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#1 Sep 21 2011 at 8:51 AM Rating: Default
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Fine, I didn't do my research. Never mind.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2011 6:45pm by CharwindHawke
#2 Sep 21 2011 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did


Uematsu did the entire XIV soundtrack.

A lot of the music is great, I'm partial to Aetherial Slumber.
#3 Sep 21 2011 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
The game was horrible to begin with. They gave Tanaka the shaft to save face, and since then Yoshi-P's interaction with the player-base and follow through with the regular patches have in spite of what some people say, made this game more then playable. If a review gave this game a 4 or 5 out of 10 before, it should at least get a 5 or 6 now, if not a 7. Now while that seems underwhelming, the biggest changes are yet to come (Patches 1.19-1.21) and I can say with confidence that FFXIV should be sitting at a 8 or 9 out of 10 after patch 1.21.

I still have my complaints about the game, just like everyone else, but all my complaints have already been addressed by Yoshi-P and they are already working on it. Frivolous little complaints about this and that I overlook as normal stuff that every game gets from people. I am very excited about patch 1.19 and can't wait for the 30th to roll around.
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#4 Sep 21 2011 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I applaud your optimism, but I'm not going to insist my friends play it until it's ready to play. Suggesting someone start now is almost guaranteeing that they won't like it and may not return.
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#5 Sep 21 2011 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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I applaud your optimism, but I'm not going to insist my friends play it until it's ready to play. Suggesting someone start now is almost guaranteeing that they won't like it and may not return.

I agree. I have been telling everyone to wait at least until after 1.19 patch. While someone like me can look past a lot of the stuff and still fing the game quite enjoyable and engaging, I know a lot of people would not.
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#6 Sep 21 2011 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Sephrick wrote:
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Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did


Uematsu did the entire XIV soundtrack.

A lot of the music is great, I'm partial to Aetherial Slumber.


I thought he only did the majority of it and that some was split between other SE composers? Or was that XI. I get confused sometimes.
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#7 Sep 21 2011 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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Perrin, ****** Superhero wrote:
Sephrick wrote:
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Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did


Uematsu did the entire XIV soundtrack.

A lot of the music is great, I'm partial to Aetherial Slumber.


I thought he only did the majority of it and that some was split between other SE composers? Or was that XI. I get confused sometimes.

That was FFXI, one of FFXIV's big advertisement points back before beta even was that it was 100% Nobuo Uematsu.
#8 Sep 21 2011 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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Once the game has some actual content for those of us who just want to log in, seek for a party and go to camp, then we can start talking about FFXIV heading towards becoming a masterpiece. There are still too many basic features missing.

Edited, Sep 21st 2011 12:21pm by TauuOfSiren
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#9 Sep 21 2011 at 10:22 AM Rating: Default
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Perrin, ****** Superhero wrote:
Sephrick wrote:
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Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did


Uematsu did the entire XIV soundtrack.

A lot of the music is great, I'm partial to Aetherial Slumber.


I thought he only did the majority of it and that some was split between other SE composers? Or was that XI. I get confused sometimes.


That would be XI, and while many of the key songs were composed by Uematsu, most were split by Kumi Tanioka and Naoshi Mizuta.

As for your point, the game is way better than forums would have anyone believe, but there are 2 hurdles the game would have to overcome in order to achieve true long term success:
1. Get the "return every patch" players to stick around...the game needs something deeper than the occasional dungeon to keep the early adopters engaged and excited to play...personally, I'd like a full expansion that takes us to into the Garlean empire itself. Between that and the upcoming patches the game would definetly be worth paying 14.99 a month for.
2. Somehow, some way, get the game re-reviewed to generate new buzz on media sites. Now...the only realistic chance of this happening is a PS3 version review (if it ever truly releases), but could generate enough buzz to get more people to get the PC version as well.

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#10 Sep 21 2011 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Okay, so Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did, it has no captivating music like Ronfaure. So Final Fantasy 14 has it's bugs, armor and equipment degrading is a constant expense and chore and no one likes levelling up their craft jobs. So what if there's more than a little wrong with it, here we have a game where the developers are listening to the gamers and asking 'What now?'

We asked for Garlean invasions and just this week NPCs in every city have been screaming their pixelated little heads off because the Garleans have arrived. If we ask for a chocobo breeding system so we can all have our own customized birds equal in badassery to our characters (like WoW for example except with Chocobos) we'll probably get it, because this game could make SE a fortune if only the abysmal reviews can be grudgingly turned around.

I have actually played this game and personally I prefer it to FFXI (I know, I know, boo, hiss, blasphemer and so on), I prefer it to WoW (again, I know) and personally I don't see much wrong with it anymore and I see plenty right with it. Perhaps the reviewers don't want to go back on their first impressions even though first impressions are often too quick a judgment to be truly fair, perhaps, but let's stop talking about FF14 in terms of where it's been and talk about where it's going. Not 'It's not quite as bad as it used to be...' Let's say, 'It's gonna be great.'

So lets all keep playing, keep insisting our friends join, keep recommending it to people with a sidenote of '***** the reviews.' People joining this game remark on how beautiful it is and how much they just want to explore and isn't that the point of a fantasy game? To give us a break from our woes and troubles and to let us explore a beautiful, believable fantasy world and kill things.. together?

This is Charwind Hawke, signing off.


lol

I stopped reading right there

Edited, Sep 21st 2011 6:26pm by insanekangaroo
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#11 Sep 21 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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You won't have those friends for very long...
#12 Sep 21 2011 at 11:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Despite the OP's Uematsu gaffe, the fact remains that he was probably stretched a bit thin, though still, the music turned out alright. I'd suspect that if the game was better that it might have influenced what we thought of the music.

Overall the game has gotten better, but it's still bad. The main points (to me) still won't be addressed for a while. Like better class distinction/overhaul, stat changes and a map overhaul. Those things will dramatically change the game, and I don't want to invest time in this game, if and when those changes occur.

I think now that SE should have taken the game offline for repair. There's something in that mystery of development that is gone when you're dragged down by patch after patch; showing a modicum of improvement only to be let down in a week.
#13 Sep 21 2011 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
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CharwindHawke wrote:
Okay, so Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did, it has no captivating music like Ronfaure. So Final Fantasy 14 has it's bugs, armor and equipment degrading is a constant expense and chore and no one likes levelling up their craft jobs. So what if there's more than a little wrong with it, here we have a game where the developers are listening to the gamers and asking 'What now?'

We asked for Garlean invasions and just this week NPCs in every city have been screaming their pixelated little heads off because the Garleans have arrived. If we ask for a chocobo breeding system so we can all have our own customized birds equal in badassery to our characters (like WoW for example except with Chocobos) we'll probably get it, because this game could make SE a fortune if only the abysmal reviews can be grudgingly turned around.

I have actually played this game and personally I prefer it to FFXI (I know, I know, boo, hiss, blasphemer and so on), I prefer it to WoW (again, I know) and personally I don't see much wrong with it anymore and I see plenty right with it. Perhaps the reviewers don't want to go back on their first impressions even though first impressions are often too quick a judgment to be truly fair, perhaps, but let's stop talking about FF14 in terms of where it's been and talk about where it's going. Not 'It's not quite as bad as it used to be...' Let's say, 'It's gonna be great.'

So lets all keep playing, keep insisting our friends join, keep recommending it to people with a sidenote of '***** the reviews.' People joining this game remark on how beautiful it is and how much they just want to explore and isn't that the point of a fantasy game? To give us a break from our woes and troubles and to let us explore a beautiful, believable fantasy world and kill things.. together?

This is Charwind Hawke, signing off.


I will say this about FFXIV... It has fewer things wrong with it than with that gibberish you just spewed.
#14 Sep 21 2011 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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insanekangaroo wrote:
CharwindHawke wrote:
Okay, so Final Fantasy 14 never had the input of Nobuo Uematsu's masterful composing like FFXI did,


lol

I stopped reading right there



You beat me to it. Uematsu did all of XIV's tunes.
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#15 Sep 21 2011 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
They gave Tanaka the shaft to save face


Well, great, now I have a mental picture of Tanaka's face as he "gets the shaft." (._. )
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#16 Sep 21 2011 at 12:57 PM Rating: Good
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Besides, out of the thousands of people who have already left, I have yet to hear one give their reason for quitting being the soundtrack.
#17 Sep 21 2011 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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CharwindHawke wrote:
So lets all keep playing, keep insisting our friends join, keep recommending it to people with a sidenote of '***** the reviews.' People joining this game remark on how beautiful it is and how much they just want to explore and isn't that the point of a fantasy game? To give us a break from our woes and troubles and to let us explore a beautiful, believable fantasy world and kill things.. together?


I can't fault you for you dedication but I do think that we should still wait a little longer before luring people into playing the game. Perhaps we should spread the good word by qualifying FFXIV's shortcomings in light of its steadily improving quality. Once it's great, then we lure them in. >:D
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#18 Sep 21 2011 at 1:15 PM Rating: Default
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Geez, you know things are bad when even the hipsters who thrive on loving awful things to be "cool" and "unique" won't even play.
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