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#1 Sep 12 2011 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
I came across this thread on the Official Forums and didn't recall any mention of this particular topic being discussed here, so I figured I would bring it up to get a feel for peoples opinions.

Here is a link to the thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/22598-The-Future-Of-Elemental-Stats

The original announcement of Point Allotment begin removed (temporarily) once Patch 1.19 is implemented can be found here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/11070?p=141396#post141396

Notice that it makes no mention of Element Point Allotment returning, only Attribute Point Allotment.

A Community Rep replied shortly concerning how shards and crystals being influenced by affinity will be affected post 1.19 here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/22598-The-Future-Of-Elemental-Stats?p=321251&viewfull=1#post321251

The Community Rep responded again later confirming that Element Point Allotment will not be returning here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/22598-The-Future-Of-Elemental-Stats?p=328911&viewfull=1#post328911

A couple of interesting questions this brings to mind are:

Will items giving large boosts to Elemental Affinity increase in value drastically?
Will Disciples of Magic require multiple sets of gear to be at "peak efficiency" when casting an elementally aligned spell?

Any thoughts?

Edited, Sep 13th 2011 2:13am by StateAlchemist
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#2 Sep 13 2011 at 12:44 AM Rating: Good
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Interesting. I didn't particularly make use of the elemental point allotment, other than keeping it balanced.
I kinda hope that gear swapping won't become a major part of FFXIV like it was in FFXI.

Also, grats on Admin, StateAlchemist Smiley: thumbsup
I see nothing but helpful and informative posts from you, so I look forward to more.

Edited, Sep 13th 2011 12:44am by Kirby
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#3 Sep 13 2011 at 12:47 AM Rating: Good
Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
Interesting. I didn't particularly make use of the elemental point allotment, other than keeping it balanced.
I kinda hope that gear swapping won't become a major part of FFXIV like it was in FFXI.

Also, grats on Admin, StateAlchemist Smiley: thumbsup
I see nothing but helpful and informative posts from you, so I look forward to more.

Edited, Sep 13th 2011 12:44am by Kirby

I mainly used Element Point Allotment to affect my drops. knowing I need thousands of shards for a long stint of crafting one recipe it is nice knowing that I will get more of that kind of drop while I am farming. Not looking forward to having to pick between stats like Output, Perception, or whatever, in favor of getting the type of shard I want...

(...and thanks^^)

Edited, Sep 13th 2011 2:47am by StateAlchemist
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#4 Sep 13 2011 at 12:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't rate you up anymore though Smiley: frown

You should at least have auto-Excellent like other Admins.
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#5 Sep 13 2011 at 12:50 AM Rating: Good
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The real question, that I've been asking since they first announced this, is what is going to happen to food. And in the interim, we are probably ****** as far as food goes. Poor culinarians.
#6 Sep 13 2011 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
I can't rate you up anymore though Smiley: frown

You should at least have auto-Excellent like other Admins.


I actually have the option to rate myself up but it doesn't really matter all that much to me. lol
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#7 Sep 13 2011 at 1:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally i've never seen that much difference in allotting certain elemental attributes stronger than others, with the exception of gathering from nodes significantly below optimal level...i.e. mining grade 2 as MIN35+.

I also never noticed a huge difference on nuking either, which eventually led me to just balance everything out to 84 across the board. Perhaps others have lengthy testing to prove otherwise, but it wasn't ever something that seemed to impact gameplay in a worthy way.
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#8 Sep 13 2011 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
I can't rate you up anymore though Smiley: frown

You should at least have auto-Excellent like other Admins.


I actually have the option to rate myself up but it doesn't really matter all that much to me. lol


Can you... can you rate yourself down, too? o_O
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#9 Sep 13 2011 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
I can't rate you up anymore though Smiley: frown

You should at least have auto-Excellent like other Admins.


Maybe I stand alone with this opinion. But i strongly believe the rating should be done away with. Just that it seems unreasonable that when people make a solid statement that does not go with the main stream they get penalized. To bump down a troll or a person with 0 commonsense fine, but not for a difference of opinion.
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#10 Sep 13 2011 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
KaneKitty wrote:
StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
I can't rate you up anymore though Smiley: frown

You should at least have auto-Excellent like other Admins.


I actually have the option to rate myself up but it doesn't really matter all that much to me. lol


Can you... can you rate yourself down, too? o_O


Actually, yes, I can. But lets try to get back on topic please.
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#11 Sep 13 2011 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
I mainly used Element Point Allotment to affect my drops. knowing I need thousands of shards for a long stint of crafting one recipe it is nice knowing that I will get more of that kind of drop while I am farming. Not looking forward to having to pick between stats like Output, Perception, or whatever, in favor of getting the type of shard I want...

Pretty sure they're going to make it so specific gear (like earrings) will grant you elemental bonuses, thus favouring shards of that type, since you can't assign those points anymore.

I don't think that they'll do something like jerkin = earth shards, coatee = ice shards.
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#12 Sep 14 2011 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
Since you are asking, I'll make my opinion plain.

If gear swapping in FFXIV becomes possible/required, that will be the last day of FFXIV for me.

I am absolutely not going to gather a belt for this spell and a hat for that spell and 8 different staffs and STR gear for WS and ACC gear for TP gain and blah blah blah. Not going to happen.
#13 Sep 14 2011 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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Since you are asking, I'll make my opinion plain.

If gear swapping in FFXIV becomes possible/required, that will be the last day of FFXIV for me.

I am absolutely not going to gather a belt for this spell and a hat for that spell and 8 different staffs and STR gear for WS and ACC gear for TP gain and blah blah blah. Not going to happen.


Yeah, I don't mind having a couple sets of gear for one class if it is a fundamental change in my role in the party, like for example...from DOT/Enfeeble to Nuker or something liek that...but the macroing for every action was kinda ridiculous lol
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#14 Sep 14 2011 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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SmashingtonWho wrote:
Since you are asking, I'll make my opinion plain.

If gear swapping in FFXIV becomes possible/required, that will be the last day of FFXIV for me.

I am absolutely not going to gather a belt for this spell and a hat for that spell and 8 different staffs and STR gear for WS and ACC gear for TP gain and blah blah blah. Not going to happen.


Agreed. I will only swap out gear for specific different situations, ahead of time. Swapping frequently, or in combat is an absolute no-no, unless they buffed the crap out of my inventory system, got rid of blinking when I changed equipment, and allowed me to literally drag and drop a piece of gear onto a spell to have it auto-equip, but this is a Square-Enix MMO, that would never happen.

And honestly, even if that were the case I'd prefer not to swap anyways.
#15 Sep 14 2011 at 7:28 PM Rating: Good
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Agreed, if it comes to the gear-swapping mid-combat again, i'm out. I like XIV, but I don't love it. I tolerated that in XI because I loved the game, and it didn't impact you from moving or functioning, as well as being almost instantaneous. In XIV, no way that would happen with the current state of the UI unless they pull a magic overhaul outta their collective butts overnight.
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#16 Sep 14 2011 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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i don't really mind not getting to put points into elemental stats, i hardly saw a difference no matter how many points i put into anything, so i just balanced them all. i also wouldn't mind not putting points into stats, simply because i always feel like i didn't do it right and keep changing it.

on a side question, isn't admin status supposed to give you instant excellent posts? state alchemist's posts are only good.
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