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#1 Jun 09 2011 at 11:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I finally finished last main quest few days ago.
It's a long trip to the camp in Mordor,I thought I would have a good adventure.

but what I experienced are: highly repetitive scenes in Mordor,
monotonous mobs(toads, mushrooms, boars, eyes),
quest is still boring.
I was really ****** off.

Grind 6 months for such bad experience,
this game is dead, at least to me
sigh

Edited, Jun 10th 2011 1:39am by shandavine
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SE went for no-map-loading which means copy/paste zones... DUMB DECISION SE! Go for FFXI style zones.
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It took you 6 months to realize you were playing a bad game?
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Imaboomer wrote:
SE went for no-map-loading which means copy/paste zones... DUMB DECISION SE! Go for FFXI style zones.

what are you talking about? there is map-loading at every zone line.....
FFXIV is not open world like other MMOS.
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Well, but we need an excuse for why zones are so bland...?
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I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed. The wonder pops up when i see people complain and moan at a game, more so than play it. Opening the floor to the questions;
-Why are you making a bad image of a game that is still under construction?
-What is it that you possibly hope to gain buy turning people away?
-It's free, what right do you have to criticize?
-Do you realize the impact the negativity posts like this have in the long run?
If you are unhappy with the game log out, uninstall, cancel sub. And enjoy your life.

ps: questions not addressed at any one particular, just some of the many questions i have to people causing a commotion for nothing.
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I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed.



I know I am working on crafting while it is easy(just in case they change it), getting fishing to 50, and 1 class over 40 so at least when the game becomes something 'more' I am ready to experience it at all levels. Besides, behesting every 30 isn't a difficult thing while watching TV with the wife.
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I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed.


Right, because clearly it takes "dedication" to play a bad game. I'm glad I'm not a dedicated person then, because I stopped playing this game about 4 months ago and couldn't be happier. I'd love for them to keep improving it and get to a point where I'll happily play, but I'm not going to waste my time playing a game that I don't enjoy just to be considered "dedicated". Why the heck should anyone have to do that?
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I'd love for them to keep improving it and get to a point where I'll happily play, but I'm not going to waste my time playing a game that I don't enjoy just to be considered "dedicated". Why the heck should anyone have to do that?


I agree with you 100% but if you don't like or even play the game why stay around the forum?
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Hugus wrote:
BartelX wrote:
I'd love for them to keep improving it and get to a point where I'll happily play, but I'm not going to waste my time playing a game that I don't enjoy just to be considered "dedicated". Why the heck should anyone have to do that?


I agree with you 100% but if you don't like or even play the game why stay around the forum?


Because I'm bored as **** at work with nothing to do. ****, I've even gone and poked around the ffxi forums because it's that slow here. =/
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BartelX wrote:
TwiddleDee wrote:
I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed.


Right, because clearly it takes "dedication" to play a bad game. I'm glad I'm not a dedicated person then, because I stopped playing this game about 4 months ago and couldn't be happier. I'd love for them to keep improving it and get to a point where I'll happily play, but I'm not going to waste my time playing a game that I don't enjoy just to be considered "dedicated". Why the heck should anyone have to do that?


Umm because there are plenty of people that enjoy the game in it's current state.

So you quit the game 4 months ago and still troll Zam and bash the game? Why do you still concern yourself with something you abhor and evidently makes you angry? I suppose I will never understand troll logic.
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#15 Jun 10 2011 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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I agree with you 100% but if you don't like or even play the game why stay around the forum?


Because it's F2P here.... oh wait.

In fairness, I actually prefer reviewing any new posts every 30 mins as opposed to doing another behest. At least with a new post, it can vary in difficulty and anybody can join in....oh... and some mobs (read: posters) are notoriously difficult to beat... stratedgy may be required!!
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JJCheebone wrote:
BartelX wrote:
TwiddleDee wrote:
I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed.


Right, because clearly it takes "dedication" to play a bad game. I'm glad I'm not a dedicated person then, because I stopped playing this game about 4 months ago and couldn't be happier. I'd love for them to keep improving it and get to a point where I'll happily play, but I'm not going to waste my time playing a game that I don't enjoy just to be considered "dedicated". Why the heck should anyone have to do that?


Umm because there are plenty of people that enjoy the game in it's current state.

So you quit the game 4 months ago and still troll Zam and bash the game? Why do you still concern yourself with something you abhor and evidently makes you angry? I suppose I will never understand troll logic.


How is posting on the forums hoping for the game to improve trolling? If you read any of my posts, you'll realize that I WANT this game to get better. I don't abhor it, I stopped playing because it wasn't fun for me. It's that simple. Next time, learn what trolling means before you accuse someone of it.
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Umm because there are plenty of people that enjoy the game in it's current state.


Ok boys, they finally found out we are only trolls hired by Blizzard to badmouth FFXIV to death.
We lost. There's even more plenty of people in this game than there was at launch.
****, I told you it was impossible to kill off a game as good as FFXIV.
Plenty of times.
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BartelX wrote:
JJCheebone wrote:
BartelX wrote:
TwiddleDee wrote:
I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed.


Right, because clearly it takes "dedication" to play a bad game. I'm glad I'm not a dedicated person then, because I stopped playing this game about 4 months ago and couldn't be happier. I'd love for them to keep improving it and get to a point where I'll happily play, but I'm not going to waste my time playing a game that I don't enjoy just to be considered "dedicated". Why the heck should anyone have to do that?


Umm because there are plenty of people that enjoy the game in it's current state.

So you quit the game 4 months ago and still troll Zam and bash the game? Why do you still concern yourself with something you abhor and evidently makes you angry? I suppose I will never understand troll logic.


How is posting on the forums hoping for the game to improve trolling? If you read any of my posts, you'll realize that I WANT this game to get better. I don't abhor it, I stopped playing because it wasn't fun for me. It's that simple. Next time, learn what trolling means before you accuse someone of it.


You are right, calling you a troll was a bit presumptuous considering I don't read all of your posts. From the ones I do read and take notice you are generally negative. I apologize if I offended you. I hope the game improves to your standards so you can bring some positivity to these boards.
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Umm because there are plenty of people that enjoy the game in it's current state.


Ok boys, they finally found out we are only trolls hired by Blizzard to badmouth FFXIV to death.
We lost. There's even more plenty of people in this game than there was at launch.
****, I told you it was impossible to kill off a game as good as FFXIV.
Plenty of times.


Good one!
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TwiddleDee wrote:
I have bee wondering lately, tho many people are unhappy with 14 the people that have even a hair of dedication don't ***** but try to make the best of it until the game if fixed. The wonder pops up when i see people complain and moan at a game, more so than play it. Opening the floor to the questions;
-Why are you making a bad image of a game that is still under construction?
-What is it that you possibly hope to gain buy turning people away?
-It's free, what right do you have to criticize?
-Do you realize the impact the negativity posts like this have in the long run?
If you are unhappy with the game log out, uninstall, cancel sub. And enjoy your life.

ps: questions not addressed at any one particular, just some of the many questions i have to people causing a commotion for nothing.

I don't come on here much anymore to talk about this or that. I was one of the people who took a lot of shots at SE for the crap job they did with this game. I do not feel bad at all for that. I still log into the game now and again just to see if anything is getting better. each time I log in and its just more of the same. But still Ill take a shot at your questions.

1. This is retail. The game stoped being Beta the day the game was shiped to the store and SE asked us to buy the game. Really this defence was never a good one. Any one who spent 1 dime on this game can ***** all they want.

2. To stop others from wasting time and $$ like I did?

3. Again it is not free. Im sure that I spent $80 on the game. You can cry "But they are not charging a monthly fee!" all you want. dose not make the game free. you still must go out and buy the **** game. Buying something with cash dose not = free.

4 Yes I do realize the impact my negativity has on the game. SE has earned every last bit of it. We are coming up on one year in and the game is still crap. I am shocked that people are still willing to defend SE on this.

PS I could uninstall the game and walk away. Sure that is true. But I get a sick joy out of bad mouthing a game that I spent $80 for and got nothing in return. And affter spending my time to go get the game. my $80 to buy the game and then my time to install the game and play the crapy game I feel I can bad mouth this **** game all I want untill it stops being fun for me to do so.

Edited, Jun 10th 2011 11:20am by Sethern79
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In all fairness, most MMO forums are much more brutal than these; even the most popular games are full of people picking those games apart on the forums. I think we all remember these (and other) forums when XIV launched..
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#23TonberyHunter, Posted: Jun 10 2011 at 11:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If i may i will analyze your answers, and point some wrongs.
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TonberyHunter wrote:
Sethern79 wrote:

1. This is retail. The game stoped being Beta the day the game was shiped to the store and SE asked us to buy the game. Really this defense was never a good one. Any one who spent 1 dime on this game can ***** all they want.

2. To stop others from wasting time and $$ like I did?

3. Again it is not free. Im sure that I spent $80 on the game. You can cry "But they are not charging a monthly fee!" all you want. dose not make the game free. you still must go out and buy the **** game. Buying something with cash dose not = free.

4 Yes I do realize the impact my negativity has on the game. SE has earned every last bit of it. We are coming up on one year in and the game is still crap. I am shocked that people are still willing to defend SE on this.
Edited, Jun 10th 2011 11:20am by Sethern79


If i may i will analyze your answers, and point some wrongs.

1. This game was not suppose to come out till summer this year if not early fall, as such this game is still in a legitimate open Beta state. You would have spent that dime all the same, just the when would have had different day.
does not give you right to *****.

2. The fact that you do not like this game does NOT mean some one else that picks it up will not like it.
does not give you right to *****

3. You would have spent that cash all the same, just the when would have had different day. What you payed for is to be able to play a game that is evolving and growing.
does not give you right to *****.

4. The game has changed a long's way from day one. If you spend the time to complain, playing you would see the changes. We have 4more months to one year and buy than the game will be nearly the complete stage and will be nothing like it's now.


Edited, Jun 10th 2011 1:51pm by TonberyHunter


Respectfully, what the **** planet are you from? Who cares if it was "supposed" to be released later? SE released it and charged people box fees and intended on charging a sub for that game. If someone hands you a pile of horsesh*t and says "Oh, it was supposed to be a sandwich, but I didn't have time and I had to give it to you now" -- OF COURSE you'll have every right to complain.
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TonberyHunter wrote:
Sethern79 wrote:

1. This is retail. The game stoped being Beta the day the game was shiped to the store and SE asked us to buy the game. Really this defense was never a good one. Any one who spent 1 dime on this game can ***** all they want.

2. To stop others from wasting time and $$ like I did?

3. Again it is not free. Im sure that I spent $80 on the game. You can cry "But they are not charging a monthly fee!" all you want. dose not make the game free. you still must go out and buy the **** game. Buying something with cash dose not = free.

4 Yes I do realize the impact my negativity has on the game. SE has earned every last bit of it. We are coming up on one year in and the game is still crap. I am shocked that people are still willing to defend SE on this.
Edited, Jun 10th 2011 11:20am by Sethern79


If i may i will analyze your answers, and point some wrongs.

1. This game was not suppose to come out till summer this year if not early fall, as such this game is still in a legitimate open Beta state. You would have spent that dime all the same, just the when would have had different day.
does not give you right to *****.

2. The fact that you do not like this game does NOT mean some one else that picks it up will not like it.
does not give you right to *****

3. You would have spent that cash all the same, just the when would have had different day. What you payed for is to be able to play a game that is evolving and growing.
does not give you right to *****.

4. The game has changed a long's way from day one. If you spend the time to complain, playing you would see the changes. We have 4more months to one year and buy than the game will be nearly the complete stage and will be nothing like it's now.


Edited, Jun 10th 2011 1:51pm by TonberyHunter


This post has to be a joke...right? Thanks for the laugh...
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TonberyHunter wrote:
Sethern79 wrote:

1. This is retail. The game stoped being Beta the day the game was shiped to the store and SE asked us to buy the game. Really this defense was never a good one. Any one who spent 1 dime on this game can ***** all they want.

2. To stop others from wasting time and $$ like I did?

3. Again it is not free. Im sure that I spent $80 on the game. You can cry "But they are not charging a monthly fee!" all you want. dose not make the game free. you still must go out and buy the **** game. Buying something with cash dose not = free.

4 Yes I do realize the impact my negativity has on the game. SE has earned every last bit of it. We are coming up on one year in and the game is still crap. I am shocked that people are still willing to defend SE on this.
Edited, Jun 10th 2011 11:20am by Sethern79


If i may i will analyze your answers, and point some wrongs.

1. This game was not suppose to come out till summer this year if not early fall, as such this game is still in a legitimate open Beta state. You would have spent that dime all the same, just the when would have had different day.
does not give you right to *****.

2. The fact that you do not like this game does NOT mean some one else that picks it up will not like it.
does not give you right to *****

3. You would have spent that cash all the same, just the when would have had different day. What you payed for is to be able to play a game that is evolving and growing.
does not give you right to *****.

4. The game has changed a long's way from day one. If you spend the time to complain, playing you would see the changes. We have 4more months to one year and buy than the game will be nearly the complete stage and will be nothing like it's now.


Edited, Jun 10th 2011 1:51pm by TonberyHunter


ROFL I have a Car I would like to sell you. The engine dose not come out untill next year.. Oh and the seats will not be in untill 2013. And what ever you do don't expect a radio untill late 2013. BTW could you sing this saying you will not ***** about thanks..

Give me a brake. oh and I do not recall them ever saying summer 2011 or later. infact I recall the game coming out in 2010. BTW The fact that I am a free man with an opinion of my own. That alone gives me all the "right to *****" I need.
#28TonberyHunter, Posted: Jun 10 2011 at 1:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I will admit you guys are fairly amusing. However the facts remain that:
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TonberyHunter wrote:
I will admit you guys are fairly amusing. However the facts remain that:
a) no one forced you to purchase the game.
b) if you don't like it leave no one forced you to stay
c) you purchased it and are unhappy uninstall and leave
d) game was 80$ so what, that's a 2h's pay.
e) i can go on, but every one loves to criticize, tho they cant do better.
f) wonder if anyone even read past (b)


A.) I didn't purchase until it was 15 dollars in December. I knew it was a rotten egg.
B.) I check in because, as much as I think the game is a total mess, I want it not to be.
C.) See above.
D.) Republican, huh?
E.) ?
F.) Yes, amazingly, I am a detail-oriented person who finishes what he starts. If only SE had the same ethic in September 2010.
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B and C are the same thing.
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I know the game is not up to standards and what not, but you found the last quest to be boring?

R38 and R46 were actually good quests (albeit on the easy side). In fact, I wish XIV had more content and storyline quests like that.

Edited, Jun 10th 2011 1:16pm by UltKnightGrover
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#32 Jun 10 2011 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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ROFL I have a Car I would like to sell you. The engine dose not come out untill next year.. Oh and the seats will not be in untill 2013. And what ever you do don't expect a radio untill late 2013. BTW could you sing this saying you will not ***** about thanks..

Give me a brake.


Nice pun. =D

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You are right, calling you a troll was a bit presumptuous considering I don't read all of your posts. From the ones I do read and take notice you are generally negative. I apologize if I offended you. I hope the game improves to your standards so you can bring some positivity to these boards.


It wasn't presumptious, it was just you using a word you clearly didn't understand the meaning of. As for negativity, I'm certainly no more negative than the majority of posters here. And, for the most part, I at least WANT to see this game improve. I'm as ticked as the next guy that SE sold me a **** sandwich, but if they can eventually correct it and make a game worth playing, I'm all for it.

If you can have fun with this game now, more power to ya. I had fun for a while, but when they absolutely REFUSE to add any content month after month, it gets old.
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It wasn't presumptious, it was just you using a word you clearly didn't understand the meaning of. As for negativity, I'm certainly no more negative than the majority of posters here. And, for the most part, I at least WANT to see this game improve. I'm as ticked as the next guy that SE sold me a **** sandwich, but if they can eventually correct it and make a game worth playing, I'm all for it.

If you can have fun with this game now, more power to ya. I had fun for a while, but when they absolutely REFUSE to add any content month after month, it gets old.


**** you are right. I didn't know the true definition. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.

Anyway it's good to know you want the game to succeed. That is something you never hear from 99% of the negative Nancys posting on the forums.

Also to the OP, did you at least like the Mor Dhona music?
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Wtf did I walk into?


You walked into the same rabble as usual: a vitriolic mixture of furious FFXIV bashing, zealous FFXIV defending, and remixes of early 20th century Western/Gospel musician Tennessee Ernie Ford... hmm, actually, that last part is a new one.
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I finally finished last main quest few days ago.
It's a long trip to the camp in Mordor,I thought I would have a good adventure.

I think THIS is exactly why I stopped at rank 44 and haven't logged in a week. I'm both excited at the idea of seeing the last cutscene in full resolution glory and with my character & companion, but at the same time, I feel that if I get 46 and finish that quest, that will be the last cutscene I see in that game for a long time.
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I like the final mission and I look forward to more storyline.

->Got a Complaint about the game?<-

->Want to make the game better?<-

Just like the Buddy Pass Request Thread; Keep this crap where we can easily ignore it.

Edited to sound nicer. Even though all the haters in this thread will rate down this post instead of rationally replying to it.

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LillithaFenimore wrote:
Wtf did I walk into?


You walked into the same rabble as usual: a vitriolic mixture of furious FFXIV bashing, zealous FFXIV defending, and remixes of early 20th century Western/Gospel musician Tennessee Ernie Ford... hmm, actually, that last part is a new one.

hahahah this post made my night and is 100% true.
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This really is the best advice on the entire topic, FFXIV is floundering horribly, the servers are deserted with a laughable low playerbase, it's simply not fun or rewarding to the vast majority of people that even attempt to try it...even for free. No matter how long you stick around it's just not going to get vastly better and it certainly won't become popular, it's been a year and it's basically the same.. which is an eternity for an MMO being stagnant in such a state.

Quit this loser of a game and play something worth your time and effort, if you want a FF game go play FFXI...in 6 months you can achieve so much now it's amazing. The most shocking part is, you will have fun and feel rewarded (amazing right?) while you do it. If you never played it you missed out, if you played it in the past and worry about restarting, don't because it's easier than ever to build up a char from scratch with many of the bad things from the past taken out. If you want something new, try Rift, Tera or GW2, anything genuinly good.

Torturing yourself to play a bad game that is universally hated and that the company that runs it is embarassed about is not a good way to spend your precious free time, FFXI is out right now, it's cheap to buy and it's fun, rewarding, has awesome storyline missions and quests that go all out to entertain you, full of content and heavily supported with big and regular updates.

Why people continue to play something that is genuinly obnoxious is beyond me, free time is one of your most precious commodities and wasting it on something you don't enjoy is stupid. If the only reason is becuase it's free well thats false economy if you aren't enjoying it and honestly there are better free MMO's out there anyway.


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Go ahead and transfer to lindblum and let me have your stuff.


This really is the best advice on the entire topic, FFXIV is floundering horribly, the servers are deserted with a laughable low playerbase, it's simply not fun or rewarding to the vast majority of people that even attempt to try it...even for free. No matter how long you stick around it's just not going to get vastly better and it certainly won't become popular, it's been a year and it's basically the same.. which is an eternity for an MMO being stagnant in such a state.

Quit this loser of a game and play something worth your time and effort, if you want a FF game go play FFXI...in 6 months you can achieve so much now it's amazing. The most shocking part is, you will have fun and feel rewarded (amazing right?) while you do it. If you never played it you missed out, if you played it in the past and worry about restarting, don't because it's easier than ever to build up a char from scratch with many of the bad things from the past taken out. If you want something new, try Rift, Tera or GW2, anything genuinly good.

Torturing yourself to play a bad game that is universally hated and that the company that runs it is embarassed about is not a good way to spend your precious free time, FFXI is out right now, it's cheap to buy and it's fun, rewarding, has awesome storyline missions and quests that go all out to entertain you, full of content and heavily supported with big and regular updates.

Why people continue to play something that is genuinly obnoxious is beyond me, free time is one of your most precious commodities and wasting it on something you don't enjoy is stupid. If the only reason is becuase it's free well thats false economy if you aren't enjoying it and honestly there are better free MMO's out there anyway.


Edited, Jun 11th 2011 2:10am by preludes



I wish I could, only I completed all of the story in Final Fantasy XI. Give me something I care about, like new story missions and not the same old rehashed zones with red skies and an increased level cap. I want to play a Final Fantasy for story and lore, not for level 90 equipment.

Final Fantasy XIV at least has story/quests, and cutscenes that are coming. I wish I could say the same about Final Fantasy XI.

(I think that's the biggest reason why I'm holding it out for XIV. If XI came back with new missions to do, I'd be back in a heartbeat.)



But really, don't go out and say and FFXI is on a high pedestal because it is being consistently put out with new updates. It's getting adjustments more often sure, but Square-Enix has put it essentially on auto-pilot by just tweaking current content rather than adding anything substantially new and/or innovative. And please don't say Abyssea is new/innovative. Because it isn't.



Edit: I want to make it clear that XIV isn't innocent from all this mess. The game needs nothing short of an overhaul, and I agree with you. It suffers from the same copy-paste that new-age FFXI is going through. Needs way more polish and was released too early for its own good. But Final Fantasy XI has long past its glory days. It was good up until about the end of Aht Urhgan, and then they got really lazy (and started releasing things unfinished) starting with the Wings expansion. A habit which the original team unfortunately carried over to XIV.






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But really, don't go out and say and FFXI is on a high pedestal because it is being consistently put out with new updates. It's getting adjustments more often sure, but Square-Enix has put it essentially on auto-pilot by just tweaking current content rather than adding anything substantially new and/or innovative. And please don't say Abyssea is new/innovative. Because it isn't.


I was like you in a way I suppose, I beat everything before Aby and disliked the new content. When I got into it though I have to say I'm having the best time in FFXI I've ever had and I've played the game for neary 7 years now, right now is the peak of enjoyment I've had in the game (aside from the first nostalga year ofc). I can do everything with my friends and I don't need to join some retarded linkshell with people I hate to get gear (this was XI's only flaw to me).

Not everyone has beat everything they cared to do in FFXI as you have and to them there is a mass amount of content (including storywise, WoTG is among the best story missions in the game). There is as much, infact probably more chance of FFXI getting expansions/addons and more content than FFXIV because, well... FFXI has over 200k paying subscribers, FFXIV has none, it's also fully paid for itself years ago. FFXIV freeloaders are not subscribers or loyal.

FFXI is still the best MMO on the market of it's kind and I sure will advise disgruntled XIV players to either try it or go back to it because as I said it's still one of the best MMO's out there (and I've played most everything else).

I feel sorry for people forcing themselves to play XIV when they get nothing out of the experience, its a dead and desolate game that has almost nothing of value in it. The total opposite of FFXI, the servers are busy there are tons of people playing it and there is tons to do that you will actually enjoy doing. The community is still the best of any MMO too. All the people I went to FFXIV with when it came out have all since come back to XI or the ones that never played I convinced to try it and we are all still playing..not one of them still plays XIV even though you have to pay to play XI and XIV is free.

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Uhh.

Should I tell him, or would someone else like to take this one?
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Uhh.

Should I tell him, or would someone else like to take this one?


Really, Almalexia? You know what I mean. Everything storyline-related. MMOs are designed to be played indefinitely, but the storyline of FFXI is still finite. There's a point where you see all the endings of all the main mission lines and see all the main NPCs say their farewells and see the main antagonist(s) perish.

Yes, you can argue that Abyssea has "story", but it has roughly the same amount as Dynamis does. And they're not officially missions. The last batch of missions were added in December 2010 with Lady Lilith, no?


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Anyway, back on topic. I agree with you, Preludes. If you still have stuff to do in FFXI, then yes right now it is the better out of the two online Final Fantasies at this point. Most of the missions can be low-manned and I imagine it's a much better experience than the ones we suffered through in its early years. But there are still people like me that really want FFXIV to succeed and want a fresh game-play experience. I would be angry when I see Final Fantasy fans deliberately skip from X to XII and not consider XI to be a Final Fantasy game due to it being an online MMO. Now I'm ashamed to recommend to anyone that XIV is worth playing at the moment. To those people I would definitely suggest XI.


The longer S-E takes to fix this mess, the less people are going to care and go back to what they know, or the better game anyhow. (Which at the moment, is FFXI)

Their silence isn't helping, either.

Edited, Jun 11th 2011 9:16am by UltKnightGrover


I also edited the original post so people like Almalexia doesn't nit-pick it.



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