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#1 Jun 28 2011 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm thinking about buying a new computer soon.

I found this website that sells a computer with the spec below for $1149

• Intel® SandyBridge Core i7-2600K
• FREE Liquid CPU Cooling
• 4GB DDR3 1333 1600 Memory
• AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
• 1TB 7200RPM SATA-III HDD
• 24X DVD+/-RW

I was think buying the computer with customizing with NVIDIA GEFORCE TX 560 super clocked.

how well do you think this computer will handle FF14?
and do you think I can get a computer cheaper from a different place?

I don't know how to build a computer by myself.
thank you.
#2 Jun 29 2011 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I posted mine here:
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1309216522218766772#3

Correct me if I'm wrong but 4gb only is better suited to AMD as it's dual channel, where as intel is triple channel. In terms of actual throughput you wont notice much difference between 4gb/6gb, but if you can swing 12gb (~70-80$) for the full set then you will see a jump in at least everyday use and games.

I pull ~60 fps. Today in lots of rain/weather and large group of people I was getting 45-50fps, still very smooth :)
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#3 Jun 29 2011 at 12:07 AM Rating: Good
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That computer should handle FFXIV reasonably well, although you won't get 60fps on max settings (to my knowledge it's pretty close to impossible). But all things told, it will handle it as well as any build will. That being said, I have one piece of advice; if you are indeed a computer building amateur, do not get/use the "FREE" Liquid CPU cooling. Unless things have changed drastically since I last built a computer (which admittedly has been a while), liquid cooling, while incredibly effective, is very high maintenance and not something to be used lightly. I'm going to go ahead and post this now for expedience sake, but I'll check your other question and see if there's a cheaper place (my gut says Newegg probably has it cheaper in parts) and get back to you.
#4 Jun 29 2011 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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Alright.... So just doing a cursory glance over Newegg, I was able to make a similar computer for around $1092 but you should take that number with a few grains of salt. For one thing, I was just glancing over pieces, not optimizing each one so it's possible you could find better deals than I did. On the other hand, I also may have left out something that you will need to get (for instance, since you did not mention a monitor, I did not include one in my estimate). So you're mileage may vary.

Edit: Sorry, broken link.

Edited, Jun 29th 2011 2:21am by Hulan
#5 Jun 29 2011 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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Correct me if I'm wrong but 4gb only is better suited to AMD as it's dual channel, where as intel is triple channel. In terms of actual throughput you wont notice much difference between 4gb/6gb, but if you can swing 12gb (~70-80$) for the full set then you will see a jump in at least everyday use and games.


well i better correct you then. ONLY intel socket 1366 is triple channal i.e. 920,930 980 etc etc. Intels i5 and i7 on socket 1156 are dual channel and the new sandy bridge is all dual channel.

4GB is the sweet spot for games as anything more provides no benefit to games but many programs can make heavy use of RAM such as photoshop etc. It really depends on what you intend to use you PC for.

With RAM been dirt cheap at the moment 8GB is a good buy (4x2GB. DDR 1600mhz is all thats needed too anything more and benefits start to drop off rapidly 1333mhz is pretty much the same price as 1600mhz so why buy slower.

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#6 Jun 29 2011 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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BlackstarrStrife wrote:
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Correct me if I'm wrong but 4gb only is better suited to AMD as it's dual channel, where as intel is triple channel. In terms of actual throughput you wont notice much difference between 4gb/6gb, but if you can swing 12gb (~70-80$) for the full set then you will see a jump in at least everyday use and games.


well i better correct you then. ONLY intel socket 1366 is triple channal i.e. 920,930 980 etc etc. Intels i5 and i7 on socket 1156 are dual channel and the new sandy bridge is all dual channel.

4GB is the sweet spot for games as anything more provides no benefit to games but many programs can make heavy use of RAM such as photoshop etc. It really depends on what you intend to use you PC for.

With RAM been dirt cheap at the moment 8GB is a good buy (4x2GB. DDR 1600mhz is all thats needed too anything more and benefits start to drop off rapidly 1333mhz is pretty much the same price as 1600mhz so why buy slower.



HA! lol, interesting and thank you :) I got 12gb last december because it was on special for with mobo, $300 bucks for both :P Honestly I don't think I've ever used that much even running OSX/Win7/Ubuntu all at once with vmware.

They had another set of it for sale, which would bring me upto 24gb, was thinking of putting FFXIV straight into ram, entire dam folder o.O

I do have a question though for anyone here who knows how to do it properly.

CPU: I7-960
Mobo: GA-X58A-UD3R (rev. 2.0)
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3449#sp

RAM: OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 12GB
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-ddr3-pc3-12800-12gb-gold-low-voltage-triple-channel.html

It's running at 1066. How do I make it run faster and properly, without killing my system???

Thanks :D
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=18309
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Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available.

FilthMcNasty wrote:
I endorse this thread.
#7 Jun 29 2011 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Elionara wrote:
They had another set of it for sale, which would bring me upto 24gb, was thinking of putting FFXIV straight into ram
There are many problems with just this section of your post. 12 GB is already massive overkill. ****, 6 GB is a bit much, but pretty standard for triple channel (LGA-1366) memory. Unless you know you're going to be using that rig explicitly for very hefty video editing, you're throwing your money away. You see absolutely no benefit from extra ram, it'll just sit there unused.

And no, you cannot just "put ffxiv straight into ram". Does not work the way you think it does.

taroters wrote:
I'm thinking about buying a new computer soon.

I found this website that sells a computer with the spec below for $1149

• Intel® SandyBridge Core i7-2600K
• FREE Liquid CPU Cooling
• 4GB DDR3 1333 1600 Memory
• AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
• 1TB 7200RPM SATA-III HDD
• 24X DVD+/-RW

I was think buying the computer with customizing with NVIDIA GEFORCE TX 560 super clocked.

how well do you think this computer will handle FF14?
and do you think I can get a computer cheaper from a different place?

I don't know how to build a computer by myself.
thank you.
That should handle it pretty well. Don't expect a miracle though just because you're going for a top tier processor and a higher end GPU. FFXIV is just that poorly made, nothing right now will really, fully handle it.

Building a computer is much easier than you'd think. There are lots of youtube videos that walk through the process step by step, and the motherboard manuals will explain how to install every component. The learning experience alone is worth it, but you also save hundreds of dollars.



Edited, Jun 29th 2011 6:52pm by bsphil
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