Objectively a new player wouldn't want to see gear swapping, as with a large population of the current players. Yes its a bad mechanic, I understand your trying to cheaply poke holes in my argument but I really think your being unfair given the evidence he's provided.
Objectively why would you solve the problem of equipment getting outdated by making it so characters are awkwardly switching gear before each action? Its a basic problem that EVERY MMO has, and you really expect FFXIV to cop out and just use FFXI's tactic?
Objectively its a poor solution. You can argue how much you like gear swapping or how much you didn't but they're are easily better solutions and you can't argue with that, and i hope everyone can agree on that premise and encourage SE to devise a better one should they try and head down that path.
I knew I shouldn't have posted to begin with because it was quite obvious already from your first post that you can't separate opinion from an objective argument. Stating an opinion, and making it sounds like fact doesn't evidence make.
That said, I am not going to argue with you about if gearswapping is fun or boring because it is a matter of opinion and I won't be able to convince you just as little as you will be able to convince me.
Now if you want to argue about whether it is a good mechanic or not, I'd say it all depends on what you mean. If you mean that it is a mechanic that draws fewer players than an alternative way of doing it, I would say that based on the discussions on these forums you might be right (Depends on the alternative of course). However if the definition of a "good mechanic" is that it draws a lot of players I'd say most mechanics that isn't exactly what WoW has, is a bad mechanic. I think we all know that isn't true. In the case of FF I would almost go so far as to say that the opposite might be true (In a lot of cases that is what draws those players to FF instead of other games such as WoW).
Now considering SE's earlier statements regarding who they are aiming this game towards it does seem like they want old XI players mixed with a bit broader of an audience. If that is what they are aiming for I do believe using gearswapping (at least in the way XI did) might be a bad idea. The reason for that however is not because I think the mechanic in itself is bad, but because:
1. The people who seem to hate the mechanic also seem to care a lot more about whether it is used or not, compared to those who like it. This thread is a great example of that since we've had several people stating they will quit XIV the day gearswapping is introduced, compared to zero people who has said they will quit unless the mechanic is introduced. That in itself means that if SE's goal is getting a lot of players, having gearswaps might not be the best idea.
2. The iteration of it seen in XI had flaws and a lot of them.
However that doesn't mean the mechanic itself isn't "deep" or that it is bad. Everyone here seem to work under the assumption that if gearswaps is introduced it will be exactly like in XI. This might of course be true, but there are ways to improve the systems around the mechanic, because quite frankly that seems to be what a lot of people here have issues with, the iteration of it in XI, not the mechanic itself (thought I might be wrong of course).
People talk about how they hate "blinking"? Okay, make it possible to "lock in" a certain look that you keep no matter how much gearswapping you do. You don't think making macros is fun? Okay, streamline the process of making gearswap macros so maybe you only need to drag an icon into a box to get a macro (Don't remember if it was Ramsey who suggested somethink like this earlier). I mean, there are a lot of issues with the XI version of gearswapping, but that doesn't mean XIV has to have the same issues (SE devs are crafty, I am sure they can come up with better solutions to make it work).
Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I actually like gearswapping and for a number of different reasons too. This of course does not mean that SE can't come up with anything better, I am sure they can and if they really set their mind to it I am sure they will. I guess the problem is that if they keep the mechanic of gearswapping, they might actually not feel there is a need for anything else and I think that would be unfortunate, so in that sense I do hope they don't allow for gearswapping in XIV.
However, if they are not planning an entirely new system, I do want gearswaps for the simple reason that I think gearswaps is the best mechanic (pertaining to the things that it deals with) to date in any game I've played. You talk about me expecting XIV to "cop out and use the same tactics as XI", well as long as they don't cop out to using any mechanic existing in any other current game, I agree with you they shouldn't cop out at all. Bring out the hammers and nails and get working on something new and exciting and I can assure you I will be first in line to say "hurrah".
I was not trying to "poke holes" in your argument, I really just felt I had to say something when you act as if your way of thinking is the ONLY right way (which you show again in the quoted text by saying "but they're are easily better solutions and you can't argue with that") and even go so far as to claim that this is objectively true.
Also, I just want to say that I have a tendency to sound ruder than I intent (not that I intend to be rude at all) sometimes, I even hear it from friends irl and if I did it wasn't my intention. The fact that english isn't my mothertongue tends to make it worse too, so anyway I apologize if that was/is the case.