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#1 Jun 16 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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When thinking about my feelings towards FFXIV, I think back to the un-ceremonius way that my old bass player kicked my old drummer out of the band. He called him and left a message on his phone saying, "Sorry buddy but it's been 9 months and there is no baby, so we are gonna have to part ways." As I am sitting here waiting for over a half hour for the latest non-patch to download, I can't help but feel the same way about this game.
I have been a white knight for this game since its release, telling my friends and others who were leaving to, "stick it out, it will get better." Unfortunately, it has not gotten better, at least not enough to keep me around anymore. The annoying maintenance and the latest letter from the producer has convinced me that this game has a long way to go and unfortunately there is nothing in game that I am interested in doing until this game gets on the right track.
I will be back to check out the new patch (if it ever comes out), but I doubt that it will do enough to keep me around for long (i.e. do the new dungeons and get whatever gear I can, then I'm out again). Until this game gives me what I expect from an FF title, I can't spend any more of my precious time on it. Au revoir FFXIV, I'll see you when you grow up.

P.S. Don't start flaming me for trolling. I really wanted to love this game and that is why I decided to write this post. I am not angry, just a little broken-hearted.
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I also unceremoniously stopped playing FFXIV when my mobo died on me some time ago. Maybe I'll fix that... tomorrow? (last of the parts are shipping today :D)

I've been only really playing when each new patch would come out anyway. I purposely and incidentally don't get into the game too much right now, considering how much is going to change and how frustrating basic tasks still are. I'm still amazed at how uninteresting the game is after this long, all things considered.

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I'd say you gave it MORE than a fair shot, when considering the number of jobs you have 50+. I certainly can understand your feelings and I'm sorry you feel this way. Hopefully things will get better soon, and you will be back. Good luck!
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I've been only really playing when each new patch would come out anyway. I purposely and incidentally don't get into the game too much right now, considering how much is going to change and how frustrating basic tasks still are. I'm still amazed at how uninteresting the game is after this long, all things considered.


Basically this. There's far too little to do that'll grab my attention for long enough that I'd want to play it. In the game's current state, the only real thing to do is grind your classes and crafts so you might be ready for new content once they finally release it. Something about XIV really makes me want to check up on it time to time, but like the previous thread says, it might be getting to that point where they might not be able to recover from this.
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Rate up OP for the most tastefully done "I quit" thread ever written. I hope you come back, and more selfishly, I hope the game improves drastically so that the community doesn't continue to lose good players.

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I'm still amazed at how uninteresting the game is after this long, all things considered.


This quote should appear on the back of the game box in retail stores. Seriously, this quote is that good, and this accurately summarizes the way I feel about this game.

I log on once every couple of weeks, oogle the graphics, do a little bit of crafting, cry, then go back to playing Rift until they fix this train wreck of a game (or until they nail the coffin shut and bury the game in the middle of the desert).

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I read that quote as being loudly interrupted by a chocobo, thanks to your signature.

I think I've logged in like twice this whole month, and one of those two times was to stress my graphics card to see if my cooling fan repair job worked (it did). I haven't seen my retainer in months, I forget how to get around in Limsa and Gridania, and since I've been playing FFXI haven't been bothered to log in. I'm still having a blast with FFXI, which is a problem for FFXIV because I personally know several people who jumped ship to XI without looking back.

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The world is a dull place.

Don't know if it will ever change.

You might as well get out now.
#12 Jun 16 2011 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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Well, you gave it the ol' college try. Hopefully it will get better enough to draw you back. Until then, take it easy.
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#13 Jun 16 2011 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Here I stand so broken-hearted.
FFXIV promised s#it, but only farted...

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...and since I've been playing FFXI haven't been bothered to log in. I'm still having a blast with FFXI, which is a problem for FFXIV because I personally know several people who jumped ship to XI without looking back.


^This. I just reactivated my content ID myself and am actually sitting here at work thinking about what I will do in FFXI when I get home. FFXIV has never had that affect on me...not even close. I'll keep patching but I won't play until this forum turns into a FFXIV love fest.
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...and since I've been playing FFXI haven't been bothered to log in. I'm still having a blast with FFXI, which is a problem for FFXIV because I personally know several people who jumped ship to XI without looking back.


^This. I just reactivated my content ID myself and am actually sitting here at work thinking about what I will do in FFXI when I get home. FFXIV has never had that affect on me...not even close. I'll keep patching but I won't play until this forum turns into a FFXIV love fest.


Hehe, I just sent my notarized letter to SE to get my account back for XI after vowing to never play again. Little did I know they would COMPLETELY change the game and not make it quite so grind heavy and dependant on claim bots.

To the OP, I think you've definitely made the right decision. I've always said that if you find the game fun and enjoyable, that's really awesome and I hope you stick it out. But as soon as you start to wonder why you're logging in anymore, it's always smart to take a step back, take a break from the game, and just take it from there. I know that if the game doesn't go under, some day I probably will come back to FFXIV (just like I did for XI). Until then, I will just play other games that actually bring me enjoyment, and I'd encourage everyone else to do the same.
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First of all, ty everybody for the kind words. Second, I would like to say that I neglected to mention that I decided to give FFXI another try a few weeks ago. Even though SE has nerfed that game beyond recognition, I still find it very fun to play and an extremely well thought-out MMO. Unfortunately, by comparison, playing XI exposed the glaring weaknesses of this game. I still hope that SE gets it together and gives us a game of at least equal quality to FFXI.

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#18 Jun 16 2011 at 3:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Man, I tried getting back into FFXI after the disappointment from FFXIV, but of the like, 6-7 trips to Abyssea, almost all of them were miserable. I think there was one that got me a couple levels over 75 (quit before the level cap went up) in a few hours. Was a lot of new stuff for me to learn, but despite having been out for at least 6 months, nobody I went with seemed to have a good handle on it either. >_> Or, they just sucked at explaining things.
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As in your done playing FFXIV but still check the news? That's how I've been too, haven't played the game in over a month and I'm trying to wait patiently for 1.18 lol.
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Hey Winston,

I cannot say I am at all surprised to be reading this. I hope to see you back when (if) things improve.

If 1.18 sucks, then I will defo be reactivating my XI char and transferring server. Stay in touch bud in case I need the name of the LS ^^

All the best

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I can completely relate to this. More often than not, I just log in, maaaybe check retainer, and log out 2 minutes after I've considered what I could do - and out of the options available I decide not to bother. Hopefully the game becomes more engaging for all of us, and fast.

One other thing, the battle changes patch.... I really hate that people are referring to it as the 'miracle patch', cause it's not going to be that, from my point of view. The battle mechanic is a small, tiny piece of what all is wrong with XIV right now, and I don't think it will impact the game in a big way that everyone thinks it will, even if the battle changes turn out to be really good (I'm skeptical about that).
The new battles might end up being faster and more intuitive, and then what? Grind same old leves and mobs all over again but at least faster? "At least faster" being the miserable crumb we'll take and be grateful for, cause we're accustomed to have next to nothing.... I really hope that the other stuff (dungeons and whatever else we're getting in the patch) prove worth spending our time on for more than two weeks like so far, and I hope that after the July patch the next updates focus less on changing the core game mechanic and more on giving us a reason to want to play, achieve, discover, retell stories with Linkshell mates etc. /rant_off :x

Still haven't given up on XIV but, I suppose like many others, it's stretching my patience and good will to the very limit.

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I'm sure once i hit 50 i'll stop playing for a bit too until the game undoubtedly improves. So SE missed their launch date by a year, I'm gonna go ahead and blame tanaka sence he was the one that stepped down. But i'm not going to let the handful of bad decisions destroy my hopes of playing a game made by a fairly progressive and innovative development team.

I'm not saying its wrong to be upset by being sold an unfinished product but its certainly wrong to have a jaded view of the games future just because someone else gave you false promises, and thats not yoshi-p's fault.
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Still haven't given up on XIV but, I suppose like many others, it's stretching my patience and good will to the very limit.


The FFXIV fanbase should be given collective sainthood for the combination of patience and self-flagellation it has undertaken. Seriously: I'm sending the form to the Pope as we speak.
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I've been only really playing when each new patch would come out anyway. I purposely and incidentally don't get into the game too much right now, considering how much is going to change and how frustrating basic tasks still are. I'm still amazed at how uninteresting the game is after this long, all things considered.


Basically this. There's far too little to do that'll grab my attention for long enough that I'd want to play it. In the game's current state, the only real thing to do is grind your classes and crafts so you might be ready for new content once they finally release it. Something about XIV really makes me want to check up on it time to time, but like the previous thread says, it might be getting to that point where they might not be able to recover from this.

i originally dissagreed with them not being able to recover at this point thinking FFXIV would very easily go the way FFXI in that it would garner a decently large stable community over a decent amount of time.
Things, however, are taking massively way too long for pretty much any MMO player to realistically wait for. They should have assessed whether or not they had the man power and technology to pump out fixes/patches/additions in a realistic time frame, this includes SE responsibility for not pushing back the release date or explain where 6 years of development went, because what we had at release was not a realistic 6 year development track....oh wait they didnt use already perfected technology...
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I can't imagine why anyone who wants to like FFXIV wouldn't just play FFXI instead. It's a better game in every conceivable way and you do SE no favors by supporting a free ****** game instead of a pay to play game that's actually deserving.

Particularly sad are the people who are playing it with the expectation that it will be good later. That's an investment no gamer should ever make... games are supposed to be fun when you play them.
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I see zero point in playing FFXIV right now too. I quit a month after launch because I knew of the downcomings. I think its better to erase 14 from your memory and play the game fresh again when its ready for PS3 launch. Right now u are helping them beta test which is good I suppose but it ruins the "fresh" gameplay since ur 50 and cannot experience the 1-50 with so many changes in the future to classes, content to 50, etc.
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I can't imagine why anyone who wants to like FFXIV wouldn't just play FFXI instead. It's a better game in every conceivable way and you do SE no favors by supporting a free sh*tty game instead of a pay to play game that's actually deserving.

Particularly sad are the people who are playing it with the expectation that it will be good later. That's an investment no gamer should ever make... games are supposed to be fun when you play them.



Did you ever think that some players have done all they could in XI or burnt themselves out? I about when Aby was becoming popular, so I was still having to get parties to level... And it was a daunting task even with level synch. The hardcore grind just ruined XI for me so much. I needed X subjob for this main job, needed to do quests for this that and the other. Pre-child life, that was fine, but now, I just can not dedicate mass amounts of time to leveling or even attempt end game/raids. So, please forgive me if I hope this game succeeds... I just want a game that I can play side by side with my husband, a game he wouldn't be so picky about, so yeah I do have some sort of hope invested in it... That and a few grand spent to build a rig to rum the darn thing so it better get better! Lol
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Did you ever think that some players have done all they could in XI or burnt themselves out?


Burnt out, yes, but FFXIV has a shorter fuse that burns more quickly than FFXI. Don't get me wrong, I don't play EITHER.

But I doubt that any players have done all they could. There's just way too much to do. Granted the content is artificially inflated by low drop rates, but XIV is no solution to those who are bored with XI, unless you're dealing with someone who refuses to play anything other than FF MMOs (in which case, you're wasting your time with them, imo).
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Yes I understand the fuse is short for XIV, however having pity on people who are hoping for something to work? I don't think many have an emotional attachment to this game, but maybe instead the money they sank into this? I mean yeah I want this game to work so I can just duo with my husband, but at the same time, I want it to work cause then I kind of feel money on my end would have been wasted for a new comp to run it.

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Yes I understand the fuse is short for XI, however having pity on people who are hoping for something to work? I don't think many have an emotional attachment to this game, but maybe instead the money they sank into this? I mean yeah I want this game to work so I can just duo with my husband, but at the same time, I want it to work cause then I kind of feel money on my end would have been wasted for a new comp to run it.

If you read my other post, it indicates that the dropout rate is slowing down considerably.
Those people who are left now already invested a lot of time in the game in hope for a
brighter future, and are unlikely to drop out until seriously all is lost.

Some also believe that by leveling up now they will gain a significant advantage for
when the "real" game starts (which, ironically, may prevent new players from joining
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I just enjoy logging in every now and then, get some exp, maybe get a level or two every week. The game could actually stay in it's current state for 2 years and I wouldn't reach level cap at the rate I play it, so, meh, I am good:). I feel bad for the people who dove into the game and burned themselves out before the game was flushed out. While it may never be flushed out, I imagine you did not find nearly as much enjoyment in it that I have so far.

Don't get me wrong, I know the game needs ALOT of help/work/rework/rebuild/PFM/ActOfGod, but, I will get my money's worth, and who knows, maybe I will get lucky and the game will have something fun to do before I get truly bored with it.

I did get close to burned out in February, when the quest patch was delayed, then after it's announcement, and release, I realized my expectations were too high. The work that they need to do far exceeds what can be done in the time and level that I was expecting, so I lowered my expectations, and I only log in now in the evenings to get a couple leves done, or on the weekends to run a few quests, or explore areas I haven't gotten to yet.

All and all, I still find a lot to enjoy in the game, and now that I am getting close to high enough to start soloing the NMs that drop the gear I want (ok I will be too high a level to use it:(), but meh, it will be fun to get for my other classes.
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Surely by leaving a game that costs one nothing, to play a game that has a monthly fee... you are infact doing SE a favour.

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Hey Winston,

I cannot say I am at all surprised to be reading this. I hope to see you back when (if) things improve.

If 1.18 sucks, then I will defo be reactivating my XI char and transferring server. Stay in touch bud in case I need the name of the LS ^^

All the best

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Just wanted to pop in to say Hi and Bye to Mr. G. To let you know, we are on the Phoenix server in XI and our linkshell is Black Sun Empire. If you get bored G, we would love to have you join us. I have found many of my old friends that I left 9 months ago and we are having a blast doing the multitude of activities afforded by FFXI. Also, as a point of clarification, I will be back to check out patch 1.18, but I have lowered my expectations and I don't know how long I will stay. Please tell any of our ls mates that do not already know, that I will be back. Meanwhile, come play with us in XI :)
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Well, since this topic was on the hot read, I though I would look at it, and as I am reading I realize "hey, I have heard this quote about the 9 month no baby thing before", and so I look at your sig and say "yep, one of my LS mates who left yesterday". While I have only been in Tant for a few days, and never got to know you, I hope to see you around again someday, (but I do understand your feelings being a vet XI player myself). Take Care Winston. :D
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We'll miss you~ :'(

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Pre-child life, that was fine, but now, I just can not dedicate mass amounts of time to leveling or even attempt end game/raids. So, please forgive me if I hope this game succeeds... I just want a game that I can play side by side with my husband, a game he wouldn't be so picky about, so yeah I do have some sort of hope invested in it... That and a few grand spent to build a rig to rum the darn thing so it better get better! Lol


That's exactly why I still want FFXIV to survive. It promised to be a casual friendly MMO that would fit with my drastically lessened playtime, but still offer cooprative (strategic) party play.

Something about party hubs and being able to get a party easily. Behest works as a version of autoparty, when some groups stick together for Leves. Too bad the Leves themseleves get stale so quickly.

The only game that I've played that really offers drop-in drop-out instant party is PSO (and later PSU). That's why I like instances. They are time friendly short missions, some sort of matchmaking, with a boss, and then a stopping point if I have to do kid stuff like dinner or bedtime.

Hopefully the new dungeons will provide exactly what I was hoping for all along.
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This! That would be me... I just want to get rid of the grind so maybe later down the line I can enjoy this game. (not end game but more main scenarios from future expansion sort of deals).

Smashington, just a question, doesn't WoW have something very similar? A friend of mine plays (same type of life as me... Mom of 2, husband, family) and she says that why she has stuck with WoW and they have the type of dungeon finder party thingie you mention??
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This! That would be me... I just want to get rid of the grind so maybe later down the line I can enjoy this game. (not end game but more main scenarios from future expansion sort of deals).

Smashington, just a question, doesn't WoW have something very similar? A friend of mine plays (same type of life as me... Mom of 2, husband, family) and she says that why she has stuck with WoW and they have the type of dungeon finder party thingie you mention??


WoW has a system that builds you a party, finds you an appropriate dungeon, teleports you inside of it, and even grants you a stat bonus and a "rare item" for letting it do so.

I can see how it's a nice system for a casual mother, but things are pretty shallow if you want something besides instances runs and kill/collect quests, unfortunately. Every time I've tried to play, I get burned out on the simplicity, repetition, and sheer ease of it all. WoW is definitely a very casual game, and it is best played as such; I was simply looking for the wrong things in it.
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I just want to get rid of the grind so maybe later down the line I can enjoy this game.


You've just pinpointed one of the game's primary problems. Why should we have to sit around and punch mobs in the face repeatedly and run our leves until we hit level cap before there's something to do? FFXI had the same problem where there just wasn't any beneficial, or really even particularly interesting, content until you hit 75, then you were bombarded with stuff to do from every **** expansion. Why they've decided not to add dungeons or other content that'll span over almost every level blows my mind. I honestly question what they could have thought people would have wanted when they developed this game. It seems like they're willing to bend somewhat with their rank 30 dungeon, but god ****, the way the drag their asses when it comes to delivering content is staggering.
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Yeah when I played XI I always wondered why they didn't have content that spanned the levels as well. When I played, I just never felt any real accomplishments, until I hit 75... Going to fight Shen for the first time... Fun times, but I wish they would have some sort of content that went across all levels so I wouldn't feel like I was hacking and slashing to the top just to enjoy something. I want to see story and lore like with the missions from sandie or windie, every few levels, time to do a mission! What sort of things can I do for my home nation! :P... Not just punch... Punch... Punch again... Yay...
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#42 Jun 17 2011 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Smashington, just a question, doesn't WoW have something very similar? A friend of mine plays (same type of life as me... Mom of 2, husband, family) and she says that why she has stuck with WoW and they have the type of dungeon finder party thingie you mention??


Yes, true, good call. I somehow doubt that SE will be able to recreate the functionality of the instanced dungeon matchmaking. But it really is ideal for getting in a quick 1-hour party experience.

Also, some posters really dislike that system, although I'm not exactly sure why.

The description of the dungeons makes me hopeful. I would have expected SE to be integrating the systems from other MMO's that work well, but they don't seem to be watching the rest of the world's progress. Maybe they thought they could do better with Leves.

If there were maybe 200 more available Leves, including mini-bosses and varied completion requirements, and there was no limit on how many leves you could do, then maybe that sysytem would work better. Leves were fun at first remember?

At the very least, easing some of the laughable restrcitions to player options would be a step in the right direction. And that could be done now.


#43 Jun 17 2011 at 1:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, true, good call. I somehow doubt that SE will be able to recreate the functionality of the instanced dungeon matchmaking.


Probably because SE has no idea which roles their classes are capable of performing...
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#44 Jun 17 2011 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
Matchmaking is a beast all in itself and I don't think SE has the slightest idea what it's all about. Maybe it's a western idea to just shove random people together automatically.

I understand the coding is intense and complicated to make it function quickly and reliably. I don't think SE has spent even one once of manpower to consider it for FFXIV. They are so far behind on that particular front, well, I think the performance of specific class roles is the least of the challenges they would face.
#45 Jun 17 2011 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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WoW/RIFT's dungeon finder system could work in FFXIV. Unfortunately, it'd take SE months just to get that one feature implemented. It's too bad too--I really enjoyed grouping for behests.
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#46 Jun 17 2011 at 5:28 PM Rating: Default
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#47 Jun 18 2011 at 12:45 AM Rating: Good
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Particularly sad are the people who are playing it with the expectation that it will be good later.


Yes I understand the fuse is short for XIV, however having pity on people who are hoping for something to work? I don't think many have an emotional attachment to this game, but maybe instead the money they sank into this? I mean yeah I want this game to work so I can just duo with my husband, but at the same time, I want it to work cause then I kind of feel money on my end would have been wasted for a new comp to run it.

Edited, Jun 17th 2011 8:39am by LillithaFenimore


This mentality reminds me of the sunk cost fallacy. Not completely analogous, but pretty much the same thing.

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It's a better game in every conceivable way and you do SE no favors by supporting a free sh*tty game instead of a pay to play game that's actually deserving


Surely by leaving a game that costs one nothing, to play a game that has a monthly fee... you are infact doing SE a favour.



You have to look at it from SE's perspective if you're trying to be supportive of them. Constructive feedback would be to support what they do well and not be a patron of a poor service.
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#48 Jun 18 2011 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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Don't go now! Firelands is coming out so soon! . . Oh wait that's that other game.. the one with things to do in it and a company that cares about it's customers. Nevermind.
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#49 Jun 18 2011 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
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Don't go now! Firelands is coming out so soon! . . Oh wait that's that other game.. the one with things to do in it and a company that cares about it's customers. Nevermind.


To be fair, one game's been out 9 months, ones been out 7+ years... but yeah, SE certainly does have the track record to support that.

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