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#1 Oct 15 2011 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
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This is a huge mistake on SE I cannot say it enough. The servers will suffer a dramatic lost in many players with nothing promising in patch 1.20 which is when the monthly fee is being reinstated. They are asking players to pay and receiving nothing in return other than "adjustments" and one primal battle that can be finished in a day. At a MINIMAL, jobs must be added!
#2 Oct 15 2011 at 3:33 PM Rating: Default
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they never said it was going to be with 1.2 ... i belive it was nov-dec lol
and arent they adding the job system with 1.2?


i have alot of thinking too do.. idk if im staying just played star wars TOR @ comic con ny and it cough my attation lol
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#3 Oct 15 2011 at 3:43 PM Rating: Default
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You are right and mistaken. We will have patch 1.20 when the monthly fee comes back, however jobs come in 1.21 which is somewhere in February!
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oohhh lol welll in that caseee


since we in the topic; jobs arent going to replace the class system but it going to be more of a subjob kinda thing , right?
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#5Imaboomer, Posted: Oct 15 2011 at 4:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jobs replace classes for party play. Jobs are classic FF series roles.
#6 Oct 15 2011 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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They way they worded their announcement it pretty much sounded as if they HAVE to start charging now. Dunno, but it would make sense. I do agree it would be smarter to wait until 1.21 and the jobs, IF they can, but if they can't they can't.
#7 Oct 15 2011 at 4:27 PM Rating: Excellent
The last time they mentioned the size of heir development team for FFXIV it was at about 100, now they state that they have upped that to 250. It doesn't matter anymore if they lose 50% of the players because of how they are going to "relaunch" the game. They need whatever subscriptions they can get.
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#8 Oct 15 2011 at 4:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
The last time they mentioned the size of heir development team for FFXIV it was at about 100, now they state that they have upped that to 250. It doesn't matter anymore if they lose 50% of the players because of how they are going to "relaunch" the game. They need whatever subscriptions they can get.


Doesn't matter to who? My server couldn't withstand a 50% reduction in players. It would be barren. Hard enough to do anything as it is. Maybe some of the servers with higher populations will be ok but those low on the list will be dead.
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#9 Oct 15 2011 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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If anyone is interested enough to play the game now, but not when it isn't free, those people are likely to give it another shot at the start of 2.0. That's what SE really cares about anyway, the current population wouldn't be enough even if they all stayed. But in the mean time they are going to charge. Seriously, the game has reached a playable state imo. If not, get off the train and hop on later.

The free ride is over guys. Get over it.

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StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
It doesn't matter anymore if they lose 50% of the players because of how they are going to "relaunch" the game.


I'm not sure I follow the logic. It doesn't matter to a business hemorrhaging money that half of their prospective subs will be leaving, possibly never to return? It doesn't matter to those brave souls willing to fork over cash to play with less people, perhaps even having to reform groups due to people they used to run 'events' with because some of them may leave?


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Yeah, there's no harm in just taking a break until more is implemented; it's not like once you quit there's no way to return.^^
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#12 Oct 15 2011 at 7:55 PM Rating: Excellent
The fact of the matter is at this point with Version 2.0 they are basically releasing a whole new game. I think that in thier minds its more of "how can we boost our profits now" not "do we care if people continue to play version 1.0".

I just hope SE decides to give the people who stuck it out the first two years something speacial, as a "thank you for putting up with all the bs" kinda thing.

As far as numbers goes...say there are only 50000 active accounts right now...and lets say 25000 of those deactivate upon subscriptions being reinstated, at 15$ a month (idr what the actual sub fee is) that is still 375,000$ per month in revenue over the course of the next year that is 4.5 million dollars. they need that exta money for development. so when it comes down to it i believe SE si willing to drop half its active players to make some moolah.

Besides anyone who doesn't pay is missing out imo. This game is worth paying for at this point. Maybe not to some of the veterans, but to newbies who have yet to experience anything...yeah there is plenty to do, and the content from 1.0 is also exclusive, so if you dont do it now, you wont experience it in 2.0.

idk just my 2gil.
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#13 Oct 15 2011 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
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Imaboomer wrote:
This is a huge mistake on SE I cannot say it enough. The servers will suffer a dramatic lost in many players with nothing promising in patch 1.20 which is when the monthly fee is being reinstated. They are asking players to pay and receiving nothing in return other than "adjustments" and one primal battle that can be finished in a day. At a MINIMAL, jobs must be added!


Have you beaten Ifrit yet? The first group to take him down took 5 days of near non-stop trying to take him down. I don't think there are that many shells taking him down at this point. Our shell just started trying this weekend to take him down as we finally finished materia farming. Finishing a primal battle in a day ... doubt that.
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#14 Oct 15 2011 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
100 paying customers garner more money than 1000 people paying nothing at all. I don't think the loss will be quite as large as people are propagating.
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I imagine everyone has their own standards of what makes FFXIV "worth paying for." You will accept nothing less than jobs, and that is fine. Others will accept a new primal battle, and that is fine too.

I would prefer we not pay $12.99 at all for a beta.
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I should suspect it came down to:
Do we shut the servers and re open them when the game relaunches
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Do we charge people for a chance to continue paying

Either way the amount of money saved will probably be equal, and for the fraction of players who are willing to pay, its a thoughtful sentiment.
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You guys can keep calling it a beta all you want, but if it is, it is one **** of a beta. With the updates starting in 1.19, I find the game more than playable and enjoyable, even if it is far from "finished" (is an MMO ever finished anyway?).

Over the next year, those of us playing will get to see the game morph from what it is now into what will be considered FFXIV 2.0. We'll get to watch it from the technical aspect as gaming methods continue to morph and from a storyline prospective as missions will attempt to explain this new world in the context of the story. And after all is said and done, all your character progress made in this "beta" will remain in the new game.

If that's not worth your time and monthly fee, then come back later. I personally am in and am just as excited to be around during the transformations over the next year as I am the "finished" product.
#18 Oct 16 2011 at 9:48 AM Rating: Default
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You guys can keep calling it a beta all you want, but if it is, it is one **** of a beta. With the updates starting in 1.19, I find the game more than playable and enjoyable, even if it is far from "finished" (is an MMO ever finished anyway?).

Over the next year, those of us playing will get to see the game morph from what it is now into what will be considered FFXIV 2.0. We'll get to watch it from the technical aspect as gaming methods continue to morph and from a storyline prospective as missions will attempt to explain this new world in the context of the story. And after all is said and done, all your character progress made in this "beta" will remain in the new game.

If that's not worth your time and monthly fee, then come back later. I personally am in and am just as excited to be around during the transformations over the next year as I am the "finished" product.


It is a beta, from yoshi's own mouth "We are 50% where we would like to be at release"

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Ostia wrote:

It is a beta, from yoshi's own mouth "We are 50% where we would like to be at release"


Don't put quotation marks when that is not a true quote at all. Otherwise, show me the link where he used the words "at release".
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Does it matter what we call it? Beta or not, I pay money for games to have fun. If someone is having a blast playing beta, then that's their choice and nothing's wrong with that.

Same thing on the other extreme--even if it's a finished product, if I'm not having fun, I'm not paying. That's all it really comes down to for me.
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Imaboomer wrote:
This is a huge mistake on SE I cannot say it enough. The servers will suffer a dramatic lost in many players with nothing promising in patch 1.20 which is when the monthly fee is being reinstated. They are asking players to pay and receiving nothing in return other than "adjustments" and one primal battle that can be finished in a day. At a MINIMAL, jobs must be added!



I think you're making way to big of a deal about it.
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Besides anyone who doesn't pay is missing out imo. This game is worth paying for at this point. Maybe not to some of the veterans, but to newbies who have yet to experience anything...yeah there is plenty to do, and the content from 1.0 is also exclusive, so if you dont do it now, you wont experience it in 2.0.

idk just my 2gil.


Sorry to double post, but I highly agree with this. The game in it's current form, and the upcoming patch is highly enjoyable. Much more-so than most any other MMO out there as far as I'm concerned.

The team at SE has taken a pile of rubble and is now building a very nice game. I just look at the upcoming jobs as something that will be a nice bonus after I've been paying for a month or two!

P.s. I don't know if other people also say this or not, but I love the 2 gil comment :)

Edited, Oct 16th 2011 2:52pm by je355804
#23 Oct 16 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
I'll probably start paying again when the 'completely different game' is achieved at around the time of the PS3 launch next holiday season.
If people feel like they will be getting their money's worth if they start to pay now, more power to them.

Personally I still feel cheated from paying for the collector's edition. If the game is worth playing at the end of next year I'll finally feel as if I've gotten my money's worth. That will be a long return on my investment (and I'm not even counting the money I put into a new PC to play this fiasco, since that was my fault and not SE's).

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I'll probably start paying again when the 'completely different game' is achieved at around the time of the PS3 launch next holiday season.
If people feel like they will be getting their money's worth if they start to pay now, more power to them.

Personally I still feel cheated from paying for the collector's edition. If the game is worth playing at the end of next year I'll finally feel as if I've gotten my money's worth. That will be a long return on my investment (and I'm not even counting the money I put into a new PC to play this fiasco, since that was my fault and not SE's).

Edited, Oct 16th 2011 2:07pm by Chialing


Your sig looks like you've put a lot of effort into the game. You can do all that in about 2 hours. Maybe id be able to take you more seriously and understand your decision if you played more than one day and saw all the changes. As of right now compared to release it just about is a "completely different game" I've gotten my money's worth and then some over the last year and have no problem paying to play.

Bye, see you in a year, hopefully not.

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I'll probably start paying again when the 'completely different game' is achieved at around the time of the PS3 launch next holiday season.
If people feel like they will be getting their money's worth if they start to pay now, more power to them.

Personally I still feel cheated from paying for the collector's edition. If the game is worth playing at the end of next year I'll finally feel as if I've gotten my money's worth. That will be a long return on my investment (and I'm not even counting the money I put into a new PC to play this fiasco, since that was my fault and not SE's).

Edited, Oct 16th 2011 2:07pm by Chialing


Your sig looks like you've put a lot of effort into the game. You can do all that in about 2 hours. Maybe id be able to take you more seriously and understand your decision if you played more than one day and saw all the changes. As of right now compared to release it just about is a "completely different game" Bye, see you in a year, hopefully not.


Maybe I'd take your comment more seriously if I didn't see all those 50s in your signature.
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Edited, Oct 16th 2011 2:07pm by Chialing



Maybe I'd take your comment more seriously if I didn't see all those 50s in your signature.



Logical.

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Maybe I'd take your comment more seriously if I didn't see all those 50s in your signature.
Logical.


Who cares about levels. Does the fact that his last name is "Thefarter" not cast a dubious shadow on his decision-making capabilities? XD



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I don't really care about levels. My point was this guy was judging the game based on a few hours he put into it probably prior to 1.18. Anyone who's played the game over the last month knows its been fixed enough to charge for. Adding jobs wouldn't make anyone stick around and shouldn't make ppl leave. The job system will not radically change the game. You don't need a rank 50 to see that but you need more than a few hours spent in game for me to take your opinions seriously.
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I don't really care about levels. My point was this guy was judging the game based on a few hours he put into it probably prior to 1.18. Anyone who's played the game over the last month knows its been fixed enough to charge for. Adding jobs wouldn't make anyone stick around and shouldn't make ppl leave. The job system will not radically change the game. You don't need a rank 50 to see that but you need more than a few hours spent in game for me to take your opinions seriously.


Oh, I understand what you mean; I just couldn't resist the opportunity to stoke the flames of hate by making fun of someone's name from the sidelines. :P
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xSanctusx wrote:
I don't really care about levels. My point was this guy was judging the game based on a few hours he put into it probably prior to 1.18. Anyone who's played the game over the last month knows its been fixed enough to charge for. Adding jobs wouldn't make anyone stick around and shouldn't make ppl leave. The job system will not radically change the game. You don't need a rank 50 to see that but you need more than a few hours spent in game for me to take your opinions seriously.


Oh, I understand what you mean; I just couldn't resist the opportunity to stoke the flames of hate by making fun of someone's name from the sidelines. :P



Haha it's all good. And ps the name comes from a Howard stern reference, not many ppl get it lol
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#31 Oct 16 2011 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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I fail to see how charging people for half a game is going to improve their public relations and customer base. lol
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The last time they mentioned the size of heir development team for FFXIV it was at about 100, now they state that they have upped that to 250. It doesn't matter anymore if they lose 50% of the players because of how they are going to "relaunch" the game. They need whatever subscriptions they can get.


Doesn't matter to who? My server couldn't withstand a 50% reduction in players. It would be barren. Hard enough to do anything as it is. Maybe some of the servers with higher populations will be ok but those low on the list will be dead.

People who have stuck around for this long would be happy to pay for it? I thought this game was much better then what was released after BETA?

The game may not have huge content but nor did XI on release and people still paid. SE Needs subscription FEEs and it is a much more realistic view of who is willing to stick around then a free game. I my self have not played much lately but I am waiting for PS3 release so I will not be paying for it for another 12 months. On the other hand I really do like the route the game is going down.
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I've been out the game for maybe 14 weeks now? I stopped after they Raids started as partying was becoming like bad Sky run flashbacks with all the ******** and I lost my way a bit. I logged in at the weekend after 1.19 and felt like a complete newbie again. I need to do my homework and get up to speed on all the new additions but for the changes I've seen and the fact I've had a year ftp I don't think I'll gripe over a $15 fee. The game looks better now, no doubt, and it looks like you actually have something to do - I got bombarded with linkshell sugggestions of "do this quest, do the caravn quest etc etc when I logged in." I would argue that the work put into the game since Yoshi P took over in February and the amount of improvements added would merit the charge. Plus I got EXCITED again when I looked at the dev roadmap for 2.0, the GUI alone had me drooling.

You can gripe that they are going to charge before they impliment feature 'X' but we know from the last year that if they say they'll do it then it will happen. They've basically committed to a dev plan too - although everyone knows that will probably be subject to delays. I guess my point is, they care about the game and are trying to do something positive about it, if you care too then you'll pay for it. If you don't then quit and come back for the two month free trial next year before 2.0 goes live.
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Sounds like they are sneaking in LFG into either 1.2 or 1.21, so yeah, that little jewel alone is worth it for me, and meh, wait a month or two for 1.21, and give them a little cash, I am game for that:).

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Being able to search different categories such as PC class, job, level, language, and people looking for a PT.


Yup, Yoshi confirmed it in the ZAM interview! We *should* have LFG in 1.20
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I am in for a dime, in for a dollar.

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Heck honestly i would had started to pay to play when it was first realesed, i know it had faults/ work to be done. But coming from wow, it looked refreshing,new,interesting. Just something other then wow. I guess that is the reason why i got back into FFXI. Granted the learning curve coming from wow back to FFXI is pretty steep ( i previously just mearly try'd out FFXI for around 2 months, then my xbox took a dump), but i guess that is where good-ole hard work/research comes into play.:P Been trying to keep up with all the updates to the game and future plans, and so far i have to say im looking forward to this, either it may be a good exp or a bad one. Ill take it however it might turn out. :)
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Let's face it: Yoshi-P is broke.

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Heck honestly i would had started to pay to play when it was first realesed, i know it had faults/ work to be done. But coming from wow, it looked refreshing,new,interesting. Just something other then wow. I guess that is the reason why i got back into FFXI. Granted the learning curve coming from wow back to FFXI is pretty steep ( i previously just mearly try'd out FFXI for around 2 months, then my xbox took a dump), but i guess that is where good-ole hard work/research comes into play.:P Been trying to keep up with all the updates to the game and future plans, and so far i have to say im looking forward to this, either it may be a good exp or a bad one. Ill take it however it might turn out. :)


What high expectations you have for your money.
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Heck honestly i would had started to pay to play when it was first realesed, i know it had faults/ work to be done. But coming from wow, it looked refreshing,new,interesting. Just something other then wow. I guess that is the reason why i got back into FFXI. Granted the learning curve coming from wow back to FFXI is pretty steep ( i previously just mearly try'd out FFXI for around 2 months, then my xbox took a dump), but i guess that is where good-ole hard work/research comes into play.:P Been trying to keep up with all the updates to the game and future plans, and so far i have to say im looking forward to this, either it may be a good exp or a bad one. Ill take it however it might turn out. :)


What high expectations you have for your money.


not trying to sound rude or like a A$$hat, but what are you getting at?
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cabellism wrote:
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cabellism wrote:
Heck honestly i would had started to pay to play when it was first realesed, i know it had faults/ work to be done. But coming from wow, it looked refreshing,new,interesting. Just something other then wow. I guess that is the reason why i got back into FFXI. Granted the learning curve coming from wow back to FFXI is pretty steep ( i previously just mearly try'd out FFXI for around 2 months, then my xbox took a dump), but i guess that is where good-ole hard work/research comes into play.:P Been trying to keep up with all the updates to the game and future plans, and so far i have to say im looking forward to this, either it may be a good exp or a bad one. Ill take it however it might turn out. :)


What high expectations you have for your money.


not trying to sound rude or like a A$$hat, but what are you getting at?


I just wonder why you'll just accept anything. You're a dream customer. No expectations, and you'll fork over your money no matter what.
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cabellism wrote:
Heck honestly i would had started to pay to play when it was first realesed, i know it had faults/ work to be done. But coming from wow, it looked refreshing,new,interesting. Just something other then wow. I guess that is the reason why i got back into FFXI. Granted the learning curve coming from wow back to FFXI is pretty steep ( i previously just mearly try'd out FFXI for around 2 months, then my xbox took a dump), but i guess that is where good-ole hard work/research comes into play.:P Been trying to keep up with all the updates to the game and future plans, and so far i have to say im looking forward to this, either it may be a good exp or a bad one. Ill take it however it might turn out. :)


What high expectations you have for your money.


not trying to sound rude or like a A$$hat, but what are you getting at?


I just wonder why you'll just accept anything. You're a dream customer. No expectations, and you'll fork over your money no matter what.


Hrm, i wouldnt honestly be a dream customer. I guess I left out in my first post I have yet to buy the game (dont have a pc that would be suitable to run it). All I have been merely doing is just keeping up with some update's,patch notes,etc. Tho I have watched alot of let's plays on youtube from beta to where it is currently, might be behind a patch since the person I have been watching hasn't posted any new vids since patch 1.18 I think. I guess my point is that, if I was able to play I would have bought the game on day 1. And from the looks of what is to be expected I would probably give the 2.0 version a shot too. Guess Im just a bit optimistic and more open-minded, **** you kinda have to be anymore.
#41 Oct 18 2011 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Chialing wrote:
I'll probably start paying again when the 'completely different game' is achieved at around the time of the PS3 launch next holiday season.
If people feel like they will be getting their money's worth if they start to pay now, more power to them.

Personally I still feel cheated from paying for the collector's edition. If the game is worth playing at the end of next year I'll finally feel as if I've gotten my money's worth. That will be a long return on my investment (and I'm not even counting the money I put into a new PC to play this fiasco, since that was my fault and not SE's).

Edited, Oct 16th 2011 2:07pm by Chialing


Your sig looks like you've put a lot of effort into the game. You can do all that in about 2 hours. Maybe id be able to take you more seriously and understand your decision if you played more than one day and saw all the changes. As of right now compared to release it just about is a "completely different game" I've gotten my money's worth and then some over the last year and have no problem paying to play.

Bye, see you in a year, hopefully not.

Edited, Oct 16th 2011 4:02pm by xSanctusx


I have been playing since beta, there is not that much of a difference between then and now, you either grind leves or grind dodos, sure now we got 2 dungeons, and one boss fight, Woot! Better than anything else on the market..... Except that's just not true :/
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I have been playing since beta, there is not that much of a difference between then and now, you either grind leves or grind dodos, sure now we got 2 dungeons, and one boss fight, Woot! Better than anything else on the market..... Except that's just not true :/


So you see NO changes in between beta and now..... erm..... I'll leave this one to the wolf's...
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TwiddleDee wrote:
Ostia wrote:
I have been playing since beta, there is not that much of a difference between then and now, you either grind leves or grind dodos, sure now we got 2 dungeons, and one boss fight, Woot! Better than anything else on the market..... Except that's just not true :/


So you see NO changes in between beta and now..... erm..... I'll leave this one to the wolf's...


What wolfs ? And better yet, what has changed fundamentally ? Auto attack has been the only real change, and is not like battle is totally different from before, you wait for TP, you spam skills, there is really no depth to the combat system, now or before, and that's the only thing that has really changed in one year from beta to now.

You have to see what has changed from the perspective of somebody who left at release, and is looking from the outside in, not from somebody that has been playing all along, since well their standards are probably lower or non existent, or dunno they believe SE does no wrong(No disrespect to having low standards btw), but the game has not changed fundamentally, there is still a naked grind, there is still lag, there is still no AH, there is still no engaging content at any level, sure it has had improvements, but when you see what other MMO are putting out in patches, and all we have to show a year after is 2 dungeons, one boss fight and some faction leves, well it falls short.

See i dont dislike the game, i currently play, but i left wow a few months after cata, i was burned out, i gave this game a try, dint hold a candle to it, gave it time, came back now, still does not hold a candle to cata at release, and they have put out huge patches after i left, and dunno i have not checked back, but i will probably will, from my point of view, why pay a sub, for a game that is in beta stage, that one year after release, it does not has an AH, a LFG tool, endgame content, no real storyline to follow, you reach lvl 50 and you continue to grind, in hopes that one day the empire does something :/

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