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#1 Aug 15 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hi, hello, salutations, meow, et. cetera.

First up, allow me to say that I read (oh all right, glanced) at the stickies here, and find no rule that says, "thou shalt not make a beginner / n00b help thread". So apologies in advance if this thread breaks the forum rules and/or offends the delicate sensibilities of others.

Moving on to the important part: I am starting FFXIV. Complete newbie, no experience whatsoever in this game or FFXI. For the long story of why I'm starting FFXIV...

Me: *admiring screenshots and Mi'qotes* wow, this is nice. Maybe I'll go check out the prices this weekend
UK Bro: hey bro, I have a buddy pass. You want it?
Me: can I say "yes" fast enough?
UK Bro: here ya go
Me: HOLY CHOCOBOS IT WORKS!

And all this happened in 4chan, too. Never underestimate the kindness of strangers


That said, is there a beginner's guide somewhere, preferably one that is up-to-date? I tried to Google, this site's Wiki, etc., but some of the contents there are dubious and I don't know if it still applies with the latest patch. Some points to ponder:

a. how "newbie-friendly" is this game? I am planning to start as an Archer/Lancer first (in b4 "lol archtard", and Lancer because I like long, hard... weapons to "poke" people with), but reading the subforums here ("so you prioritize stat X... take ability from class Y.. ") makes my head spin. Is there hope for someone who needs to bash his head on rocks in order to learn new things?

b. how much of things handled server-side? I hear horror stories of the inventory screen taking 10 seconds to open; is this true, or still true?

c. same thing with (a), but with professions; if I want to take up Carpentry, do I just pick up an axe and start chopping? Are there in-game tutorials?

d. may I ask what is the best (i.e., most populated) servers in EU, US and Oceanic timezones?

e. one advice people gave me yesterday is, "don't play Mi'qote if you want to be taken seriously, 75% of characters are catgirls". So how true is this? I do want people to take me seriously (or at least, not treat me like a walking ***-a-pile), but on the other hand.. catgirls!

Thanking you guys in advance for any help and/or non-trollish replies. FOR THE HO- urm.. what do we have in place for factions here?
#2 Aug 15 2011 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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A and C : i don't remember seeing too much tutorial (i probly skiped it) but i know that the leves that are in the adventures guild has a couple tutorial leaves.

B: i remeber at launch the menus for everything were horrible.. its gotten better sometimes it lags a bit but its not too bad now imo.

D: not sure if its the best but someone on here recommend wutai server to me.. i've found it to be nicely populated at most times i've been on ( which is most hours .. i have wierd sleep)

E: not sure if ppl don't take you seriously or not if your a mithra on here er mi'qote sorry i altho most of the people i've seen running around were cats lol... way i see it put what you like the best for yourself no reason to to like your own character just cause of worry.
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#3 Aug 15 2011 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow lots of questions. I will tell you that there is a tutorial in game. It could be to your benefit to actually use it and read it and not just spam through the text only to ask questions about exactly what you should have read. That said, this game has come a long way and the best way to form the most accurate impression is to play the game yourself. Too many ppl however true their statements may have been "when" they played, those views may be outdated. Play for yourself and you will begin to see why ppl that stuck it out actually stayed. Patch 1.18 and the upcoming powerhouse that is 1.19 will boost this game in a very big way. Enjoy!!! :)
#4 Aug 15 2011 at 10:50 PM Rating: Good
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Amryxx wrote:
a. how "newbie-friendly" is this game? I am planning to start as an Archer/Lancer first (in b4 "lol archtard", and Lancer because I like long, hard... weapons to "poke" people with), but reading the subforums here ("so you prioritize stat X... take ability from class Y.. ") makes my head spin. Is there hope for someone who needs to bash his head on rocks in order to learn new things?
The game has a relatively shallow learning curve, especially if you take things one step at a time and don't try to dive in head first. If you are willing to take a few moments to walk around town and take in the sights, talk to the people, you will have accumulated enough lore and understanding of the world to at least get yourself started.

That being said, there are still a few things hanging on from the launch that are rather unintuitive to new players. For instance, when you gain a skill, it is not immediately placed on your action bar. You must first go into your menu and add these to your usable actions in the Actions & Traits menu before you can... er... use them (sorry, my eloquence ran low there at the end).

Amryxx wrote:
b. how much of things handled server-side? I hear horror stories of the inventory screen taking 10 seconds to open; is this true, or still true?
A lot of the game is still handled server side, but they have made great strides in reducing the general latency of the game. It is still noticeable if you are looking for a finely tuned machine of a game. For an MMO however, the values are now acceptable (although hopefully will see more revision in the near future). I would not say that this would prevent you from enjoying playing.

Amryxx wrote:
c. same thing with (a), but with professions; if I want to take up Carpentry, do I just pick up an axe and start chopping? Are there in-game tutorials?
Some of these things take a little getting used to (like the DoL [Discipline of the Land] classes have a minigame that is not immediately clear). That being said, what is not explained is either self evident, or is not terribly difficult to find out about. If you have any further questions, ask them here and we would be happy to render assistance.

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d. may I ask what is the best (i.e., most populated) servers in EU, US and Oceanic timezones?
I'm afraid I cannot speak to this, although as I understand it, there is an unofficial ZAM forum you could join to be better connected to the community here.

Amryxx wrote:
e. one advice people gave me yesterday is, "don't play Mi'qote if you want to be taken seriously, 75% of characters are catgirls". So how true is this? I do want people to take me seriously (or at least, not treat me like a walking ***-a-pile), but on the other hand.. catgirls!
I personally don't agree with this assessment. I have a friend who played a Mithra in FFXI (although he is an Elezen now) and at worst, you will be given significantly more offers to help than playing another character. Most of us, though, try to treat people equally and do not leap to assumptions about the people playing behind the character - although this can be difficult depending on the personality of the player in question.

Amryxx wrote:
Thanking you guys in advance for any help and/or non-trollish replies. FOR THE HO- urm.. what do we have in place for factions here?
In answer to your question, might I suggest picking a city to pledge your virtual allegience to. On another point, I would also suggest avoiding WoW references here. It can be somewhat of a touchy subject for one reason or another.

Edited, Aug 16th 2011 12:55am by Hulan
#5 Aug 15 2011 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Two more questions, if no one minds:
a. my buddy pass is from the EU version of the CE, so I assume I need the EU client?
b. when they finally decide to re-implement the fees, will it be $1 per market ward, or $1 per market ward per month?
c. are players segregated by region, e.g., US users in one set of servers, EU in another, etc.?
d. when the PS3 version comes out, will they be playing with us PC master racers, or will they have their own set of servers?

Oh wait, that's four questions. Me no know maths.
#6 Aug 15 2011 at 11:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Amryxx wrote:
Two more questions, if no one minds:
a. my buddy pass is from the EU version of the CE, so I assume I need the EU client?
b. when they finally decide to re-implement the fees, will it be $1 per market ward, or $1 per market ward per month?
c. are players segregated by region, e.g., US users in one set of servers, EU in another, etc.?
d. when the PS3 version comes out, will they be playing with us PC master racers, or will they have their own set of servers?

Oh wait, that's four questions. Me no know maths.

In response, in no particular order: You may want to get your hands on the EU version just to be safe, although I am unsure if you absolutely need it. The monthly fees are still somewhat up in the air; the original fees were $1 for each retainer above your first each month. Since then, we have been given an extra for free as well as more that we may or may not be charged for having. Ultimately, any comment on monthly fees at this point would be at best conjecture. Servers are completely heterogeneous. US players play with JP players play with EU players play with PC players will play with PS3 players. There is an auto-translate function that can be used to translate words and phrases into all languages (based on the receiving computer's language).
#7 Aug 16 2011 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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you might get ffed over by using the EU version... might not.

If you want to be a carpenter/lancer/archer you might want to start in Gridania since all those guilds are there.

And the shrooms you can destroy just outside of town drop willow logs, which you can use for your first carpentry synths, though a few guildleves would get you some levels too.

Though gridania is pretty abandoned in terms of players hanging out and selling stuff, on my server anyway.
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#8 Aug 16 2011 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Everyone's pretty much answered everything already. But to reiterate, the game is region free, but I have no idea what happens if you try to register an EU buddy pass on an NA account. Just make an NA Square-Enix Account, then try to register that code. I assume it will work just fine.

If you make a EU account, and are an NA player, you may end up regretting it and having to jump through hoops later on down the line.

My girlfriend plays a cat girl, and is not really treated any differently than anyone else as far as I've seen...

If people think you are a female player (not character) you are liable to be treated differently than a male player, (by other male players) in some cases, but that's the reality of online gaming. I'd say if anything, it's better in FF than in most games, for a variety of reasons that don't bear going into.

If you are still looking for a server, Lindblum has been good from my experience so far, I don't think any one server is really better than any other. But if you do end up on Lindblum feel free to look me up (Ramsey Enten) I'm always willing to answer literally endless amounts of questions from new players. (And provided you're not a total **** - help you with things, such as making you gears~)
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