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#1 Jun 11 2011 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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so i figured id post a link to this official thread about how people on the lodestone want the entire FFXI UI back in FFXIV.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/13286-Chat-window-is-horrid-doesn-t-fit-in-at-all-with-the-FF-feel.....
i personally am against this, i do think visually the current UI doesnt really fit the FF series but the FFXI UI was absolutely horried and non user friendly to me.
this is my post defending my point


them: I absolutely loved FF 11 having the full focus at the bottom of the screen. When doing sky/Dyna etc it was vital to follow instructions from the LS Leader, so it makes sense that it is the focus point."

me: so you didnt use vent? in my endgame vent is required because reading takes focus away from the mobs.

also, whenever your camera angle is pointing forward the mob is always at the top of the screen, you are at about the middle of the screen, so everything is happening at the top and middle of your moniter..... wouldnt it make sense to have all of that also at the top of the screen so you dont have to look away from the action???? hence why it makes more sense to me to have the vital points of the ui up and out of the way of everything. again, vent is free and mics are dirt cheap, typing should be avoided during endgame.

them: "When doing sky/Dyna etc it was vital to follow instructions from the LS Leader, so it makes sense that it is the focus point. "

me: again there is no reasoning as to why having the chat log take up the entire BOTTOM of the screen... it just doesnt make any plausible sense to me! ventrilo people, ventrilo!

you all probably want a duplicate FFXI ui too so have fun bashing costumizing your own UI to how you want it, no lets pidgeon hold things that dont need to be.
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#2 Jun 11 2011 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Jun 11 2011 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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bsphil wrote:
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^ This
Note: I do read the official forums, but that's more for amusement then it is for actual discussions.

I loved 11, played it from '04 to whenever abyssea was released. That said, I do not want the XI UI back. I actually like the XIV UI, needs some tweaks, but I still prefer it to XI's.

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#4 Jun 11 2011 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I think the current UI is flatout embarrassing. It's like for FFXIV 99.99% of the budget went to 3D graphics and with the leftover 0.01% they hired a monkey for the 2D overlay UI.
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#5 Jun 11 2011 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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me: so you didnt use vent? in my endgame vent is required because reading takes focus away from the mobs.


Agreed, it takes a deep amount of focus and concentration to master the delicate art of pressing the 1 key, ad infinitum.
#6 Jun 11 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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As horrendous as XI's UI looked, the resizable chatlog was a stroke of genius imo. It just lacked customization, which is why it never caught on. Being able to call up a full chatlog at the stroke of a key is something I REALLY miss.
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#7 Jun 11 2011 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Sephrick wrote:
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me: so you didnt use vent? in my endgame vent is required because reading takes focus away from the mobs.


Agreed, it takes a deep amount of focus and concentration to master the delicate art of pressing the 1 key, ad infinitum.

lol hahah ok you got me there, but my point stands in an ideal endgame situation.

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As horrendous as XI's UI looked, the resizable chatlog was a stroke of genius imo. It just lacked customization, which is why it never caught on. Being able to call up a full chatlog at the stroke of a key is something I REALLY miss.


i absolutely agree there should be a key to bring up an entire chat log on the fly, especially for parsing.

Edited, Jun 11th 2011 5:12pm by pixelpop
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#8 Jun 11 2011 at 5:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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FTFY! Smiley: wink
#9 Jun 11 2011 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
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i hate tha chat window also they are going to have to change alot of the UI just in terms of how the controller works i play with controller and i cant select any of that like i could in 11

aside from the chat box its not too bad you know you can move all the hp stamina and other bars right? it doesnt save that way but its not like it takes more then 3 secs to move them
#10 Jun 11 2011 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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While I do not want the XI UI back in its entirety, I would like it if they brought back the FF-style command windows rather than the horrid laggy Action bar.

Edited, Jun 11th 2011 7:17pm by UltKnightGrover
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#11 Jun 11 2011 at 9:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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UltKnightGrover wrote:
While I do not want the XI UI back in its entirety, I would like it if they brought back the FF-style command windows rather than the horrid laggy Action bar.


I know, really; how a company could fail at making a functional "WoW-clone" style action bar is beyond me - it seems to be something just about every crappy free-to-play game can pull off...



Edited, Jun 11th 2011 11:27pm by KaneKitty
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#12 Jun 11 2011 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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KaneKitty wrote:
UltKnightGrover wrote:
While I do not want the XI UI back in its entirety, I would like it if they brought back the FF-style command windows rather than the horrid laggy Action bar.


I know, really; how a company could fail at making a functional "WoW-clone" style action bar is beyond me - it seems to be something just about every crappy free-to-play game can pull off...



Edited, Jun 11th 2011 11:27pm by KaneKitty


simple because everything @ XIV's Core is dame near about the same as XI's. XI did not allow for more than one command execution at any given time...this works well in XI because of its timed nature and the fact there where no more than one basic command. XIV has no basic commands, no timing structure so naturally one command execution at a time isn't going to cut it. the other issue is that they've back themselves into a corner...the could allow us to stack up to three commands, but it would ***** up animations.

either there going to fix the animation to follow a stacked structure or there going to introduce timing. my monies on timed attacks being reintroduced.


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#13 Jun 12 2011 at 2:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I miss the ffxi chat UI, I miss the menu-based system. When FFXI trailers unleashed, I OOZED over the menu-style system. It is more actiony than pressing 1,4,5,1,2,4. I rather Spell->Blizzard. Oh yea! ICE POWAH. Rather than "5"
#14 Jun 12 2011 at 5:29 AM Rating: Default
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Imaboomer wrote:
I miss the ffxi chat UI, I miss the menu-based system. When FFXI trailers unleashed, I OOZED over the menu-style system. It is more actiony than pressing 1,4,5,1,2,4. I rather Spell->Blizzard. Oh yea! ICE POWAH. Rather than "5"


Yeah, just what we need, more menus to go through...
#15 Jun 13 2011 at 3:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Dizmo wrote:
Imaboomer wrote:
I miss the ffxi chat UI, I miss the menu-based system. When FFXI trailers unleashed, I OOZED over the menu-style system. It is more actiony than pressing 1,4,5,1,2,4. I rather Spell->Blizzard. Oh yea! ICE POWAH. Rather than "5"


Yeah, just what we need, more menus to go through...


Exactly. No, the menu-based system was horrible and convoluted. There are much better ways of doing it than returning to that style (such as allowing more than 1 bar onscreen, and obviously reducing the UI lag, both of which are being worked on)

I love FFXI (still play it) but **** the menu system and UI in general. It's not 2004 anymore.

That said, I agree that an option to bring up a full-screen chat log would be nice.
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