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#352 Dec 01 2011 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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I don't understand your point here.. People spend more $$ on f2p games with cash shops, that are worse then XIV in ever way, over 3 months then what it will cost to p2p XIV for 1 year. SE's neck will be on the chopping block in 11 months. I just don't see the loss to pay even if only to test the patches as they roll out.


I don't understand your point here. People lay down money for things that bring them entertainment and joy. Your opinion of f2p games\cash shops is irrelevant. Whether or not they are 'worse' than XIV is subjective at best, and strictly a matter of personal opinion.

If I want to lay down a million RL dollars in some hello kitty knockoff that lets me dress up a 16 bit pixelated representation of a tabby cat in a tuxedo and send him off off to battle the reapers in deep space with a lollipop dispensing assault rifle, then that's what I enjoy and no amount of arguing that some other game is 'better' makes a difference. It's just not logical. Of course, my example isn't particularly logical either, but I made it outrageous to illustrate a point.

I'm just not sure who you are really trying to convince of the value, us or yourself.

Edited, Dec 1st 2011 3:28pm by Torrence
#353 Dec 02 2011 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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I don't understand your point here.. People spend more $$ on f2p games with cash shops, that are worse then XIV in ever way, over 3 months then what it will cost to p2p XIV for 1 year. SE's neck will be on the chopping block in 11 months. I just don't see the loss to pay even if only to test the patches as they roll out.


Because sane people who have to work for their money and not have it handed to them by mommy and/or daddy don't pay to beta test someone's software for them.
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#354 Dec 04 2011 at 8:16 AM Rating: Default
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Your pol is fun, but biased. A lot more FF14 fans who enjoy the game as it is will more likely to see this thread then those who dislike the game. The haters quit the game and don't read the FF14 forums.

But fun anyway.
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#355 Dec 04 2011 at 9:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aegisknox wrote:
Your pol is fun, but biased. A lot more FF14 fans who enjoy the game as it is will more likely to see this thread then those who dislike the game. The haters quit the game and don't read the FF14 forums.

But fun anyway.

Even given that, most people in the poll aren't willing to pay right away.

For me, there's so little to do, I may end up just paying during patch months. It's going to be a long year with the humble populations in place being slashed even further.
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#356 Dec 05 2011 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
I was all in. But I've been playing some really fun games lately and the though of returning to FFXIV makes me cringe.

My favorite part, regular EXP parties, has taken second fiddle to endgame content that I personally do not enjoy. I thought they would fix PL'ing, but it seems to be mostly working as intended. Ack! By now, they must be aware of the AFK PL workarounds, but fixing those loopholes is clearly not a priority.

The FFXIV that I enjoyed is gone for now. Not even sure if it will return. I have some great friends in-game, and I feel like maybe I'm letting them down by not playing anymore. I can't just play for their sake though, I want to enjoy my freetime activities.

So, like many others, I will check back after 1.20 is released and make the call when the time comes. If AFK PL'ing remains possible, then that will be the end for me.

Edited, Dec 5th 2011 11:39am by SmashingtonWho
#357 Dec 05 2011 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
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I'm out until after 2.0. There is one thing that makes me weary of 2.0 though... They mention that they are redesigning the graphics engine to be compatible with the PS3. So more than likely, the beautiful graphics we have all become accustomed to will be diminished.
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#358 Dec 05 2011 at 9:12 PM Rating: Good
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I'm out until after 2.0. There is one thing that makes me weary of 2.0 though... They mention that they are redesigning the graphics engine to be compatible with the PS3. So more than likely, the beautiful graphics we have all become accustomed to will be diminished.


No they won't.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/10/19/gamer-escape-interview-with-naoki-yoshida-the-truth-is-out-there/
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As for DX 11, the first thing the dev team feels we have to do after the release of 2.0 is have a graphics engine that can accommodate the high-end computers and let those players have the highest quality graphics, smooth playability and a lot of different characters on screen- not the 40 we have now but having lots of characters displayed without having performance lag. But we’re also looking at the users with lower end computers as well and being able to create a system where you don’t have to have a high end PC to play. It also means having a system that will also handle the PS3 hardware as well that you have and just because it’s on the PS3 doesn’t mean it’s going to have lower quality. Maintaining quality for all three platforms- for high-end, low-end and PS3 and having an engine that will support this is what we’re aiming for with 2.0 and once that’s completed, and we hope to have that completed for 2.0, the next step will be to get the game ready for DX 11. So it’s in our schedule but we decided to make sure we had those three things covered by 2.0 and pushed back DX 11 for now. It’s not off the table thought and definitely the next thing we do after this.


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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/31546-Request-to-Eliminate-or-Reduce-Party-Requirements?p=468489#post468489
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As we move forward, we'll be looking into implementing both a level sync system and easing up on the level restrictions on instanced raids. Currently however, we don't have any plans to ease up on these restrictions, but we'll be sure to take feedback like this into account as we make adjustments.

Level Sync is planned.
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#359 Dec 09 2011 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks Elionara for pointing that out. I must have missed the info about keeping the high-end graphics and the plans for the DX11. Smiley: cool


Edited, Dec 9th 2011 4:16pm by Corthaemus
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#360 Dec 09 2011 at 6:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm out. So far the game has peaked for me at 1.17. I played this game to have something to do with RL friends scattered about the country. And they all left after the changes to leves in 1.18. We'll all probably check back in for 2.0 though. But right now, if I want to play something I have options that aren't going to cost me money and frustrate me. There is a lot of minor things that show the planning seems fairly short sighted (materia for water potency one update, elimination of water magic the next).

I was excited about the jobs/class changes but after reading about them I just wondered what was the point. They have a touch of contradiction from previous statements made from yoshi-p

with that being said, I'm still going to give 1.20 a shot because I want to like the game.
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#361 Dec 09 2011 at 7:41 PM Rating: Excellent
I think in the long run it really doesn't matter how bad the game was compared to now or what FFXIV has or doesn't have compared to other games. Most of the time people will go out and get something or do something or play something because they like it, or own/did/played something similar. Liking or not liking that based on a prior opinion is fine, but campaigning against something based off of personal opinion/taste is silly.

Anyone who has any information on FFXIV since launch could have a tainted/biased view of the game versus someone who happened upon it right now. While I won't claim anyone's opinion is wrong, there are few things about the game as it is right now (including forthcoming changes in 1.20, don't forget I said this) that are desperately in need of attention. I can't make any facts based on a new players perspective of course but from a veterans perspective my only real qualms with the game is elemental destabilization. The battle system seems fine, I am not even missing the ability to tweak my stats (good riddance, I say). Targeting doesn't really seem to be that big a deal, I guess it could be improved, but I couldn't explain how. I do miss my FFXI UI, but different game so no big deal. Would like a menu vs. action bar option but I can live without it. They already mention that they are breaking the zones down in 2.0, can't really say anything more in that area.

Well I think that's about it...oh, well I guess I could mention stronghold difficulty (gold chests) but I will hold off my opinion on that for release of jobs (I have a feeling it will improve fighting in that regards.)

Considering how long my list of complaints used to be...I have to say I am fairly impressed with the progress made so far.

Not all people will see it the way I do though, and that's okay, as long as no one tries to force their opinion down other peoples throats.
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#362 Dec 11 2011 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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i love FFXI an V sure they have there flaws but so does FFXI i am going too stay no matter what they are trying there best they gave us all this free time an now yall wanna run when they start charging lol sad sad anyways yall can leave i am staying have a merry christmas
#363 Dec 11 2011 at 7:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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robleyf7 wrote:
i love FFXI an V sure they have there flaws but so does FFXI i am going too stay no matter what they are trying there best they gave us all this free time an now yall wanna run when they start charging lol sad sad anyways yall can leave i am staying have a merry christmas


Rate up for you and cheers to your enthusiasm. May Santa fill your stocking with punctuation.
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#364 Dec 11 2011 at 9:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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robleyf7 wrote:
i am going too stay no matter what they are trying there best they gave us all this free time an now yall wanna run when they start charging lol sad sad


It is sad when a small indie company like Square-Enix, who makes games not for profit but for artful dedication to the medium, is abandoned by its jaded and impatient players.
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#365 Dec 11 2011 at 10:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think in the long run it really doesn't matter how bad the game was compared to now or what FFXIV has or doesn't have compared to other games. Most of the time people will go out and get something or do something or play something because they like it, or own/did/played something similar. Liking or not liking that based on a prior opinion is fine, but campaigning against something based off of personal opinion/taste is silly.

Anyone who has any information on FFXIV since launch could have a tainted/biased view of the game versus someone who happened upon it right now. While I won't claim anyone's opinion is wrong, there are few things about the game as it is right now (including forthcoming changes in 1.20, don't forget I said this) that are desperately in need of attention. I can't make any facts based on a new players perspective of course but from a veterans perspective my only real qualms with the game is elemental destabilization. The battle system seems fine, I am not even missing the ability to tweak my stats (good riddance, I say). Targeting doesn't really seem to be that big a deal, I guess it could be improved, but I couldn't explain how. I do miss my FFXI UI, but different game so no big deal. Would like a menu vs. action bar option but I can live without it. They already mention that they are breaking the zones down in 2.0, can't really say anything more in that area.

Well I think that's about it...oh, well I guess I could mention stronghold difficulty (gold chests) but I will hold off my opinion on that for release of jobs (I have a feeling it will improve fighting in that regards.)

Considering how long my list of complaints used to be...I have to say I am fairly impressed with the progress made so far.

Not all people will see it the way I do though, and that's okay, as long as no one tries to force their opinion down other peoples throats.







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Considering how long my list of complaints used to be...I have to say I am fairly impressed with the progress made so far.

Not all people will see it the way I do though, and that's okay, as long as no one tries to force their opinion down other peoples throats.



Glad to see you lightened up a bit you used to be one of the worst at forcing their opinion down other peoples throats.
#366 Dec 13 2011 at 6:04 PM Rating: Default
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robleyf7 wrote:
i am going too stay no matter what they are trying there best they gave us all this free time an now yall wanna run when they start charging lol sad sad


It is sad when a small indie company like Square-Enix, who makes games not for profit but for artful dedication to the medium, is abandoned by its jaded and impatient players.


I really hope that this is sarcasm and not how you really look at SE. If it is sarcasm LOL. If not... O.o ...LOL.
Sorry but on this forum you really can not tell anymore.
#367 Dec 13 2011 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Sethern79 wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
robleyf7 wrote:
i am going too stay no matter what they are trying there best they gave us all this free time an now yall wanna run when they start charging lol sad sad


It is sad when a small indie company like Square-Enix, who makes games not for profit but for artful dedication to the medium, is abandoned by its jaded and impatient players.


I really hope that this is sarcasm and not how you really look at SE. If it is sarcasm LOL. If not... O.o ...LOL.
Sorry but on this forum you really can not tell anymore.


.... Really ? Wow!
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#368 Dec 13 2011 at 8:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sethern79 wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
It is sad when a small indie company like Square-Enix, who makes games not for profit but for artful dedication to the medium, is abandoned by its jaded and impatient players.

I really hope that this is sarcasm and not how you really look at SE. If it is sarcasm LOL. If not... O.o ...LOL.
Sorry but on this forum you really can not tell anymore.


I think I'll just leave it a "mystery," in that case... Smiley: sly
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