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#1 Jul 16 2011 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good

So I'm leveling a Lancer, and it's about time for me to have a new weapon so I head to the Market Wards and see what I can find. The only thing in stock is 30 ranks higher than I am and costs over 100,000 gil. That is obviously not happening.

So I take to the internet in search of the seeming mythical rank 10+ lance. I find a Brass Spear and take a gander at the recipe. The materials don't seem like that big of a deal, but it says I need Goldsmithing skill 21. That is twice what my Lancer is.

I know there aren't traditional weapon shops in this game, but is it really necessary to level my crafting skills so much just to get a new weapon? Is there no other way around it?

I would prefer to spend more time killing and less time knitting and forging.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you.
#2 Jul 16 2011 at 9:40 PM Rating: Good
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100k once you hit higher levels is a very low amount of gil.

Just starting off is tough, it would be best for you to find a good linkshell and ask to borrow a lance someone is no longer using. Or see if one of the crafters in the shell have the mats lying around to make it.

You could also farm up some of the mats to make it I am sure.

Buying the materials from the wards, then getting them crafted is also a good option. It will save you money usually as well.

Its tough getting started, but once you get past rank 30, the money will come rolling in.
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#3 Jul 16 2011 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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Bronze Spear and Brass Spear, Ranks 6 and 16 respectively, can both be purchased from vendors in any city. The latter is about 94k, but at least it's less than 100k and will always be available.
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#4 Jul 16 2011 at 9:54 PM Rating: Good
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That brass spear is sold by an NPC in the middle of the battlecraft ward, but the npc prices suck as well. It's 94,080.

Some of that fast-paced leveling you can do early on has some drawbacks like that. You can do leves & behests to gain ranks fast, but then when you want to upgrade you really don't have a ton of gil or stuff to sell. If I was going to start a new character that wasn't going to craft much, if at all, I would pass on the fast early leveling through behests/leves and do some actual grinding. Which is also fairly fast, but more importantly you get mats & shards/crystals to sell.

#5 Jul 16 2011 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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You may also want to see if there's a goldsmith on your server that will make the weapon for you. I've got armorsmith to 50 on my server, but I rarely make the lower level stuff because it doesn't sell as fast, or people undercut with their used lowbie armor--but I'm always happy to take commissions from people to make gear! I wouldn't be surprised if you had crafters on your server in a similar situation. (That could make you a lance for much less than 94k lol) Good luck!
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#6 Jul 16 2011 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
TwistedOwl wrote:
That brass spear is sold by an NPC in the middle of the battlecraft ward, but the npc prices suck as well. It's 94,080.

I had no idea there were NPC vendors in the actual wards. Thanks so much.

I spent the last hour mining. At first I thought it sucked but once I realized I was getting physical exp as well as mining exp, I figured it wouldn't be to bad.

Thanks everyone for all the advice.
#7 Jul 17 2011 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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with the way the game is now, i would recomend just skipping a bunch of spears and using that starter spear until you can get one within your level eventually.

i did that for my starting job and saved enough gil to buy anything i needed. gil around 40 starts becoming rediculously easy to get.

i know some people like to be as good as they can be all the time, but with the wards being empty it's hard to find gear your looking for sometims.
#8 Jul 17 2011 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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Keysofgaruda wrote:
with the wards being empty it's hard to find gear your looking for sometims.

That being said, Brass Spear is ridiculously easy to make nowadays -- it was a bit more of a struggle when everyone was new and just starting out, but these days, I'm pretty sure most people who love crafting will have all the needed crafts high enough to make the whole thing themselves...

And then you can always just buy the bronze and upgrade to brass if you're too lazy for the full craft, which takes all one goldsmith to do, with mats they should always have on hand... at least until 1.18.

18k + some brass nuggets, brass rivets and some tip would still be way cheaper that buying the 98k vendor one.

Also, to the OP, you may want to try and find some help and go for Crimson Tide next; you'd need to kill a "mini NM" roselet, Barometz found north of Bloodshore.

You'll likely get lucky and snag some free Brass Preserves while you're at it.
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#9 Jul 17 2011 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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The only Lancer weapon for sale is 30 ranks above you..? What kind of server are you on o.O

#10 Jul 18 2011 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
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I had similar trouble finding basic hemp clothes for my new chars I was playing around with. No one sold them at all.

So I took out the char I had already leveled and made a bunch of them and traded them back and forth using my retainers in a slow market... and then put them up for sale as well.

They sold pretty quickly too.

I think most people who were interested in crafting at all have gotten to be higher leveled now and are much less interested in making lowbie stuff... cause even though you can sell it and make some gil - the gil for time reward is pretty crappy compared to like anything else available.
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