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#1 Jul 08 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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From 2003 (PC release) until about 2008. It had it's issues, but IMO still a great game. I had to stop due to lack of time, and am just now looking into getting back into an MMO.

I was tempted to pick up FFXIV at launch, but I know how launches go so I decided to wait. Not even a month later the news hit that it was terrible, etc... You all know the story. I finally picked it up today. I've installed it and played for about two hours. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting (and the graphics are amazing).

Anyway! My main question is this: While I know that this game is supposed to be more focused towards solo than FFXI was, but is there a point to questing? So far there doesn't really seem to be, but that could be my mindset from FFXI where (at first, anyway) most quests weren't really worth doing, and it was just grinding to 9-11, then partying after that. Is the party system similar to FFXI in regards to leveling?

Also, can anyone recommend a good server for someone that plays mostly during the day? I think I saw one person on the entire time - though I did pick the lowest pop server.

Edit - Also, before buying I found TONS of threads from around Feb/March talking about how bad it was doing etc... How is it doing now? I did read that a new big patch is coming this month, but other than that how has it changed (if at all?).

Edited, Jul 8th 2011 4:25pm by ProfessorBob
#2 Jul 08 2011 at 2:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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The quests that will matter for the instanced raids are Imperial Devices (Gridania), Imperial Devices (Limsa Lominsa), Imperial Devices (Ul’dah), Into the Dark (Gridania), Into the Dark (Limsa Lominsa), and Into the Dark (Ul’dah) Link. Depends on your timezone, but you should check out the server forums to get an idea. Look at the linkshell lists and they normally have their times listed. Good Luck.
#3 Jul 08 2011 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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So would you say it is best to skip the quests at first and just focus on grinding?

And at what level should I start looking for groups? Or is this game just mostly solo?

Edited, Jul 8th 2011 5:06pm by ProfessorBob
#4 Jul 08 2011 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
ProfessorBob wrote:
So would you say it is best to skip the quests at first and just focus on grinding?

And at what level should I start looking for groups? Or is this game just mostly solo?

Edited, Jul 8th 2011 5:06pm by ProfessorBob
I've been trying to solo for a bit, and tbh, it's very slow going. Even a duo seems to yield better SP, or at least it's more fun having someone to talk to or something.
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#5 Jul 08 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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Gonna try and answer as best as possible.

- The party system is completely different. Parties are generally restricted to guild leves (mob kill quests), Behests (mob kill event that happens every 30 real life minutes), and Notorious Monsters (though most can be soloed at an appropriate rank). Questing serves no purpose -yet-. From what I understand that quests will eventually be tying into each other, offering lore and the like.

- Rabanastre is a good server, but I'm bias as that is where I and my LS reside. Besaid I hear a lot of RP players go there, so if RP is your deal, try that. Selbina tends to be a fairly high-pop server and I've seen more people there than anywhere. Part of your problem might also be the city you chose. Right now, Ul'Dah is where everyone is. Grid is a ghost town due to the maze of a zone & bad lag issues in it's environment. Limsa Lominsa is a bit better off, but still fairly quiet. Ul'Dah is the central hub for players and if you start there, you will be better off.

- It's slow-going. They're overhauling the game, this will not be done quickly. The first major patch since release will be coming (tentatively) July 21st, it will include a couple "raids" (instanced content a la dungeons, etc.), the addition of Auto Attack and several other quirks (quest hubs out in the zones I believe and other stuff. Go to the Lodestone page for more information). So yea, for this game to be in full swing, we still have probably 6 months - 1 year of work.
#6 Jul 08 2011 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Most of the content starts at r20. This applies to all classes (including non-combat ones). As a new player, I would advise you best strategy is to max out as many leves as possible every 36 hours. If you play intensly, it will take about a 2-4 hour sitting to complete all combat leves. Then take your time and relax a bit while doing crafting leves. Take the time to read where the leve is compleated at, and try to get all crafting leves around the town or nearest camp. With combat ones, basically take the highest availible.

During this whole process, until you get combat classes to 20+ there really isn't a need to party or socialize. Partys will supposidly play an important role at patch 1.18, when dungeons are introduced. You will need to be r25 to enter them, so it might be in your best interst to get combat classes to r25 (which isn't overtly hard). It is also beneficial in this game (as opposed to XI) to have as many classes leveled as possible, so you can rest easy getting one class to r25, and then focusing on another class. It seems the smartest at the moment to try to have a DOM and a DOW at r25 in preperation for the new patch. After that, get as many jobs up to 20 to maximize your content.

The exp grind is in easy mode until r23. Also take advantage of your guardian favour - it is the equivalent to the exp bands from XI. It is better to use them, because they recharge with time, but start out maxed. Try to keep your guardian favour around 30%. When conserving guardian favor, use it for the levequests which spawn the most mobs (i.e. clearing bentbranch.)

To maximize leve rewards, you should grab a teleport to all three towns (make sure you touch the crystals), and travelvia starting in Gridania >> tele to UlDah >> head west to find a ferry (beware of ants) >> Limsa Limosa >> tele back to Gridania. This circuit will maintaint your anima if performed ~1/reset. If the ferry is skipped via teleport, your anima will slowly depleat.

edit :) Also, although I pretty much only play solo and had all jobs at 10 before some major changes (so I could be wrong), I believe what people are referring to as leve-link in only applicable in the higher levels where the exp grinding curve takes a sharp incline. At leves for r0-20, you pretty much just want to pump off as many as you can for the best rewards (Gil & Gear) without worrying about matching up with others.

Edited, Jul 8th 2011 5:46pm by WolfOak
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Honestly, I haven't done most of the quests available. The whole point to the quests is to give you more insight into the lore of Eorzea. There are quests that will give you special items you'll need to hold on to. There isn't a current use for these items, but they will have something to do with future quests they plan to add. I'm guessing it'll have something to do with companies. These may or may not be the ones needed for the new dungeons being added. I've been playing since launch, and the most important thing for new players is the find themselves a good linkshell to join. This will give you people to play with and people to ask questions about things in the game. If you don't join a linkshell (LS), you'll find that soloing is maybe fun until rank 20, but after that its just a grind. If I wasn't in an awsome LS, I would have quit a LOOOOONG time ago. You'll find yourself leveling up your character in different classes, about 99.5% of the time. The last .5% is spent questing and/or levs. It's fun to level up to 50, but once you're there, you'll find that there's nothing else to do except start leveling up another class.

I don't mean to make the game sound horrible, but this is the truth. Crafting is boring and ranking up is a mindless grind at the moment. The best thing about this game is playing with other people. If you choose to solo and you find you don't like the game, I'd have to say your skipping the best part of the game. If you don't play with other people, chances are you'll find yourself playing another game within a month or two.
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#9 Jul 09 2011 at 2:10 AM Rating: Decent
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ProfessorBob wrote:
So would you say it is best to skip the quests at first and just focus on grinding?

And at what level should I start looking for groups? Or is this game just mostly solo?


I would suggest finding what makes you happy first and then moving from there. If you do mostly grinding with the game as it is now it will leave a bad taste in your mouth. Also, you should take note that a lot of things are going to change come the new patch around July 21 (hopefully lulz), things will work differently like the Disciple of War classes (auto-attack being added) and soloing (leves are being adjusted even more towards solo play).

As for grouping, you can start at any rank so long as you have people to play with. Most people don't join random groups outside of Behest. If you have an LS or even a group of people to static with you will be able to link leves and increase the SP you get. Other than that you can solo leves but it tends to get a bit repetitive.

I for one started ranking up Archer but got bored quickly and then went back to just leveling Disciples of the Land and Disciples of the Hand but I get more enjoyment right now from gathering and crafting than I do killing critters. You may get more enjoyment from stabbing critters in the eye, like I said, for now just do what makes you happy and get a group of people to talk to if you can.

Lastly, the main story quests can be done on any class, that includes Disciples of the Land and Hand.
#10 Jul 09 2011 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for all of the amazing answers everyone!

I've been playing a little more and all of the advice helped a lot.

Though I do think my next step is stopping playing and finding an amazing guide (or the wiki) and just reading about all that this game is. One thing for sure is that I have yet to see a game like this one. Hopefully that is a good thing lol
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