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#1 Jun 17 2011 at 10:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello Naoki_Yoshida and SE

Great job on the 1.18. The video has really pumped me up, and I look forward to some of the new animations. I play pugilist and I'm sure there will be some nice attacks (Leg sweep kick attack:))You have inspired me to hop back upon Fabul and gain a few levels. I'm nearing Physical Level 50 whcih I'm excited about (I hope I dont lose everything if Physical Levels are stripped:S) Keep up the good work!!

Not onto the purpose of this thread: One thing I always enjoyed with FF was a great config to play around with, having many options like tintint windows, etc. My hope is that you might add in a config option to allow adventurers to change music to their favorite theme. I'm sure many adventurers would welcome the option of hearing Celtic Moon's Rydia theme or Terra's while journeying throughout Thanalan, and the Mystic Forest through Gridania. What I picture working is: whichever scenario one is in, the music (.wav) would appear in config menu (i.e. Gridania's Levequest) and be customizible (i.e. set to classic 8-bit fight .wav).

The music in FFXIV is great, but there are also many classic FF themes that I have listened to for many years and would love to enjoy for many more.
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#2 Jun 18 2011 at 1:27 AM Rating: Good
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Doesn't fit with the lore, I don't like the idea.

However, I would like to see maybe like a levequest involving Gilgamesh and they put a XIV rendition of "Battle on the Big Bridge" or something.
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#3 Jun 18 2011 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, sub-defaulted for making a suggestion?

OP: Assuming there is no file checking, you could do that in FFXI by .dat switching. I imagine the same could be done for FFXIV, though I haven't seen it actually done. While you wouldn't be able to do it on the fly, it can be done.
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#4 Jun 18 2011 at 6:07 AM Rating: Good
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Well you can always post game suggestions at their official forums. But aren't MP3 players/client a better choice?
#5 Jun 18 2011 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I remember something like that with XI, but it would be nice if SE just opened this option up to us, instead of making us rely on cracking or 3rd party software that might compromize our agreements.

Yeah, you can always listen to mp3 in the background, but it would be nice to have the music change with the zone and in combat.

Once upon a time, someone would get sub-defaulted for suggesting de/buff wear duration timers...
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#6 Jun 18 2011 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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its not a realistic suggestion. Music that belongs to other games, belongs in those games. They spent a bunch of money on a FFXIV soundtrack, and they're not going to give you the option to change it out, or worry about repaying royalties or any other fees for older music. I'm sure someone can tell you how to change the .dat or you can run winamp.
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#7 Jun 18 2011 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
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if you really want to do this, play in windowed mode with the music turned off and go on youtube or whatever and play the music in the background.

and for those saying that it hurts the lore and whatever, if it does for you then obviously don't change it.

for ffxi i often used windower to swap music i didnt like with cooler ones, but the only music options i had was for what was already in the game. it worked nicely for those zones with only the sound of the wind.

i like the idea but know that it won't happen. If it did though, it would have to be only for tracks already in the game.

i would like to know though why anyone would be opposed to this. it's not like you would have to change the music if you didn't want to. why would you deny someone a better game experience if it doesn't effect you at all?
#8 Jun 18 2011 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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" I'm sure someone can tell you how to change the .dat or you can run winamp. "

This is my point. People have been doing this for many years with workarounds and third party software. I'm sure SE frowns upon swaping out files for others illigitamently, especially given the abuse of this practice in FFXI for NM hunting (via image swapping). Right on time, people are here to take things out of contex and bash it. Copywrites? really? Games have let you listen to your own music for years. I would like to listen to what I want and have it interact with the game. Iron Maiden might be great for battle, but maybe Pink Floyd in town. You can put on your Lady Gaga or whatever it is your into. I don't think Sony and Microsoft are paying out too many royalties to every potential artist someone might listen to during gameplay on PS3 and XBox.

What people are describing with swapping .dat files is esscentially hacking the game. I don't want to have to do that to enjoy the game on par with others. Anyone notice how FFXIV came integrated with Windower, when it was illegal in FFXI. What you are telling me is the equivalent of saying that the only possible solution to fullscreen in FFXI is use of Windower, and that SE should never think of allowing a windowed mode. The visual benefits of third party software have been developed for us in FFXIV allowing for uncompromised software integrity. I want the audio benefits as well integrated, so that I don't have to compromise my software integrity. 100% realistic request. Games have had customizable music for a long time.
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#9 Jun 18 2011 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
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Easy, SE to implement in-game music player for .dat file, then sell other FF games OST in form of .dat file with Crysta, like an Item Shop. They probably will cash in millions, and more people will be *******
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#10 Jun 18 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
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1.) Since you cannot help but gain physical levels, they're pointless. Everyone who ranks up a class mandatorily raises physical level at the same time, so it's not losing anything as long as you keep your ranks.

2.) I don't care if you thought Sephiroth's theme was super epic, you don't get to hear it when fighting some jellyfish for a leve; I don't care if Cecil's plight was just so heartbreaking, his theme is not also the theme of your Gladiator. Not every Final Fantasy is that other Final Fantasy that you really liked. Cloud is busy; he can't make guest appearances in every game.
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#11 Jun 18 2011 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
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KaneKitty wrote:
1.) Since you cannot help but gain physical levels, they're pointless. Everyone who ranks up a class mandatorily raises physical level at the same time, so it's not losing anything as long as you keep your ranks.

2.) I don't care if you thought Sephiroth's theme was super epic, you don't get to hear it when fighting some jellyfish for a leve; I don't care if Cecil's plight was just so heartbreaking, his theme is not also the theme of your Gladiator. Not every Final Fantasy is that other Final Fantasy that you really liked. Cloud is busy; he can't make guest appearances in every game.


yes unfortunately only Gilgamesh knows how the Space Rift Anomaly works.
#12 Jun 19 2011 at 4:35 AM Rating: Decent
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FelixValmont wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
1.) Since you cannot help but gain physical levels, they're pointless. Everyone who ranks up a class mandatorily raises physical level at the same time, so it's not losing anything as long as you keep your ranks.

2.) I don't care if you thought Sephiroth's theme was super epic, you don't get to hear it when fighting some jellyfish for a leve; I don't care if Cecil's plight was just so heartbreaking, his theme is not also the theme of your Gladiator. Not every Final Fantasy is that other Final Fantasy that you really liked. Cloud is busy; he can't make guest appearances in every game.


yes unfortunately only Gilgamesh knows how the Space Rift Anomaly works.


And Cid, let's not forget Cid!

Oh, oh and Biggs and Wedge, Luke Skywalker's wing-men. Final Fantasy is where they went to heaven. =P
#13 Jun 19 2011 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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ABSOLUTELY NO TO CID - HE WON't FIT WITH THE LORE!!!

Haha, JK. Bring him onboard to.
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#14 Jun 19 2011 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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I seems some people do not realize that a guy named Cid is not actually the same Cid in every game. When Cid appears, he has a different last name - he's not always Cid Fabul, for example. He's been different jobs, different ages, **** even a couple different species* throughout the series.

There's a difference between requesting a character named Cid appear as part of the FF tradition, and requesting that Cid Highwind fly (or float :P) through Eorzea on the Tiny Bronco.

*oglop and frog.
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#15 Jun 19 2011 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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There tends to be more to him than just his name. Cid is usually related to the game's flying transportation, or at the very least associated in some way with the game's mechanical/technological aspect. Also, he tends to be older than the main characters, and a fatherly figure. Not always obviously, but often enough to be noteworthy.

Once, he was even played by Robin Williams.
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#16 Jun 19 2011 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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KaneKitty wrote:
1.) Since you cannot help but gain physical levels, they're pointless. Everyone who ranks up a class mandatorily raises physical level at the same time, so it's not losing anything as long as you keep your ranks.

2.) I don't care if you thought Sephiroth's theme was super epic, you don't get to hear it when fighting some jellyfish for a leve; I don't care if Cecil's plight was just so heartbreaking, his theme is not also the theme of your Gladiator. Not every Final Fantasy is that other Final Fantasy that you really liked. Cloud is busy; he can't make guest appearances in every game.


i could if i wanted to. all i need to do is have youtube open while im playing. and it's not hacking the game to do that.

if i enjoy it, i'm going to do it. Even if you think sephiroth's theme shouldn't be used while i'm having an epic battle against a level 1 harvesting point.
#17 Jun 19 2011 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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lolgaxe wrote:
There tends to be more to him than just his name. Cid is usually related to the game's flying transportation, or at the very least associated in some way with the game's mechanical/technological aspect. Also, he tends to be older than the main characters, and a fatherly figure. Not always obviously, but often enough to be noteworthy.

Once, he was even played by Robin Williams.


I agree with this. If one was to spend the time and utterly analyze aspects of character development, character roles are broken into archetypes (such as the White Knight). Cid represents a unique archetype of his own which transends FF in the same manner the White Knight does. Yes different, but also the same.
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ForceOfMeh wrote:
FelixValmont wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
1.) Since you cannot help but gain physical levels, they're pointless. Everyone who ranks up a class mandatorily raises physical level at the same time, so it's not losing anything as long as you keep your ranks.

2.) I don't care if you thought Sephiroth's theme was super epic, you don't get to hear it when fighting some jellyfish for a leve; I don't care if Cecil's plight was just so heartbreaking, his theme is not also the theme of your Gladiator. Not every Final Fantasy is that other Final Fantasy that you really liked. Cloud is busy; he can't make guest appearances in every game.


yes unfortunately only Gilgamesh knows how the Space Rift Anomaly works.


And Cid, let's not forget Cid!

Oh, oh and Biggs and Wedge, Luke Skywalker's wing-men. Final Fantasy is where they went to heaven. =P


ForceOfMeh wrote:
FelixValmont wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
1.) Since you cannot help but gain physical levels, they're pointless. Everyone who ranks up a class mandatorily raises physical level at the same time, so it's not losing anything as long as you keep your ranks.

2.) I don't care if you thought Sephiroth's theme was super epic, you don't get to hear it when fighting some jellyfish for a leve; I don't care if Cecil's plight was just so heartbreaking, his theme is not also the theme of your Gladiator. Not every Final Fantasy is that other Final Fantasy that you really liked. Cloud is busy; he can't make guest appearances in every game.


yes unfortunately only Gilgamesh knows how the Space Rift Anomaly works.


And Cid, let's not forget Cid!

Oh, oh and Biggs and Wedge, Luke Skywalker's wing-men. Final Fantasy is where they went to heaven. =P


True but Gilgamesh has stayed roughly the same through all the numbered series. while Cid has been a different man Either good bad or neutral is associated with technical advancement or Elite leadership. while Wedge and Biggs Are parody relief and often associated with a Militia background, still however they are different people.

if im not mistaken Cid is very much in FFXIV, a netural airship engineer or leader for the garlean empire i don't know which, but he is definitely in game or at least in the database.
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#19 Jun 20 2011 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Having not played many of the newer titles (not sure of his role in 12/13). I've nevery really taken Cid to be neutral or bad, just rather complex. For myself, Cid has always represented the older generation's resistence against evil, but has grown tired and perhaps worn and beaten at times,; Upon crossing paths with our heros, hope is reinvigorated in him against all odds. Someone mentioned the grandfather figure, and I think it is pretty much the case. Cid represents the handoff of hope from one generation to the next. But he also represents the answered prayer in this sense too, because after a lifelong fruitless struggle against evil and (sometimes) when the torch of hope is its dimmest, the next generation heros arrive to take and fuel the torch. For Cid, he now can rest easy knowing that evil will be resisted after his passing and that his labours were not all for nothing; he sees the fruits of his life's labour in our heros, and hope is passed onward. As I write this, I am thinking of the yournger Cid in 7, but I feel that he still fits in with this archetype. If in each game we see a slightly varied version of this character, I suppose it would also be possible to see him in younger years while still fighting vigourously with the resistance in a similar way we see the Fool and the Hermit.

In this repect, escentially we are all playing the role of the 'Jack of all trades' Cid. We are all resisting the tides of evil threatening FFXIV. We all fight for this games survival that there is a future. We all hope and pray for it's future. We are starting to grow tired and worn, some begining to have doubts. Was it all for nothing? We are given promises of hope. Will Eorzea perish with us? Where is our hero?

Edited, Jun 20th 2011 8:39am by WolfOak
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#20 Jun 20 2011 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Cid was a loony scientist in 12, and a bad guy. he was a bad guy in 13, first young Cid btw. in Type-0 Cid is a war mongering bad guy.

the bad guy Cid in 12 was cool. the rest of the Cids suck...not becuase there don't make good bad guys. but because his role in the FF franchise was lost. its like you not fighting Cid at all just a guy that happens to have the name.
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#21 Jun 20 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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FelixValmont wrote:
he was a bad guy in 13, first young Cid btw.
Second. This one was first.

Edited, Jun 20th 2011 6:05pm by lolgaxe
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lolgaxe wrote:
FelixValmont wrote:
he was a bad guy in 13, first young Cid btw.
Second. This one was first.

Edited, Jun 20th 2011 6:05pm by lolgaxe



i was referring to the number series, but i guess if you wanted too include the animated series you would be right.
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#23 Jun 20 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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FelixValmont wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
FelixValmont wrote:
he was a bad guy in 13, first young Cid btw.
Second. This one was first.

Edited, Jun 20th 2011 6:05pm by lolgaxe



i was referring to the number series, but i guess if you wanted too include the animated series you would be right.


Wow... those are some tight, short shorts.
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