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#1 Oct 09 2011 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Today I did my first soloing since the release of the new patch. There's been a ton of complaining about battle and how xp has been greatly nerfed. I don't know what you all are accustomed to, however today on my soloing campaign I was doing about 16k xp per hour. I'm not saying this is amazing, but I wouldn't say I was doing WAYYY better prior to the patch.

I am rank 20, and I was fighting enemies that were rank 17-20.
#2 Oct 10 2011 at 1:37 AM Rating: Good
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I still have to find the right mob for my Conj to break 200xp at rank 28 but what I saw in Treespeak today is the future of this game.The wild hogs and beast tribes is perfect for the one PL to pull and kill while the whole rest of the party is afk and rakes in XP.Duo parties can do it too.
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#3 Oct 10 2011 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Warmech wrote:
I still have to find the right mob for my Conj to break 200xp at rank 28 but what I saw in Treespeak today is the future of this game.The wild hogs and beast tribes is perfect for the one PL to pull and kill while the whole rest of the party is afk and rakes in XP.Duo parties can do it too.



Ahhhhh don't worry about PLers too much. What can you really do about it? The bottom line is.... other people "cheating" shouldn't detract from your experience in the game.

I don't know if 16k / hour is good for most people or not? I literally have never really had a conversation with 1 person in the game.... the community as far as my experience has gone blows. But I was just fighting mobs that were dropping 150xp, and I was killing them in about 35 seconds or so. Overall, I was happy.

By the way, if anyone on Fabul needs someone to join their LS let me know!
#4 Oct 10 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
I think after you join a PL party for yourself you will agree that the game is not currently properly balanced.
#5JarL05, Posted: Oct 10 2011 at 9:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I love how self-righteous some people are. Get over the fact that power leveling is possible. Some will use and some will not. At the end of the day this game is meant to be enjoyed and however the INDIVIDUAL chooses to find enjoyment from an otherwise unenjoyable game is their prerogative. You call it cheating? Well I was cheated out of $80.00 when I purchased the game, if getting power leveled through a few aggravating level ranges is the worst of my sins, I think I'll take my chances.
#6 Oct 10 2011 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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JarL05 wrote:
I love how self-righteous some people are. Get over the fact that power leveling is possible. Some will use and some will not. At the end of the day this game is meant to be enjoyed and however the INDIVIDUAL chooses to find enjoyment from an otherwise unenjoyable game is their prerogative. You call it cheating? Well I was cheated out of $80.00 when I purchased the game, if getting power leveled through a few aggravating level ranges is the worst of my sins, I think I'll take my chances.

To the OP, good post.

Edited, Oct 10th 2011 11:46am by JarL05



LOL I love this post! Anyway, so many people are PL'ing and Yoshi has deemed it ok... so there is no chance to take! Just do whatever you like... personally I gained quite a few ranks this weekend in a PL party with some friends. We would just rotate back and forth and it was actually pretty fun. We chatted the whole time and got some materia, so it wasn't boring for me.

The whole thing about PL is that, my main class is Gladiator and to "be good" I need skills across basically every class in the range of 30 - 50. The faster I can get them and be a better tank so my LS can progress in end-game content the better, and if I kill my experience in game a little bit by getting to those levels faster I'm willing to make that sacrifice. And let's be honest... not everyone wants to level up every class, I certainly have no ambition to be a mage in this game (because I have been in all other games primarily) so getting CNJ/THM Pl'd to get the healing spells and buffs I need is fine with me.

On the same note, there are classes that I really want to level Archer specifically, because I find the class very appealing. So I will be leveling that with no PL and trying to have fun with it. I leveled my Gladiator to max during 1.18 as well as most classes to 20~. Maybe the whole PL mindset will change once jobs are released, or maybe SE will fix it.

I just hate this stupid debate...

Edited, Oct 10th 2011 12:17pm by RemVye
#7 Oct 10 2011 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
I'm with you Rem. I also have a GLA main so getting Warmonger and Accomplice and working towards Cure III are all much easier with PL.

Too bad the dabate takes such extreme sides. Just a little moderation will make this system just fine. I hate to say, "Too much exp!" But I would be ok with a lower cap on EXP when you have a member over 15+ levels in your party.

Would prefer if regular partying with people your level was where you get the big bonuses, and PL is an option that takes about the same amount of time, or a little more, if you have friends available to trade PL time with.

That said, PL'ing was pretty fun, as fun as sitting around can be. Finally had time to chat with LS during party, and we saw a huge server wide population increase. Camps full of parties everywhere! And LS members at all time high attendence. In that respect, you can't knock it.

Balanced to be even (or so) with partying, I would find the system to be just fine.
#8 Oct 10 2011 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Did 28-34 as a conjurer in about 8 hours I think.

Had been power leveled for 2 hours 34-37.

37-39 was about 40-60k an hour with 2people on doblyns.
#9 Oct 10 2011 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think game approved PL is bad it's just with so many people standing around doing nothing I had a FF11 flashback of fishers shoulder to shoulder on cliffs totally silent.Besides seeing massive 8 train of mobs being cut down is nice to see a few times and the whole mob pack pop back in in 30 seconds.This game is time = sp/xp till more main story is added.
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#10 Oct 10 2011 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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SmashingtonWho wrote:
I think after you join a PL party for yourself you will agree that the game is not currently properly balanced.


Why would I join a PL party? The fun of the game is going through it the right way. At least for myself. Everyone has their own opinions on the matter obviously.

I agree with most of what was posted above. The fun of the game is whatever YOU decide is fun. For me, grinding the hard way all the way up is what I enjoy. Although, if someone else wants to PL his way up... who am I, you, or anyone else to say that "that's not fun." It's all an individual choice.

With that said... I bet it's removed some time in the future (in it's current state anyway.)

Edited, Oct 10th 2011 4:25pm by je355804
#11 Oct 10 2011 at 4:32 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, why would you join a PL party if you don't like it? A proper party of similar level also yield as much XP while being more entertaining you know? I had a blast going suicide at Kobold Outpost (not the Mine) and got full camp LINK of like 15 Kobolds running after my light party, whooping our sorry butts. Was fun. A proper party can also yields 40k-60k XP easily, while a proper Beastman Stronghold yield 100k+ XP easily.
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#12 Oct 10 2011 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
Better to post lengthly opinions about a system you haven't seen for yourself?
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SmashingtonWho wrote:
Better to post lengthly opinions about a system you haven't seen for yourself?


I've been in both PL party and normal Party, they are roughly the same speed once you get to certain level (around 30s). Once you are 40s, you don't really get "PL" anymore, it's Beastman Stronghold that give 100k+ Xp/hr (1.5k Xp an Amal'jaa Ortiary Kill lulz). Even normal grind at Raptor give 60k+ Xp/hr easily, and the highest lvl among us were 2 lvls below the Raptor.
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#14 Oct 10 2011 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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je355804 wrote:
Why would I join a PL party? The fun of the game is going through it the right way. At least for myself. Everyone has their own opinions on the matter obviously.

I agree with most of what was posted above. The fun of the game is whatever YOU decide is fun.


The devs agree with your second point, but your first statement contradicts. 'The right way' is the way people enjoy it most. I think in this case it's more a matter of what people dislike least. Sitting in a group chatting with LS mates or struggling to maintain decent exp in a normal group. Personally, my feeling on the matter would probably change from day to day. Some days I want to grind, some days I don't.
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