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#1 Oct 11 2011 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey Zam,

I played FFXIV for a few months after it came out, and despite being enthralled with the possibilities and potential the game had... I gave up in April. I played for as long as I could and defended what good I saw in the game to the best of my abilities but, ultimately, i was overwhelmed by its shortcomings and decided to take a break / quit. I have, however, checked in on this site from time to time to see what kinds of updates are in the works and to my understanding there have been some major updates recently. I'm curious to know, for those of you who have played this game since release or shortly thereafter, does it feel significantly more refined? I'm not looking for a list of changes, as I'm sure I can find them all with a little effort but I would like to know how the game feels.

Thank in advance,
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#2 Oct 12 2011 at 12:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Improving quickly.

Ready for release and charging?

Nope.

But miles ahead of where it was.
#3 Oct 12 2011 at 12:47 AM Rating: Decent
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You own it. Install it, crank your settings way down so you don't have a seizure and play it for yourself.

Why do people keep asking what cherry koolaid tastes like when they know **** well they have a pitcher full of it sitting in their own icebox... seriously?



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And why do people feel the need to post stupid responses to an honest question?

Relax man.

This game isn't going to improve with its current subscriber base, and if people act hostile at potential customers, its definitely not going to increase in subscriptions.

I'm not asking anyone to sugar coat the situation, but attacking individuals with real inquisitions isn't helping.


Edited, Oct 12th 2011 2:57am by DoctorMog
#5 Oct 12 2011 at 12:57 AM Rating: Good
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It's at home and I'm away at school. Also, even if I did have it with me, I use a mac so I have to run it on bootcamp. If I wanted to reinstall it just to try it I'd have to resize my bootcamp partition because it isn't big enough for the files I already have plus FFXIV. Resize = delete and reinstall since I'm no comp whiz. That is a big commitment just to try it out so I would like some input before I go through with all that.

But thank you for the advice.

Edit: and thank you for answering the original question DoctorMog

Edited, Oct 12th 2011 2:58am by FinalSwag
#6 Oct 12 2011 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default
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Improving quickly.


Over a year to get to this point is quickly? Considering most MMOs only last 4-5 years I'd say not.
#7 Oct 12 2011 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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The game itself still has many tweaks and issues that creep up, and you will see many people post about the isues it still has. You have to keep in mind they are seeing these because they are looking for them. Players who have stayed even a little active over the past year will still see the smallest flaws like neon lights in a dark room.

For someone who played, then left for about a year, and is coming back... you will be amazed. The class system is much more fluid, the battle fights are way more balanced (harder)... which I personally like... I do not think being able to kill anything with ease makes for good gaming. This game offers a little for everyone, old school grinders (like myself) can lose track of time gathering off in the middle of a seemless landscape for hours. People who lean towards the 'money' side of things can craft and sell items to their hearts content. Lastly, those of us (again me included) who like to just pound the crap out of some poor unsuspecting fuzzy critter have many directions to go.

For me the best part of the game is the classes, being able to go pugilist and punch in a Kobold's nose one minute, then switch to Conjurer and blow up a lost sheep. With every job class/skillset available you can always try something different and find one that is fun no matter what your mood.

Once we get more people playing and get more player interactions going it will improve things but for now, this is miles beyond the release version of the game.
#8 Oct 12 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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Improving quickly.


Over a year to get to this point is quickly? Considering most MMOs only last 4-5 years I'd say not.
Considering the state it was in when the released it, and how long it took them to realize that they messed up, I'd say they are doing a good job at covering ground as quickly as possible.
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Improving quickly.


Over a year to get to this point is quickly? Considering most MMOs only last 4-5 years I'd say not.


Please list all the pay to play MMO's that lasted only 4-5 years. Free to play is an entirely different story and category.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/monthlyFee/sOrder/desc

So yeah, most of those games on the pay list are still running...




@ THE OP

The game is definitely worth checking out again! They are really starting to make a come back and some great changes have been made, are being made, and will in the future be made. They are adding more content, be it a little slower than most MMO's but hey its easier to add content to a game when you're building it rather than fix a broken one and add content. Jobs are coming in the next couple months, they are redesigning all the zones, possibly new classes in the next few months / patches (Arcanist and Musketeer), they're adding new quests pretty much with every patch. There is quite a few things to do right now, maybe not all of them are 'amazing' and some people call them lame but it's different. Ever since the latest patch, I've been playing quite a bit more and neglecting other games I've recently bought. I can certainly see this game turning into something great and lasting for a while.

My opinion and game rating as of now:

UI 7 / 10 - still a bit clunky, they seemed to improve response time a bit more in the latest patch but nothing amazingly noticeable. They are adding 'saving' action bars so you don't have to reset your abilities when you change classes which will be amazing! Finally added UI lock... thank goodness. They streamlined some things like selling items and crafting. It's on it's way to being pretty good. Also heard that they are completely re-doing the UI for pc players!

Sound 9 / 10 - They added new music for the Grand Company event thing that's going on, I like it 100x more than the original soundtracks for the cities. Overall there is some good music in here. Also they finally added the ability to control the ambient sounds like wind, rain, etc.... that is awesome.

Graphics 10 / 10 - Seriously what can you say? PC requirements for max settings might be steep but its worth it to see the amount of detail they put in the game.

Controls 9 / 10 - I don't really have a problem with the controls other than maybe the targeting is a bit clunky still. It's not horrible but it could use a little tweaking here and there, especially when using TAB. Even the mouse-click sometimes will target myself instead of the mob infront of me. Not a huge issue though.

Combat 9 / 10 - They have adjusted this in the recent patch, so everything has been scaled down. You take less damage, you do less damage, fights last 30-45 seconds, you can chain exp, mobs link, group dynamics are becoming more important especially in end-game like the Strongholds they put in. Once jobs arrive it should be pretty awesome. There is still a little delay from when you press your abilities to when you actually see the visual of them going off. They also made it so you can pull your weapon out very quickly (and if you haven't been on in a while you no longer stop.. to pull it out)!

Content 7 / 10 - The more the better! So far... a lot of different types of quests (Grand Company, leve, side-quest, class quests) I think there is like 134 in total. They added airships, chocobos, Grand Company full initiation, Ifrit fight, beastment camps, beastmen strongholds, 2 instanced raids (Darkhold and Toto-rak), an open world dungeon (Shop), carvan escort, materia system, re-vamped crafting recipes. I think I covered most of it but they could use about 2x as much for it to be considered enough.

Generic overall rating: I'd say with everything from the latest patch this game is a 7.5 moving towards an 8, possibly already there. It's keeping my attention. Somethings need work and there are a lot of things that "we are planning to do this in the future" or "we will talk about this and see what we can do" so I'm happy if I see SE come through on there commitments and keep improving the game. I think it's moving in a good direction for both casual and more hardcore people to both enjoy.


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Edited, Oct 12th 2011 9:06am by RemVye
#10 Oct 12 2011 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I think 1.19 is the point where things start looking up. I have been logging in here and there after each update, checking out the changes, doing a few things with my LS, then staying off til the next update. However, I have been playing pretty solidly for the last week, and I actually have a list of things I want to get done now, and it's going to take me about a month to do it.

I'm leveling Miner to 50 to support this (currently 44, up 3 levels since the patch). I'll be back to ARM, heading for 50 (currently 33... not the most exciting prospect, but there's sufficient reason to get it done now). I've been farming hogs near Treespeak with my LNC at about 340 Exp each (for Materia), and boar hides to support my rampant gear consumption. Then there's Ifrit, which so far has been pretty exciting if not particularly rewarding.

I don't know what it would be like for a low level player coming back, but if you are of a medium to high level, then you will find plenty to do. Having said all of this, the UI is still a pain in the *** (though manageable), and the game is still more demanding of the hardware than seems necessary. Like Doctor Mog said, it's not release-ready, but I find it to be shaping up quite well.
#11 Oct 12 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Please list all the pay to play MMO's that lasted only 4-5 years. Free to play is an entirely different story and category.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/monthlyFee/sOrder/desc

So yeah, most of those games on the pay list are still running...

FFXIV is F2P so far... So he's not wrong to compare it to those until further notice. FFXIV doesn't get to assume the lifetime of the monthly fee MMOS until it yknow, HAS A MONTHLY FEE (that people are willing to pay). If they were charging money they'd have to make these changes even more quickly... So yeah, argument invalidated.

Edited, Oct 12th 2011 9:14am by RattyBatty
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#12 Oct 12 2011 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
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RattyBatty wrote:
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Please list all the pay to play MMO's that lasted only 4-5 years. Free to play is an entirely different story and category.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/monthlyFee/sOrder/desc

So yeah, most of those games on the pay list are still running...

FFXIV is F2P so far... So he's not wrong to compare it to those until further notice. FFXIV doesn't get to assume the lifetime of the monthly fee MMOS until it yknow, HAS A MONTHLY FEE (that people are willing to pay). If they were charging money they'd have to make these changes even more quickly... So yeah, argument invalidated.

Edited, Oct 12th 2011 9:14am by RattyBatty



Disagree. Technically still a P2P game with an 'extended free trial' until it is fixed and up to standards that SE and players deem good enough to pay for. You can't compare it to a free to play game because, hey guess what I paid to buy the game for one and in the future you will have to pay to play it. Hence it doesn't have the same life expectancy as a free to play game. Your counter-argument is invalidated since the game costs more than $0.00

I argue that it does get to assume the lifetime of a P2P, we are lucky to be able to play it while they fix it rather than them shut down the whole game and re-release it in a year or two.

Not here for a ******* match, you Ace-in-the-hole. :D Thanks for the down vote.
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RemVye wrote:
Runespider wrote:
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Improving quickly.


Over a year to get to this point is quickly? Considering most MMOs only last 4-5 years I'd say not.


Please list all the pay to play MMO's that lasted only 4-5 years. Free to play is an entirely different story and category.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/monthlyFee/sOrder/desc

So yeah, most of those games on the pay list are still running...




@ THE OP

The game is definitely worth checking out again! They are really starting to make a come back and some great changes have been made, are being made, and will in the future be made. They are adding more content, be it a little slower than most MMO's but hey its easier to add content to a game when you're building it rather than fix a broken one and add content. Jobs are coming in the next couple months, they are redesigning all the zones, possibly new classes in the next few months / patches (Arcanist and Musketeer), they're adding new quests pretty much with every patch. There is quite a few things to do right now, maybe not all of them are 'amazing' and some people call them lame but it's different. Ever since the latest patch, I've been playing quite a bit more and neglecting other games I've recently bought. I can certainly see this game turning into something great and lasting for a while.

My opinion and game rating as of now:

UI 7 / 10 - still a bit clunky, they seemed to improve response time a bit more in the latest patch but nothing amazingly noticeable. They are adding 'saving' action bars so you don't have to reset your abilities when you change classes which will be amazing! Finally added UI lock... thank goodness. They streamlined some things like selling items and crafting. It's on it's way to being pretty good. Also heard that they are completely re-doing the UI for pc players!

Sound 9 / 10 - They added new music for the Grand Company event thing that's going on, I like it 100x more than the original soundtracks for the cities. Overall there is some good music in here. Also they finally added the ability to control the ambient sounds like wind, rain, etc.... that is awesome.

Graphics 10 / 10 - Seriously what can you say? PC requirements for max settings might be steep but its worth it to see the amount of detail they put in the game.

Controls 9 / 10 - I don't really have a problem with the controls other than maybe the targeting is a bit clunky still. It's not horrible but it could use a little tweaking here and there, especially when using TAB. Even the mouse-click sometimes will target myself instead of the mob infront of me. Not a huge issue though.

Combat 9 / 10 - They have adjusted this in the recent patch, so everything has been scaled down. You take less damage, you do less damage, fights last 30-45 seconds, you can chain exp, mobs link, group dynamics are becoming more important especially in end-game like the Strongholds they put in. Once jobs arrive it should be pretty awesome. There is still a little delay from when you press your abilities to when you actually see the visual of them going off. They also made it so you can pull your weapon out very quickly (and if you haven't been on in a while you no longer stop.. to pull it out)!

Content 7 / 10 - The more the better! So far... a lot of different types of quests (Grand Company, leve, side-quest, class quests) I think there is like 134 in total. They added airships, chocobos, Grand Company full initiation, Ifrit fight, beastment camps, beastmen strongholds, 2 instanced raids (Darkhold and Toto-rak), an open world dungeon (Shop), carvan escort, materia system, re-vamped crafting recipes. I think I covered most of it but they could use about 2x as much for it to be considered enough.

Generic overall rating: I'd say with everything from the latest patch this game is a 7.5 moving towards an 8, possibly already there. It's keeping my attention. Somethings need work and there are a lot of things that "we are planning to do this in the future" or "we will talk about this and see what we can do" so I'm happy if I see SE come through on there commitments and keep improving the game. I think it's moving in a good direction for both casual and more hardcore people to both enjoy.


The end.

Edited, Oct 12th 2011 9:06am by RemVye


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#14 Oct 12 2011 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Nope its FFXIV! You must love WoW! Go play that :D problem solved.
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Let's see how many people this game is going to lose to November... Then Guild Wars 2 and diablo 3 comes out.. well let's just say things are about to get pretty rough for FFXIV in the holiday season of 2011 into 2012..
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#16 Oct 12 2011 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I'm definitely looking forward to Diablo3, but the same is said in every game forum. League of Legends, WoW, SWToR, etc... wait till this game comes out and it will crush this game. We won't know until it happens, but Diablo3 isn't P2Play so I can play both.

Have to agree though, this year is going to be stellar for games!
#17 Oct 12 2011 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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RattyBatty wrote:

FFXIV is F2P so far... So he's not wrong to compare it to those until further notice.


I don't think you understand what a free-to-play MMO is or understand the difference between the two. FFXIV is NOT a F2P game, just because they are not charging a monthly fee.
#18 Oct 13 2011 at 5:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol @ the ghost downvote abusers. How do you downvote something that is a fact? Anyhow, I'm really looking forward to D3, honestly though, I feel like the people who are still playing ffxiv aren't going to be swayed by anything but its failure or success. By now, people who are going to leave for other games have done so, imo.
#19 Oct 13 2011 at 7:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was in same boat with you 2 weeks ago and decided to try FF14 out and I am happy I did.
The game is A LOT better from spring and I am actually having fun.
The game has become interesting and now all it needs is some tweaks (like party search function) and MORE PLAYERS and voila, we have a great game in our hands <3
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