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#1 Sep 06 2011 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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This thread is simply for giggles, though it is somewhat FFXIV related. Just more on the social aspect.

Being a former English teacher, I keep my /shout's filtered lest I have a seizure due to the insanely bad spelling of kids trying to get their points across, though now I seem to have a pretty mighty list and thought I would share some of it with the intelligent crowd so they could get a chuckle as well. If you have any good ones Id love to hear them too.

Lets start with some of the commons from texting that spills over into gaming:

"2" does not equal "to" or "too". It does equal "two" though.
"u" ...we know this one.
"r" ...we know this one as well.
"no" used as "know", as in "i no u r 2! lol!" <-- actually seen this used. Looks like a license plate.
"wat" - seriously? You can't spell "what"? also occasionally seen as "wut"
"wud" - in reference to "would" or at times "wood" (carpenters in the game after all).
"rly" - this one makes me think of owls, no idea why.

Game specific:
-Using "GLD" in place of "Gladiator". For clarification: GLA is the abbreviated form of Gladiator. GLD is for Goldsmithing. This happens constantly.

Some randoms that somehow got understood:

player>> gz
Buddy >> "gz"? Please explain.
player>> <<Congratulations!>>
Buddy >> oh my.

Here's the explanation my buddy gave me - "gz" is apparently the abbreviated form of "gratz"...which is already the abbreviated form of Congratulations. No child left behind!

Using the translation menu due to laziness has generated some good ones:

Buddy>> Sir, are you in need of assistance? Would you like a <<Raise>>?
player>> <<I'm Sorry!>> <<Leathercraft>>
Buddy >> Alright then. Carry on.

We never did get an explanation on that one.

That's all I got for now. Just thought I'd share. Anyone else have any good ones?

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IbukiDomino wrote:
Being a former English teacher, I keep my /shout's filtered lest I have a seizure due to the insanely bad spelling of kids trying to get their points across, though now I seem to have a pretty mighty list and thought I would share some of it with the intelligent crowd so they could get a chuckle as well.
An English teacher writing in run on sentences and making apostrophe mistakes?

Hard to take "No Child Left Behind" serious when the teachers are making such basic mistakes.
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#3 Sep 06 2011 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Valid point. Apologies for the run on sentence.

As for "no child left behind" I taught 1-9th grade in japan and therefore take no credit in ruining America's spelling ;)


Edited, Sep 6th 2011 5:58pm by IbukiDomino
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In their defense, it is an online game with communicaton and controls bound to the same input device. Worse, the game has layers of menus and interfaces that often conflict with each other. Sometimes efficiency is more important than propriety.

How fortunate we are that English accommodates abbreviation, phonetic similarity and other kinds of shorthand to construct a meaningful (if not articulate) expression. Internet and MMO culture is old enough now for these modes of shorthand to be coherent to most people; they are at least intuitive enough--the ones you listed, anyway--for new people to figure them out.

None of that **** makes sense on a forum, though.

Really, internet. Any situation where you have the luxury of proofreading a comment, mail, essay or post is where you put your elementary school learning to use. Unless you are, of course, too cool for school.

OP needs to direct his energy towards preventing more linguistically destructive practices like "epic," "awesome," "fail" and the like.

I would also like to point out that you don't need any English or language-related credentials to teach English in a faraway land. They'll take anybody. I mean, they allegedly took OP.
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#6 Sep 06 2011 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't get it, how are fad words like epic, awesome (really? Really?) and fail more damaging to our language than AoL-kiddy speak?

Bro says "Eppppic" I shrug...?
Bro texts me "I kno, I b ther 2 k?" gets punched in the face.

The thread is just for fun, seriously.

I unfortunately do not have any good recent examples for FFXIV that come off the top of my head. Miss tells provide me for hours of more entertainment than people failing at English. It's always fun to see something like "*She begins to **** his **** ****ly." pop up in say or LS chat. Oh cyber-RP, how many laughs will I get from you.

#7 Sep 06 2011 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
ttmmlmfaosh*tiwgtpmp

If you can understand that. You, sir, are indeed a god.

EDIT: The * in the acronym is the letter 'i'.

Edited, Sep 6th 2011 8:11pm by StateAlchemist

Edited, Sep 6th 2011 8:12pm by StateAlchemist
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#8 Sep 06 2011 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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Fhtagn!?
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#9 Sep 06 2011 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
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Fhtagn!?

Cthulhu?
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#10 Sep 06 2011 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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StateAlchemist the Eccentric wrote:
Khornette wrote:
Fhtagn!?

Cthulhu?


Fhtagn!!

It's a joke, it's an expression Cthuloo often uses.
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StateAlchemist the Eccentric wrote:
ttmmlmfaosh*tiwgtpmp

If you can understand that. You, sir, are indeed a god.



t alk
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'dawww so romantic
#12 Sep 06 2011 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
Khornette wrote:
StateAlchemist the Eccentric wrote:
Khornette wrote:
Fhtagn!?

Cthulhu?


Fhtagn!!

It's a joke, it's an expression Cthuloo often uses.

I was right!? Nice.
Magnesium02 wrote:
StateAlchemist the Eccentric wrote:
ttmmlmfaosh*tiwgtpmp

If you can understand that. You, sir, are indeed a god.



t alk
t o
m e
m y
l ove
m y
f air
a nd
o nly
s weetheart
h ow
I
t remble
i nside
w aiting
g allantly
t o
p roclaim
m y
p assion

'dawww so romantic

Close. This Thread Made Me Laugh My A** Off So Hard I Thought I Was Going To P*ss My Pants.

Although I think your interpretation is better. hehe

(Went ahead and censored the sentence myself since the bolding bypassed the filter. I think you can interpret it correctly though.)
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#13 Sep 06 2011 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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Well this thread certainly didn't go as expected.

What I was targeting was simply things you found funny in the social aspects of gaming, and in this case FFXIV. Personally, I find it funny when things are intentionally spelled incorrectly. That was the entire purpose of this post. I appreciate those that had fun with it and got a chuckle out of those willing to enjoy it.

Thanks.
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The thread is just for fun, seriously.

I am seriously having fun.




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StateAlchemist the Eccentric wrote:
ttmmlmfaosh*tiwgtpmp

If you can understand that. You, sir, are indeed a god.

EDIT: The * in the acronym is the letter 'i'.

Edited, Sep 6th 2011 8:11pm by StateAlchemist

Edited, Sep 6th 2011 8:12pm by StateAlchemist



"Thm's flashfreeze is gimp"?
#16 Sep 07 2011 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Eye h8 dis /thread it iz st00p1d, afronet slang es afronet slang.. grammar polyce on pa`troll
#17 Sep 08 2011 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the only one that bothers me is 'yt' aka 'yet'...seriously that 'e' is not going to kill you lol.
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i jus luv wen sum1 laf iz funnier thn the joke!! Tehehe



I copied this from a friend's facebook page.....I gave her **** for it at work today :) She's Amish and has an 8th grade education so what do ya' do? lol
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lolgaxe wrote:
IbukiDomino wrote:
Being a former English teacher, I keep my /shout's filtered lest I have a seizure due to the insanely bad spelling of kids trying to get their points across, though now I seem to have a pretty mighty list and thought I would share some of it with the intelligent crowd so they could get a chuckle as well.
An English teacher writing in run on sentences and making apostrophe mistakes?

Hard to take "No Child Left Behind" serious when the teachers are making such basic mistakes.

I didn't see a run-on sentence; I saw a long sentence, but to be a run-on requires an ungrammatical element, which was not present. As long as you use grammatically correct joiners, a sentence can go on indefinitely without being 'run on.'

Also, AFAIK the jury is out on when to use apostrophes to pluralize things that aren't straightforward words (such as "CD's", "2000's", and, I guess, even "/shout's", since the forward slash turns it from a conventional word into a technical command). I don't use them, but others do, and that's okay.
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lolgaxe wrote:
IbukiDomino wrote:
Being a former English teacher, I keep my /shout's filtered lest I have a seizure due to the insanely bad spelling of kids trying to get their points across, though now I seem to have a pretty mighty list and thought I would share some of it with the intelligent crowd so they could get a chuckle as well.
An English teacher writing in run on sentences and making apostrophe mistakes?

Hard to take "No Child Left Behind" serious when the teachers are making such basic mistakes.

I didn't see a run-on sentence; I saw a long sentence, but to be a run-on requires an ungrammatical element, which was not present. As long as you use grammatically correct joiners, a sentence can go on indefinitely without being 'run on.'

Also, AFAIK the jury is out on when to use apostrophes to pluralize things that aren't straightforward words (such as "CD's", "2000's", and, I guess, even "/shout's", since the forward slash turns it from a conventional word into a technical command). I don't use them, but others do, and that's okay.


You nailed that perfectly. The sentence, while it might be somewhat long, is not 'run-on'. I would have worded it a bit differently, perhaps, by breaking apart "... across, though ..." into "... across. However, ..." or something to that effect. As far as using /shout's... /shout is a command in FFXIV and by following the normal pluralization of just the word 'shout' may confuse someone as to the implementation of the command in game. Since /shouts is an invalid command, pluralizing it by adding an apostrophe is not a grammatical infraction in my eyes.

+1 to you yfaithfully for an excellent response.
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#21 Sep 08 2011 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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back in high school i distincly remeber my 9th grade english teacher tell us a story about how a student wrote an essay as if they were talking on MSN.

the class got a good laugh but the teacher proclaimed it was the internets fault and we should stop using it lol.
#22 Sep 09 2011 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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As someone who studied linguistics and anthropology I have to point out that abbreviating things is actually considered to be an advanced form of language.

The reasons are such:
The point of a language is to communicate.
Faster communication is more efficient (which is why it is used)
Abbreviations, online and in real life, result in higher efficiency
Higher efficiency increases the economic and cultural output of a culture

This has actually been proven historically. Cultures which created or adopted a more efficient language were able to trade more efficiently and were able to advance their culture more profoundly. For example Latin is a far more efficient language than Egyptian Hieroglyphics. As such countries which employed the latin alphabet were able to exceed in trade (its a lot faster to write 2 small symbols than to write 3 pictures each time someone trades grain). Further we see a lot more culture from ancient Rome since the language was more accessible to the average person.

And if you spoke to a Latin teach 100 years ago they would say English is a dirty language full of abbreviations. Which is true, compared to Latin, English is significantly more efficient and less formal.

Thats not to say that a formal or beautiful language is bad, or that un-shortened words are horrible. Literature can be expressed better when there are a large number of words that can be used. But in everyday life, abbreviating is generally more useful.

Think of the difference between sending the email
"I would like to purchase forty shares in Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. please"
and sending
"I'd like 2 buy 40 shares of 9684:JP plz"

Now you might think "well that's a 20 second difference, big deal"

But if that's done 10 million times in a day (it's done a lot more since almost all businesses and even sciences abbreviate)
you save 3,333,333.33etc minutes a day in efficiency
thats 55,555.55 hours,
or 2314.82 days

Think about that... if those 10 million communications were not abbreviated and each person did not save 20 seconds, you would have lost approximately 6 years of possible work efficiency.

Now the world has 294 billion emails sent per day on average. If you save 20 seconds abbreviating each of those emails.... think of all the efficiency.

Just to give you an idea of the size difference
10 mil = 10,000,000
294bil = 296,000,000,000

or 26900 times as much.
so, 26,900 times 2315 days = 62,273,500
So if every person on the planet saved 20 seconds abbreviating their emails each day, we would save over 62 million days of human output, which is about 170,000 years.

Can you see how efficiency can have a huge collective effect?




Edited, Sep 9th 2011 7:23am by Azurymber
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Yeah, but you have to remember that abbreviating language is only efficient if all parties can actually understand what is being said.

Edited, Sep 9th 2011 5:39am by Kirby
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#25 Sep 09 2011 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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that is true :p which is why more people should be taught internet abbreviations in school ^^
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Azurymber wrote:
"I would like to purchase forty shares in Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. please"
and sending
"I'd like 2 buy 40 shares of 9684:JP plz"

Is there no point where it becomes too convoluted to be considered more efficient? There has to be. People don't buy stock via emails like your example.. But even if they did, unless writing "2" for "to" became the norm, you're going to lose time making people consider and know what it means. Even if it's a fraction of a second recognizing the anomaly, that's lost time.

You don't have to go from very formal to internet speak. I think "I'd like to buy 40 shares of 9684:JP" would be more efficient.

I think a better example for your point would be, say.. "Can I have the statistics on that?" vs. "Can I have the stats on that?".. Or even less formal.. "Stats on that..?"

Edited, Sep 9th 2011 8:53am by Coyohma
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Coyohma wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
"I would like to purchase forty shares in Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. please"
and sending
"I'd like 2 buy 40 shares of 9684:JP plz"

Is there no point where it becomes too convoluted to be considered more efficient? There has to be. People don't buy stock via emails like your example.. But even if they did, unless writing "2" for "to" became the norm, you're going to lose time making people consider and know what it means. Even if it's a fraction of a second recognizing the anomaly, that's lost time.

You don't have to go from very formal to internet speak. I think "I'd like to buy 40 shares of 9684:JP" would be more efficient.

I think a better example for your point would be, say.. "Can I have the statistics on that?" vs. "Can I have the stats on that?".. Or even less formal.. "Stats on that..?"

Edited, Sep 9th 2011 8:53am by Coyohma


You're correct. You can't just start using things that no one understands. Basically a "standard" develops over time. So while right now if you were purchasing shares someone might not understand 2 = to, overtime they might, and "want to buy" might get shortened to w2b. That's already happened in many MMOs.

and people with private brokers do request purchases and sales via email and text messages now, especially in developing economies where phone service may be unreliable. So you're right people don't buy stocks directly that way, but they do communicate to a broker who buys stocks for them that way. :p
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Azurymber wrote:
and people with private brokers do request purchases and sales via email and text messages now, especially in developing economies where phone service may be unreliable. So you're right people don't buy stocks directly that way, but they do communicate to a broker who buys stocks for them that way. :p

It just tickles me to think of someone writing.. "Plz b4 the weeknd, buy those 200 shares 4 me.. k thx." If you already have a relationship with a broker (or whomever), sure, that can change the rules if you can assume they will understand.

Personally I largely stay away from this stuff - I think the worst I've ever done in XIV was in a marathon raptor party.. I was half asleep, and some were saying "cg" for congrats, so I just went with that. I'm probably in the minority at this point, but for instance if I'm talking with a girl I care about, I'll even spell out "talk to you later" instead of leaving it as "ttyl."
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