zero or something BS.

Ivalice Online, go.
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Ivalice Online...


It just wouldn't be right without Matsuno on the team, though.
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#5 May 25 2011 at 3:07 AM Rating: Default
another nail in the SE coffin

lets hope bioware picks up the Final Fantasy License once SE goes bankrupt
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They can see the target? Because I sure as **** can't see anything come peak JP time at Camp Brokenwater!

Edited, May 25th 2011 5:50am by Riniaru
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Because after sinking tens of millions of dollars into an incredibly underdeveloped MMO and scrambling to salvage it, you would want another project to take up even more of your time and money...

Another sound business decision brought to you by the fine folks at Square Enix.
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#8 May 25 2011 at 5:02 AM Rating: Good
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I literally don't know what to think....
Is this a joke?
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#9 May 25 2011 at 5:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Nah, this *must* be a joke.
They barely manage to keep XIV afloat.
Why would they kill it off with...

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NO JOKE.

I just read the respective passage at the SE homepage.
It's actually true. They are preparing for the announcement
of another MMORPG within year's time.

(...)

Wada's gone crazy, or what?!
#10 May 25 2011 at 5:28 AM Rating: Good
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If this is real, Dragon Quest online any one? I think, if they did it right, japan would eat it up. But then again this is the same company that let FFXIV come out in the stat it was in.
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This is a joke, right? It has to be a joke, they wouldn't seriously be dumb enough to start on ANOTHER MMO before they've even made back the development costs of this one, right? Right? Right?

WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE SAY THAT THIS IS A JOKE AND I HAVE JUST BEEN EPICALLY TROLLED? I don't care if it's a blatant lie, I simply DO NOT have enough alcohol in my house to deal with the truth right now.

Edited, May 25th 2011 7:49am by RajiFarlander
#12 May 25 2011 at 5:50 AM Rating: Good
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Haha! You had me! Great happy Friday thread!!! ...Oh wait it's wednesday.... Wtf?!
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#13 May 25 2011 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
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If this is real, Dragon Quest online any one? I think, if they did it right, japan would eat it up. But then again this is the same company that let FFXIV come out in the stat it was in.



This. If they make a MMO DQ game, no matter how terrible, Japan would shut down. The whole country would be turned into a Matrix-like situation, with the matrix being Dragon Quest online.
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What does SNS stand for in:
"Focus on SNS and Smartphone Gaming"?



Edited, May 25th 2011 8:35am by MrTalos
#15 May 25 2011 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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Again, no, the translation of the original japanese article (here: http://www.square-enix.com/jpn/ir/library/docs/110513/page06.html )is correct. Also, even if it was a Dragon Quest MMORPG, customers would be very cautious nonetheless. Remember they just busted a brand-new FF online title? Go figure.

Chances are it's a small-scale tight-budget free-to-play, pay-to-enjoy (FTP-PTE) title. But even then... it speaks of an astonishing lack of focus. And bodes ill for the future of FFXIV.

Sometimes I get the impression that Yoshida is little more than a scapegoat, and granted by far less resources and manpower than he would need to shape the game into something enjoyable before people will simply forget about it.

Edited, May 25th 2011 8:48am by Rinsui
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Wow.... I dropped by to see what was new with FFXIV and this is the first thread that I saw. Astonishing lack of focus is putting it mildly. I'd say their upper management must be suffering from some sort of collective brain disease. They should be putting all their focus into XIV to pull back in the old fans they lost - not running three mmos.

You can do one thing great, two things good, but once you start to push into three and four you end up with just mediocre.
#17 May 25 2011 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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Wow. I read this, looked at my calendar, and realized it's not a Friday... This company is truly baffling sometimes.
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It's actually brilliant on their end IF they can make the new project work. They know they have little chance of relaunching FFXIV into a successful project. So they are diverting their resources into a new shot at making a successful MMO while keeping FFXIV on life support.
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#19 May 25 2011 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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...until they finally pull the plug?

Edited, May 25th 2011 9:28am by Rinsui
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Square never cease to amaze me, they really should not do this currently.

I know what they plan to do (have 3 cash cows all running at once, raking in money) but it will ultimately end up with 1 stable old MMO (FFXI) that they will no longer fully support (this is already happening cause of them splitting teams and cutitng costs), FFXIV which will now become so undersupported it will be even more impossible to succeed and the new MMO that will be cheaply done and lackluster. All 3 will fail if they really do go with this.

They really struggle to run 2 MMOs now without massively cutting back on costs and having bare bones staff running them, trying to run 3 will be sad to see for anyone that likes any of their online titles.

They vastly cut back on FFXI updates to create FFXIV, it's obvious to see in the XI updates now and the updates(lol) they are doing on XIV that it's happening again to both games because of this new one.
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Kayako wrote:
It's actually brilliant on their end IF they can make the new project work. They know they have little chance of relaunching FFXIV into a successful project. So they are diverting their resources into a new shot at making a successful MMO while keeping FFXIV on life support.


I don't see how it's brilliant at all. FFXIV already had to overcome the stigma of FFXI, and now the new mmo has to overcome the stigma of FFXIV. That's an incredibly tough situation to overcome (albeit self-inflicted), and I'm just not sure they are really up to the task or even understand their situation.

That's what it seems like, anyway. They really just don't understand the situation they are in.
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So much for focusing on restoring this title then. Any ideas they create, writing they produce, or effort they place will now be split between all these projects running at once. This just proves to me they've given up on this title and want to bury it but cannot just up and drop it because of the bad news that would result from it. So here they are sending out 300MB patches with 5 hour download times which we already downloaded, inflating Dodo's, and writing stylized articles on Lodestone instead.
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Hay. Don't be so negative. It took almost 10 months, but now we got chocobos.
Clearly FFXIV still is backed by a HUGE development team.
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Torrence wrote:
Kayako wrote:
It's actually brilliant on their end IF they can make the new project work. They know they have little chance of relaunching FFXIV into a successful project. So they are diverting their resources into a new shot at making a successful MMO while keeping FFXIV on life support.


I don't see how it's brilliant at all. FFXIV already had to overcome the stigma of FFXI, and now the new mmo has to overcome the stigma of FFXIV. That's an incredibly tough situation to overcome (albeit self-inflicted), and I'm just not sure they are really up to the task or even understand their situation.

That's what it seems like, anyway. They really just don't understand the situation they are in.


That's simple. The new MMO wont be linked to FF, and thus wont have the stigma that the FF MMO's have in people's eyes. As of now MMO's are bigger than retail in Japan. If they make a Dragon Quest MMO it'll sell like hot cakes in Japan. More than FFXIV could dream of.
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That's simple. The new MMO wont be linked to FF, and thus wont have the stigma that the FF MMO's have in people's eyes. As of now MMO's are bigger than retail in Japan. If they make a Dragon Quest MMO it'll sell like hot cakes in Japan. More than FFXIV could dream of.


That's simple only if you assume people here (Japan) are brainless zombies with a memory span of 3 seconds maximum. Do you think people here forgot about SE's last flagship MMORPG? Do you think SE has the manpower and resources to develop a full-fledged high quality Dragon Quest MMORPG? Or that they will be able to bribe the press yet again to delay their reviews indefinitely (or at least until the revenue from gullible pre-orderers covers the production cost)?

Edited, May 25th 2011 9:41am by Rinsui
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That's simple. The new MMO wont be linked to FF, and thus wont have the stigma that the FF MMO's have in people's eyes. As of now MMO's are bigger than retail in Japan. If they make a Dragon Quest MMO it'll sell like hot cakes in Japan. More than FFXIV could dream of.


Nothing is fullproof, the JP audience is very fanboish and loyal to JP titles but even that has limits and they dropped a **** of a dodo with it's last big franchise MMO.
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Nothing is fullproof, the JP audience is very fanboish and loyal to JP titles but even that has limits and they dropped a **** of a dodo with it's last big franchise MMO.

Most definitely. XIV was (rightfully) ripped to pieces in most customer reviews.
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That's simple. The new MMO wont be linked to FF, and thus wont have the stigma that the FF MMO's have in people's eyes. As of now MMO's are bigger than retail in Japan. If they make a Dragon Quest MMO it'll sell like hot cakes in Japan. More than FFXIV could dream of.


That's simple only if you assume people here (Japan) are brainless zombies with a memory span of 3 seconds maximum. Do you think people here forgot about SE's last flagship MMORPG? Do you think SE has the manpower and resources to develop a full-fledged high quality Dragon Quest MMORPG?


Honestly as far as it comes to Japan you could put the Dragon Quest logo on a stool sample by Wada and it would sell like hot cakes. And are we talking about the flagship MMO title most people are very happy to pretend doesn't exist? If SE made a DQ MMO with good gameplay the hype would be through the roof. And yes SE has the manpower and money to make a DQ MMO cause they'd use the call shaded graphic of the previous DQ titles instead of using millions and months on over polished graphics like FFXIV has.
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That's simple. The new MMO wont be linked to FF, and thus wont have the stigma that the FF MMO's have in people's eyes. As of now MMO's are bigger than retail in Japan. If they make a Dragon Quest MMO it'll sell like hot cakes in Japan. More than FFXIV could dream of.


That's simple only if you assume people here (Japan) are brainless zombies with a memory span of 3 seconds maximum. Do you think people here forgot about SE's last flagship MMORPG? Do you think SE has the manpower and resources to develop a full-fledged high quality Dragon Quest MMORPG? Or that they will be able to bribe the press yet again to delay their reviews indefinitely (or at least until the revenue from gullible pre-orderers covers the production cost)?

Edited, May 25th 2011 9:41am by Rinsui


The stigma will be present no matter what title they put on the box, and as far as I know the press collectively told SE to take a hike and reviewed XIV anyway. I doubt very highly that SE has the pull to control the press like they may have had a decade ago.

And to be fair, the Japanese were a lot less forgiving of FFXIV's flaws than we were here in NA, as the reviews on Amazon.com and other places show. I don't expect that they will have any different a reaction if SE pushes out another half-baked title with the word "online" on it.
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I read an article about 2 weeks ago, where wada was speaking out to shareholders or something along those lines. He kind of apologized for SE's recent troubles, and assured them that they were going back to their roots, they were going to be expanding on 5 of their previous properties, as well as creating 5 new IPs that they hope to build around for years to come. I thought he was crazy when I read that, and now I'm starting to think they are delusional. I understand trying to lead confidently through a crisis, but I think they are really stretching that company beyond their capabilities.
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Honestly as far as it comes to Japan you could put the Dragon Quest logo on a stool sample by Wada and it would sell like hot cakes.

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If SE made a DQ MMO with good gameplay the hype would be through the roof.

That's one "If" too much for a company who just rode the hype wave and shattered on the shore.

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And yes SE has the manpower and money to make a DQ MMO cause they'd use the call shaded graphic of the previous DQ titles instead of using millions and months on over polished graphics like FFXIV has.


Hmm. Graphics aside, it still takes a LOOOOOOOT of time to produce a quality MMORPG, figure out network issues, set up payment models, implement storylines, develop characters and background stories, battle systems... well, a LOOOOOOOT. Like in "lot", written in all capitals and with many O's in the middle. Do you really believe investors would want to wait that long.

Besides, even *if* you were right, the consequences for FFXIV would be the same.
I don't like this. Not focused.

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Basic business:

As a very large company, they have to weigh their options carefully. FFXIV has already failed. What they are trying to do is get it to the point it may someday make up the costs to develop it and perhaps make a small profit. At this point, keeping FFXIV is more for goodwill and to save some face. They are better off staying on their current development course than try to build it into something that will never be, that it was was was projected to be.

They have to move on to other projects. That's the only way they will be able to put themselves back on the map. If they fail again, they tried. Think of this as a car company that produces a car...and ends up failing. They usually will invest some effort to make it better...but will also start up other brands to counter-act the failed project. SE is doing the same thing. They make games. The solution is not to invest more resources into a failed project. The risk/reward is more appealing in a new project.

Like it or not.

None of this will have any bearing on how fast FFXIV comes back as that track has been laid out.
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Well obviously SE has no faith in FFXIV becoming a very profitable venture or else they wouldn't come in with a third MMO.
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Well obviously SE has no faith in FFXIV becoming a very profitable venture or else they wouldn't come in with a third MMO.

Now that's a point where we seem to agree.
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That's one "If" too much for a company who just rode the hype wave and shattered on the shore.


lol - best quote I have read in a while - I likes.

Kayako wrote:
Well obviously SE has no faith in FFXIV becoming a very profitable venture or else they wouldn't come in with a third MMO.


I'm pretty sure that this third MMO will have been in development for some years already if they are going to announce it this year, it's emergence will have no real relevance to the state of FFXIV.
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I'm pretty sure that this third MMO will have been in development for some years already if they are going to announce it this year, it's emergence will have no real relevance to the state of FFXIV.


If it becomes successful it will have an effect on FFXIV. They will not use a lot of resources on FFXIV if using the resources on the new project gives better yields. MMO's are for better and worse cash cows to be milked by the companies that make them.

Another point I'd like to make is that the relaunch of FFXIV will have an even bigger stigma than any new project. FFXIV has already failed once and pretty badly to boot.
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My first thought was just some FTP title. But considering he sai two to three large scale titles, it seems it might be a full on subscription game.

Hopefully they go outside th FF universe for this. A Dragon Quest title could be cool if they drop the cartoony feel that series has.




Edited, May 25th 2011 10:29am by Sephrick
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I'm pretty sure that this third MMO will have been in development for some years already

Correct.

However, there's another ambiguous passage. Roughly, it reads: "Also, because the development of MMOs requires vast amounts of money, further investments (in that direction) will be on hold until the current titles have become self-sufficient". Most likely, it means they are not going to develop *new* MMOs. Let's hope this doesn't affect the budgets of current titles.
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Just because a company has a successful product it doesn't mean they will just rest on their "laurels", every major company will always have a product development team looking for the next thing.

Can you imagine a world with just coke (no Diet, Light, Zero, Fanta, Sprite), Big Mac (no quarter pounder, ... ) and so forth?

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#40 May 25 2011 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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I don't understand why people freak out. SE is a publisher. It's not that they only make one game and don't do anything else till it's finished.
They're also going to release Deus Ex soon and are working on FFXIII Versus and a bunch of other games.
They have more than one team of developers on different projects.

Also, I'm pretty sure they started development for this "new" MMO before FFXIV even got into alpha stage.

Grab a cold beer and take it easy.
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#41 May 25 2011 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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This is a joke, right? It has to be a joke, they wouldn't seriously be dumb enough to start on ANOTHER MMO before they've even made back the development costs of this one, right? Right? Right?


They ran FFXI and FMO side by side just fine.
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Basic business:

As a very large company, they have to weigh their options carefully. FFXIV has already failed. What they are trying to do is get it to the point it may someday make up the costs to develop it and perhaps make a small profit. At this point, keeping FFXIV is more for goodwill and to save some face. They are better off staying on their current development course than try to build it into something that will never be, that it was was was projected to be.

They have to move on to other projects. That's the only way they will be able to put themselves back on the map. If they fail again, they tried. Think of this as a car company that produces a car...and ends up failing. They usually will invest some effort to make it better...but will also start up other brands to counter-act the failed project. SE is doing the same thing. They make games. The solution is not to invest more resources into a failed project. The risk/reward is more appealing in a new project.

Like it or not.

None of this will have any bearing on how fast FFXIV comes back as that track has been laid out.

this.
also, someone above posted saying "things could take years, do you think investors are willing to wait that long?"
im no business guru but from my experience, in california, large scale projects will pull in shareholders and investors from all over the world, anything over $100 million is expected to take at least a few years (largely dependant on the project, 100 mill. in real estate would probably take 3-5 years depending on location and man power) these investors are are either worth vast scales of money, or have vast scales of money as their business one way or another and put projects like these on a seperate level from the rest of their work since they take so long.
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FFXIV on PC and FFXIV on PS3 are considered two different games. FFXIV on PS3 is going to launch this year. FFXI is still going and SE also has a free to play MMO Fantasy Earth Zero. That's four MMO's being operated at once. Don't over think it.
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The whole point is, SE does NOT have limitless manpower or funding for these projects. They've already dumped millions into FFXIV, and any new MMO is going to even further strain both their monetary and workflow resources. Obviously if they are announcing it this year it has been in development for a while, which actually might explain the insanely slow pace of updating for FFXIV. Personally, I think it's a really dumb idea to try and pump out yet another MMO when you're still trying to save face from the last one. But then again, who knows? Maybe we'll get Chrono Online or something and then the entire world can cream it's pants in anticipation.
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FFXIV on PC and FFXIV on PS3 are considered two different games. FFXIV on PS3 is going to launch this year.


I'd like to see some proof to back this up, because I think you're just talking a lot of BS. And no, they aren't considered different games. They will be run on the same servers, just like FFXI was with PC, PS2, PS3, and Xbox360. Those weren't 4 separate games, sorry.
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Hmm... I never trust companies that have too many MMOs simultaneously released - especially, especially not two MMOs released within the same year! It always seems like they're just splitting their resources and trying to saturate the market, hoping that when a player gets sick of "Company's lame MMO #1," that player will quit and pick up "Company's lame MMO #2," still giving the company revenue.

Here's several mediocre and/or derivative titles rather than a single, good one!

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I think I'll preorder and get a 6 month sub...

Seriously though, wtf is going on with SE? I was under the impression that they were serious about fixing FF14; to me, this shows that they aren't.
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The whole point is, SE does NOT have limitless manpower or funding for these projects. They've already dumped millions into FFXIV, and any new MMO is going to even further strain both their monetary and workflow resources. Obviously if they are announcing it this year it has been in development for a while, which actually might explain the insanely slow pace of updating for FFXIV. Personally, I think it's a really dumb idea to try and pump out yet another MMO when you're still trying to save face from the last one. But then again, who knows? Maybe we'll get Chrono Online or something and then the entire world can cream it's pants in anticipation.

not to be too defiant but you literally and realistically dont know this, this is a company that has alot of other smaller companies and devisions under it, companies like that have several cash pulls from multiple resources.
also, an mmo doesnt become profitable until some time after its release, that means that department of the company is in debt until it can pull itself out, much like how chained businesses operate. a store i managed was in debt its entire time it was open (2 years) it was closed down and the assets were dissolved by the company.
another failed MMO would be a much greater hit than my above example, but that isnt to say SE doesnt have the recources to technically run 2 new MMOs that would benefit a cash flow over time.



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It's probably going to be something smaller than FFXI and XIV. Regional. JP only.

FFXIV was supposed to be a WoW-killer, but that was just a dream--and a stupid one. If I were king, there would not be another new MMO on the market for the rest of the decade. Let Blizzard have it already. It's depressing to see these companies wasting man hours and capital to overthrow WoW. The only thing that's going to stop WoW is time, and carpal tunnel.
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#50 May 25 2011 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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pixelpop wrote:
BartelX wrote:
The whole point is, SE does NOT have limitless manpower or funding for these projects. They've already dumped millions into FFXIV, and any new MMO is going to even further strain both their monetary and workflow resources. Obviously if they are announcing it this year it has been in development for a while, which actually might explain the insanely slow pace of updating for FFXIV. Personally, I think it's a really dumb idea to try and pump out yet another MMO when you're still trying to save face from the last one. But then again, who knows? Maybe we'll get Chrono Online or something and then the entire world can cream it's pants in anticipation.

not to be too defiant but you literally and realistically dont know this, this is a company that has alot of other smaller companies and devisions under it, companies like that have several cash pulls from multiple resources.
also, an mmo doesnt become profitable until some time after its release, that means that department of the company is in debt until it can pull itself out, much like how chained businesses operate. a store i managed was in debt its entire time it was open (2 years) it was closed down and the assets were dissolved by the company.
another failed MMO would be a much greater hit than my above example, but that isnt to say SE doesnt have the recources to technically run 2 new MMOs that would benefit a cash flow over time.
Edited, May 25th 2011 11:17am by pixelpop


True, I don't know this for a fact, but I like to think the proof is in the pudding. Look at the pace at which we've seen stuff added to FFXIV. Look at the pace with which there have been updates to FFXI recently. Clearly there is some factor here at play that is limiting their ability to pump out content... sure I'm making an assumption, but I'd say it's at least somewhat warranted.


Edited, May 25th 2011 11:23am by BartelX
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#51 May 25 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Default
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WOW, all that reading, 40 rate downs and one rate up right at the last now I get to post...

"SE!!!! ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES MUST WORK ON FFXIV OR ELSE YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS SENSE!!!"

STFU Seriously OMGWTFBBQFFS

The positive side to MMOs it that they will give a regular income instead of one off game purchse income. Since cash is the lifeblood of any business they make sense.
Do you lot seriously thing SE is a room with a couple hundred people all working on XIV? and thats it? Or perhaps everyone else sits around and twiddles their thumbs waiting for XIV to be at the stage it should be then they are allowed to make other games that have no relation to XIV? Or perhaps SE:"I know, we have XX number of people capacity to develop one of our ideas... oh wait we shouldnt do an MMO cos of FFXIV", "Perhaps we should make them redundant cos that'd be cheaper than making another game... we cant make another MMO no way", "wait lets get those working on XIV at the same time, that'll mess the XIV team up nice and proper.", "in fact, lets get 10 people writing the same code at the same time thats a good use of resources"
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