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#1 Jul 23 2011 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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So we ran the R25 dungeon last night and completed it.

I see a Gla dagger drop into the pool and tell everyone to lot on it if they need it. 2 people need it but it's only in my lot pool.

No one else got anything and now I have this rank 30 Gla dagger....

So the question is.. what happened? Did I (party leader) set lot distribution incorrectly or is the loot only distributed to the person who clicks the chest, or is it just completely random per person?





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#2 Jul 23 2011 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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i have not tried out the dungeons, but loot in general falls to random peoples loot list, and it's up to those people to take it or give it to someone else.

so there is no real loot distribution yet. one that can't be abused anyway.

obviously this system has flaws and am hoping it gets changed when the serious end game comes out.
#3 Jul 23 2011 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Well is there a way to give a RA/Untradable item to someone from the loot list menu? That's the main problem is these items are untradable.
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#4 Jul 23 2011 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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IDK why loot distribution doesn't do a Monster Hunter type set up. You get a random chance at certain parts to complete a full item. Everyone gets the same number of chances independent of each other. You can even have people do different dungeons or go down different routs for different parts, and still keep the rewards random enough to keep incentive going.

MMO's have all suffered so much drama over loot distribution and in 1000+ hours of monster hunter i've never seen anyone quit the game over the distribution system.
#5 Jul 23 2011 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Keysofgaruda wrote:
so there is no real loot distribution yet. one that can't be abused anyway.


It's hard to come up with a system that can't be abused in some way. Certainly in FFXI, you could find yourself booted from a party the moment any loot drops or a disenfranchised party leader in an alliance could make sure no one gets anything by breaking the alliance, among other things.

At some level there needs to be some trust among the people you go with. At least in FFXIV you can't be screwed out of a chance for any particular drop by another member, and it levels the playing field of trust for everyone in the party.
#6 Jul 23 2011 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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As long as an item is in the loot pool you can transfer it to someone else. So if you had a Gladiator dagger but had no plans on leveling it you should be able to give it to someone else. While it would be nice if they had the same lotting system as XI, I think they figure people won't be doing the "random" party member thing when it comes to raids and it would be with people you trust and rely on so something like lotting wouldn't be an issue.

Though if I'm wrong and you are unable to give people a rare/ex item if it's still in loot pool I'd be surprised since I know you use to be able to do that.
#7 Jul 23 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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You can give an item that's unique/un-tradeable to another party member if it's in your loot pool. I know this for sure because I was helping LS members get the Loyalist's Bliaud (which is unique/un-tradeable) from Downy and the item landed in my loot pool. I was able to select the item from my loot pool and give directly to the party member that needed it.

Unfortunately I agree this system can be confusing and unintuitive to someone who doesn't know about it so I guess just be sure your party members realize this ahead of time when going after rare loot, especially newer players. It would obviously suck if someone decided to go AFK right after the loot drop without realizing that the item is sitting in their loot pool...

Edited, Jul 23rd 2011 2:23pm by zpanda
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#8 Jul 24 2011 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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zpanda wrote:
You can give an item that's unique/un-tradeable to another party member if it's in your loot pool. I know this for sure because I was helping LS members get the Loyalist's Bliaud (which is unique/un-tradeable) from Downy and the item landed in my loot pool. I was able to select the item from my loot pool and give directly to the party member that needed it.

Unfortunately I agree this system can be confusing and unintuitive to someone who doesn't know about it so I guess just be sure your party members realize this ahead of time when going after rare loot, especially newer players. It would obviously suck if someone decided to go AFK right after the loot drop without realizing that the item is sitting in their loot pool...

Edited, Jul 23rd 2011 2:23pm by zpanda



Yea I noticed that this seems to be the way it is now even in solo play. There is a loot pool, and you have x amount of time to give it to someone else. Strange in solo play that things don't just drop, but I guess they thought this would be a good idea.

I don't think that the FFXI system was abused nearly as much as people claim. There was the occasional jerk and loud threads were made over them, but the ratio of jerks to parties that went on over the years with no problems is so trivial that I don't even know why people bring it up as if it was a major exploit.

Some things are still too cumbersome - this is one of them - but as they keep testing and playing it themselves I'm sure they will get just as annoyed as we are and it will go away.
#9 Jul 24 2011 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
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There is no lot system in the game. The item will drop into someone's bank and then if the said person doesn't want it, they can stand near someone who does and choose to "give" it to someone else. It should then move into someone else's pool. Once it enters someone's inventory, you can't trade/give it to anybody else since it is unique/untradeable. You can get the give option when you go to your loot list and click on the item. You'll get various choices and give should be one of them.
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#10 Jul 24 2011 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks, I just saw that now. Now I feel bad because the 2 other players would have liked it, but none of us knew you could give it away from the loot menu. It's not an intuitive system...
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#11 Jul 24 2011 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
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If it's still in your Loot Window, absolutely. Just click on the Item, click Give and choose who. Once it is in your Inventory Window though, it's Untradeable. Also because of how Dungeon works, DO NOT exit the Dungeon until everyone is satisfied with the loot. Exiting the dungeon will automatically put items from Loot window into Inventory window, or discard them if your Inventory is full.
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