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#1 Aug 03 2011 at 5:22 AM Rating: Decent
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[dev1124] Hiding Main Hand Arm & Tool Graphics
•[dev1124] Hiding Main Hand Arm & Tool Graphics
* The following addition is planned for the /display text command in 1.18a, with further functionality scheduled for 1.19.
This feature is still in development, and therefore subject to change.

The gear slot main will be added.

/display main on – Display main hand arms and tools at all times.
/display main off – Hide main hand arms and tools while in passive mode.
Functionality
•When set to off, the main hand arms and tools of all PCs in passive mode will be hidden.
•/display settings made by you are visible on your computer only. For example, if your main hand display is set to off, your gear will still be visible to other players.
•/display settings will reset upon logging out.
*For 1.19, we plan to enhance this feature to reflect your /display settings on all other player’s computers. Also, personal /display settings will be saved upon logging out.
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#2 Aug 03 2011 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I suppose this is different from /display head on/off, then, because that one affects how others see you.
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I suppose this is different from /display head on/off, then, because that one affects how others see you.


until 1.19.. i don't real care no benefit or improvement... cosmetics.
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#4 Aug 03 2011 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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Don't really understand what the point of this is if others can't see it... A bit dumb honestly.
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RamseySylph wrote:
Don't really understand what the point of this is if others can't see it... A bit dumb honestly.


I guess for bikini screenshot purposes? o_O
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Don't really understand what the point of this is if others can't see it... A bit dumb honestly.


Potentially reducing GPU/CPU proccessing for the end user... that's the only thing I can think of.
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Perrin, ****** Superhero wrote:
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Don't really understand what the point of this is if others can't see it... A bit dumb honestly.


Potentially reducing GPU/CPU proccessing for the end user... that's the only thing I can think of.


Sadly, it really does have to do with bikinis. Just like people who cried all through beta that head gear covered their face and hair, people complained on the official forums that summer affair just wouldn't look right with a bulky main hand equipment hanging off them.

Purely a fashion thing, which is why it is only in effect in passive mode.
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"/display main off – Hide main hand arms and tools while in passive mode. "

O.O Hide your arms?
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"/display main off – Hide main hand arms and tools while in passive mode. "

O.O Hide your arms?

Just the one your dominant (main) hand is attached to. ^.^/
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Purely a fashion thing, which is why it is only in effect in passive mode.


While I'm scared you're correct... I would think that the weapon/tool/clothing physics draw a bit of ower... but then again we already had a physics of option.
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Perrin, ****** Superhero wrote:
Sephrick wrote:
Purely a fashion thing, which is why it is only in effect in passive mode.


While I'm scared you're correct... I would think that the weapon/tool/clothing physics draw a bit of ower... but then again we already had a physics of option.


Weapons on passive players really have a major performance effect. There's nothing wrong with this being a fashion thing, so is display head, but what I don't get is why this doesn't function the same way. I understand why someone wearing a bathing suit or some other town gear may want to turn their weapon display off, but they would want OTHER people to see them without a weapon as well.

I see no logical reason to make EVERYONE's weapons go away.
#12 Aug 03 2011 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm thinking about the clipping problems between conjurer hat and staves; this seems: 'We don't fix the graphic problem, we hide it...'

Probably in next updates we'll use also the command '/display Miqote tail off'...

PLEASE FIX THE UGLY GRAPHIC GLITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Instead, I rather have the option to display our "Off Hand" tools graphics, like off hand weapon from dual-wielding...
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If displaying the weapons of other players is causing your GPU to overheat you should probably just lower your settings. Why is this a command and not something available in settings menu anyway? Couldn't you achieve the same result (for yourself) by simply removing your weapon?

Good to see SE making great use of their time fixing XIV.
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RamseySylph wrote:
Perrin, ****** Superhero wrote:
Sephrick wrote:
Purely a fashion thing, which is why it is only in effect in passive mode.


While I'm scared you're correct... I would think that the weapon/tool/clothing physics draw a bit of ower... but then again we already had a physics of option.


Weapons on passive players really have a major performance effect. There's nothing wrong with this being a fashion thing, so is display head, but what I don't get is why this doesn't function the same way. I understand why someone wearing a bathing suit or some other town gear may want to turn their weapon display off, but they would want OTHER people to see them without a weapon as well.

I see no logical reason to make EVERYONE's weapons go away.


If youi actually take the time to read the original post you'll see that they intend to have this command work as the head display on a later patch, the whole "will only work on your PC" is a short term fix for the summer thing i think.
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I wasn't aware that anyone needed this.
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let's face it aesthetics in mmo's are just as important in keeping ppl playing as any other aspect in the game. keeps the community just a little less of a sausage fest. im sure this feature is not distracting them too much from more important things, as this task was probably handed to some part of the development team that is completely irrelevant... and it probably took them two seconds.
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I agree. It probably isn't the hardest thing to implement and it's a nice touch. One of the things I liked about XI and am starting to like about XIV is the little touches like that. Heads that look at who you've selected, blinking eyes, and now being able to clean up your appearance a bit. Personally, I walk around as a lancer with a green cotton shirt because it looks cool, but I mostly play now as a Archer (just got 20 yay!) So yeah, for me the aesthetics are part of the allure of this game. I don't know if that makes me a noob (too late, I already am!) but that's how I see it.
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It's fine and swell to throw this in, if it didn't consume too much time to do so...but i'm in the same boat with most everyone else: rather have news on 1.19. It has been a couple of weeks now, one would think a tidbit would be forthcoming soon...not to mention I hope we don't pass the three-month mark. Personally, i'd rather have had the chocos and airships before the dungeons/battle tweaks, but i'm not complaining, progress is progress.
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#20cutsaw, Posted: Aug 07 2011 at 3:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) and one wonders why can't player unequip the main hand slot....
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I personally noticed no difference FPS-wise, but then again i'm not sitting at min. specs for the game...YMMV. It's also pretty silly that this resets itself upon log-out, why they didn't just make it a configuration option is beyond me.
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I personally noticed no difference FPS-wise, but then again i'm not sitting at min. specs for the game...YMMV. It's also pretty silly that this resets itself upon log-out, why they didn't just make it a configuration option is beyond me.


Well supposedly it should function like /display head off in the next major patch. Not entirely sure why it didn't in this patch... You'd think it would be as simple as a copypasta, switch some variables, what with the code for /display head already written.
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and one wonders why can't player unequip the main hand slot....

oh i get it! because they CAN'T. if the player unequip their weapon/tool, what is their 'Class' gonna be? what are they gonna be called? the developers have to code the whole game again.

... this proves that something is seriously wrong with the game system right from the beginning


If the problem lies in creating the ability for someone to have no weapon at all, then SE could just code "no class" as a "class" itself, with their "weapon" being "no weapon," thereby circumventing the problem altogether. Of course, even though that's an easy solution, there's no need to do it because a player wouldn't be able to do anything as a classless character regardless. Thus SE is letting one simply hide their weapon. SE's choice accomplishes the same effect without any complicated (and entirely unnecessary) programming.

There's no indication, at least from this, that there is "something seriously wrong with the game." o_O
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RamseySylph wrote:
Well supposedly it should function like /display head off in the next major patch. Not entirely sure why it didn't in this patch... You'd think it would be as simple as a copypasta, switch some variables, what with the code for /display head already written.

Because unlike helms, this change only applies for out of combat characters, I suppose.

if it was /display pants off, then I'd be confused at why they would act differently..

wait, why am I talking of /display pants off already?
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