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#1 Oct 10 2011 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.nerd-age.com/final-fantasy-xiv-year-later/

In case it has not been posted.
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#2 Oct 10 2011 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
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With the coming changes they said they are changing all the job names to classical Final Fantasy names, like fighter, black mage, white mage etc. This game has nowhere to go but up. I hope it gets to where it needs to be. This game should have been amazing, but at launch it was a dud. If you are looking to get into FInal Fantasy XIV wait until after October 4, 2011, when patch 1.9 comes out.


Guess I'm kinda out of the loop been when did they mention this?
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#3 Oct 10 2011 at 3:41 AM Rating: Good
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They aren't changing them, they're going to be advanced jobs. It's coming in a future patch. (1.21)
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#4 Oct 10 2011 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unfortunately Final Fantasy XIV fell far short of where everyone hoped it would be. Part of the problem was the reused scenery. It was reused up to 14 times in a given zone and while understandable, it’s rather lazy. The other biggest issues were the combat system which was terrible, and the way questing worked which was just down right bad.
Those are 3 of them...

That was a pretty short review. He really glazed over the game. It reads like he wrote the review based on patch notes rather than playing. "Spells were added like [this] and [that]", "instances were added named [one] and [another]", "Auto-attack is in the game now", and so on. This would've been a perfect time to detail his own experiences with these new or improved features and how well they're implemented, but instead he just states that they exist and that developers are working on more. That's really not a review at all. That's just condensing patch notes into a news article.

For as much as you guys (rightly) criticized the MMORPG.com review, I have to ask: what makes this decent in comparison? ****, the only gameplay video is 8 minutes explaining character creation, and that hasn't changed since release AFAIK.

Or is it just because reviews that agree with your opinions are well made and those that disagree with your opinions are poorly written?






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#5 Oct 10 2011 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I used the word decent to describe his opinion of the game. He offers a more optimistic view on the games direction, instead of writing it off altogether as many others have. I still think the game is terrible but I thought some of the things said in the article may lift the spirits of those who still hold out hope.
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#6 Oct 10 2011 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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So the thread basically is: I think the game sucks but here's someone who thinks it doesn't.

I don't understand?
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#7 Oct 10 2011 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, that is it exactly. Except I didn't express my opinion until being questioned as to why I posted the review in the first place. I don't understand why everyone is scratching their heads over this. "Look here is a positive review in the media of FFXIV guys". Just trying to give a little contrast with all the negative reviews.
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#8 Oct 10 2011 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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With the coming changes they said they are changing all the job names to classical Final Fantasy names, like fighter,


lol. But... they're not adding in fighter; so, good job on the research, article.
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#9 Oct 10 2011 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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This isn't even a review though. This is just glossed over optimism with a FFXIV graphic attached.
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#10 Oct 10 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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While he doesn't try to turn people away from the game, he didn't do much in the way of research to put together an actual review either.

Positive- It is nice that he told people to wait till it is more ready.

Negitive- A little time actualy playing the game and and doing some fact checking were clearly skipped in favor of spewing out something to fill some space.
#11 Oct 10 2011 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Crappy games don't deserve stellar journalism. We've been over this before.

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But... they're not adding in fighter; so, good job on the research, article.


He didn't say fighter was being added. He said that they were adjusting names to match older FF titles "like fighter, ect...". Fighter is indeed a job/class from the FF series. Maybe you misunderstood this?

The only jobs he mentioned specifically by name were Arcanist and Musketeer, and even then he said those names weren't firm.
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#12 Oct 11 2011 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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Crappy games don't deserve stellar journalism. We've been over this before.

KaneKitty wrote:
But... they're not adding in fighter; so, good job on the research, article.


He didn't say fighter was being added. He said that they were adjusting names to match older FF titles "like fighter, ect...". Fighter is indeed a job/class from the FF series. Maybe you misunderstood this?

The only jobs he mentioned specifically by name were Arcanist and Musketeer, and even then he said those names weren't firm.


"I've been taking new forms of transportation to work recently, like the bus, and the subway."


Now, if I were to make that statement, wouldn't make more sense if I were actually taking the forms of transportation I mentioned? I shouldn't make that statement if I were, say, walking and riding my bike, it would be extremely misleading.

Let's apply that to a news article setting. See how it makes less sense to say:

"Her Majesty the Queen was questioned today about various scandals, like running a child pornography operation out of the back of a rusty Canadian school bus, and nine consecutive attempts to cover up first degree murder."

If the actual scandal happened to be about minor tax evasion?

Here's an idea for the article: say, "Final Fantasy XIV will be adding in jobs (not classes) bearing traditional Final Fantasy names, such as Paladin, Dragoon, Bard, Warrior, Black Mage, and White Mage." If the article said a statement like that, then their sentences would be less confusing and they would actually contain accurate information. Listing out names that have no confirmed bearing in the game is just a strange thing to do if you're supposed to be reporting.

Otherwise, it's just silly.
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#13 Oct 11 2011 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
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twas kinda stupid to make a review just before 1.19 release...
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#15 Oct 11 2011 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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KaneKitty is right, that instance is just bad writing.

In fact the entire piece is poorly written, as bsphil points out.

This is a much better article on the patch.
#16 Oct 11 2011 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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No one ever disputed it being poorly written. KK said that the reviewer stated that fighter would be a job coming to FFXIV and he clearly didn't. Hopefully clicking the red arrow improves reading comprehension.
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#17 Oct 11 2011 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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That isn't even a review. It never claims to be a review of the game ever. It is just going over the changes that final fantasy xiv has had over the year. It does have an optimistic point of view about the game, but it is not a review. Looking at it as a review is unfair since it is not.
#18 Oct 13 2011 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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With the coming changes they said they are changing all the job names to classical Final Fantasy names, like fighter, black mage, white mage etc. This game has nowhere to go but up. I hope it gets to where it needs to be. This game should have been amazing, but at launch it was a dud. If you are looking to get into FInal Fantasy XIV wait until after October 4, 2011, when patch 1.9 comes out.


Guess I'm kinda out of the loop been when did they mention this?


This is not a "review" in any meaningful sense of the word.

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KaneKitty is right, that instance is just bad writing.

In fact the entire piece is poorly written, as bsphil points out.

This is a much better article on the patch.


That's pretty much just "FFXIV as seen through fanboy goggles"


Edited, Oct 13th 2011 9:24pm by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#19 Oct 14 2011 at 5:41 AM Rating: Good
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Man you guys will argue over anything.
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