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#1 Oct 17 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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So, recently I bought a G74sx to start pc gaming to go along with my ps3. Here's the model I currently have
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-G74SX-A1-17-3-Inch-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B00542SUD8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318877458&sr=8-2
I've been running the game at about 39-60fps depending on where I am, at medium settings. Love the machine, but the constant screen tearing and the amount of money that went into it to only be able to go at medium-low settings had me frustrated, so I began planning to return it for something with a bit more umph
I've spent the last week looking for an affordable replacement, found msi, but everywhere I look msi is mentioned in passing only. Theres a model out with the gtx 570m, which looked great, but it looked gaudy and no one seems to like the build quality. Ended up inreasing my budget and looking at clevo/sager. Was more than impressed, great hardware, good build and apparently some of them can be upgrade gpu and cpu wise. But the more I think about the cost I begin to pause. That is ALOT of cash for something that might only last 3 years. I do take my asus all over my house to game so I wasn't exactly happy with the idea of a desktop, so I'm a bit torn.

Now, I found something really, REALLY nice it seems, and its a desktop, and while I may not like being relegated to my bedroom, the price made me giddy. here it is:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Black_Pearl

much stronger cpu, gpu, **** everything. This has me rethinking things and feeling rather dumb lol. On top of that, I just noticed vizio is full hd, so I'm good there. I guess this was alot to ask such a simple question but is this pc good for the price? is he build solid? is Cyberpowerpc trustworthy? Thank you all in advance
#2 Oct 17 2011 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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That's gaming laptops and the poor quality of the FFXIV game engine for ya. There isn't really much of a solution outside of "buy a desktop for gaming instead". You just can't pack the processing power of a desktop into the form factor and power constraints of a laptop without performance giving way. Either accept the fact that you cannot max out settings on a laptop even after spending premium dollar or get/build a desktop for less than half the price that still performs better.

As for that PC in particular, you don't need to spend even the base amount of $1255 to do better than the laptop. You could do better on a $800 budget. They only offer 1st gen i7 processors, which is a big downside if you're in the mood and budget to be maxing out performance. Offhand, I'd look at this model instead. I can't find what makes the $1255 PC so much more expensive. Even matching the GPUs in the build category I linked results in a $420 cheaper machine that will perform better.

The only difference I can find is in the RAM - LGA 1156/1366 socket mobos (i7-9xx CPUs) use triple channel RAM, LGA 1155 socket mobos (i7-2xxx CPUs) use dual channel RAM. 4 GB RAM is a good number, you still won't be using more than that in an average multitasking Windows 7 environment for gaming*. Hard to get 4 GB out of 3 slots of RAM though, that's why you see 6 and 12 GB options instead. 6 GB is plenty, 8 GB is overkill, 12 GB is ridiculous overkill and they're just sucking money out of people who don't know any better. Surplus/unused RAM has zero benefit. If you're never using more than 4-6 GB, you're throwing money away upgrading to 8-12 GB.

If you really want the best performance for the cheapest price though, build your own PC. It's so much easier than it seems and there is a ton of help available anyway.





* The people who make use of large volumes of RAM are power users of photo/video editing software. Running filters in Photoshop on massive source files or heavy editing of raw 1080p video will consume a lot of RAM. If you don't explicitly know that you will regularly be utilizing massive quantities of RAM on specific tasks like that, you shouldn't be buying that much RAM. "Oh but I have a personal camcorder and that records 1080p video" still isn't the type of person I'm talking about. If you don't know then you likely don't need. I've never seen a game that required that much RAM to run at top settings.





Edited, Oct 17th 2011 2:46pm by bsphil
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#3 Oct 17 2011 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the very informative post. I'm pretty new to this sort of thing so I appreciate the kind of info your're giving me :). I've only been looking around for about a month or so, already seems ridiculous how overboard one can go. The amount of RAM in this g74 was one of a few points that sold me in the beginning, but it hasn't helped with my 560m. It seems like the 560m is a pretty decent card that can run some games at good settings, but lower fps.
I don't even remember why I was pushing so hard for a laptop, I mean I love my ps3 and I have never once thought about taking it around with me; so why did I with a notebook?
Again thank you for the info, I will definately check that pc building link. is there any difference with warantiesd when you build yourself?
#4 Oct 17 2011 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
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I had issues with an Asus G71g that would have the screen tear as well. It was not because the graphics card could not keep up due to stress but because of the design of the laptop. I was able to fix it by reseeding the video connectors that go into the motherboard.

If it looks somewhat like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMeKTLEFkUk&feature=related
then I did this to fix it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw7NYYLhO6U&feature=related
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Shadowspell wrote:
I had issues with an Asus G71g that would have the screen tear as well. It was not because the graphics card could not keep up due to stress but because of the design of the laptop. I was able to fix it by reseeding the video connectors that go into the motherboard.

If it looks somewhat like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMeKTLEFkUk&feature=related
then I did this to fix it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw7NYYLhO6U&feature=related


That's about white screen flicker? I don't know if that's exactly what's happening with mine but here is a perfect example just to be clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQXppnkj2qY

I've heard of it being a problem with the games fps and the monitor's refresh rate, don't know if that's really the case. I forced v-sync on with 3x buffering and it helped a little, by and large the tearing is either no longer there and not very noticable, but now the ground stutters when I run :/. I could live with that however, its just that if I'm going to drop 2 grand(more or less) I want to run on max settings.
Moving my gaming around is nice, but I'm rethinking its worth. Anyways, is Cyberpower a reliable vendor of pc's? I've been focusing on laptops for so long I don't where to look for desktops and I have a few short days to return the Asus.
#6 Oct 17 2011 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I forced v-sync on with 3x buffering and it helped a little, by and large the tearing is either no longer there and not very noticable, but now the ground stutters when I run :/. I could live with that however, its just that if I'm going to drop 2 grand(more or less) I want to run on max settings.


Seconding what bsphil said basically. A laptop isn't going to run this game(in its current form) at max settings. Desktops worth well over 2 grand would struggle to do that also.

My suggestion is that you put up with what you have if at all possible until 2.0 and hope that SE decides to implement a proper graphics engine and server system. It's hard to go wrong when you spend that much on a PC, but it may not be necessary.
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#7 Oct 17 2011 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I forced v-sync on with 3x buffering and it helped a little, by and large the tearing is either no longer there and not very noticable, but now the ground stutters when I run :/. I could live with that however, its just that if I'm going to drop 2 grand(more or less) I want to run on max settings.


Seconding what bsphil said basically. A laptop isn't going to run this game(in its current form) at max settings. Desktops worth well over 2 grand would struggle to do that also.

My suggestion is that you put up with what you have if at all possible until 2.0 and hope that SE decides to implement a proper graphics engine and server system. It's hard to go wrong when you spend that much on a PC, but it may not be necessary.


This is correct, my $4,000 Desknote(You don't put this thing in your lap, period, nor do you use it without a power source) can't max the game out at 1920x1080. In fact, unlike other games, if I run FFXIV on the laptop's screen, it trips the Power Supply by using too much power. If I turn the internal screen off and use an external it works, but again, not at highest settings, even at 1920x1080.
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#8 Oct 17 2011 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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X_X this whole thing has my head going in circles. at first I wanted a laptop, but now, after realizing I can't upgrade, I think a desktop is the way to go. That's the biggest reason. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to buy them from safely. After looking around a little, I've heard terrible things about Cyberpower and Ibuypower. The other sites I've never heard of. Building it myself seems the best option, but the idea of ordering around 1k in parts and then messing up the build terrifies me.
I know I'm probably frustrating people, and I appreciate the help so far( I have alot to consider x.x), but can I hear some testamonials on pre-built purchases? For every good experience there seems to be a bad one for buying them pre-built, but I'm new to buying pc's, much less building them.
#9 Oct 17 2011 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
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I've never bought cyberpower but looking at bsphil's mega special III, I like the fact that you can see exactly what parts you're getting in the PC. If you get the right parts in it, it doesn't really matter too much who it comes from.

This thing has a 2500k (awesome), Asus MB (great), and even liquidcooling (cool!). The only thing I would personally change is to a Corsair Power Supply.

The reason why some of the places get crappy reviews is because they use crappy parts. If you asked, I bet someone here would go through that PC build and configure it with the best quality parts from the list - that fits your budget.



Edited, Oct 17th 2011 10:05pm by rikkuotaku
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#10 Oct 17 2011 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Ankaku89 wrote:
X_X this whole thing has my head going in circles. at first I wanted a laptop, but now, after realizing I can't upgrade, I think a desktop is the way to go. That's the biggest reason. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to buy them from safely. After looking around a little, I've heard terrible things about Cyberpower and Ibuypower. The other sites I've never heard of. Building it myself seems the best option, but the idea of ordering around 1k in parts and then messing up the build terrifies me.
I know I'm probably frustrating people, and I appreciate the help so far( I have alot to consider x.x), but can I hear some testamonials on pre-built purchases? For every good experience there seems to be a bad one for buying them pre-built, but I'm new to buying pc's, much less building them.


Newegg is king in my honest opinion. Great service, great prices and they ship cheap and fast. They offer a ton of kits that are basically a bundle of parts, but you know with these kits that everything is matched. You don't end up getting the wrong kind of RAM, a motherboard with a different socket type than the CPU or some other mistake that someone new to buying a PC would make.

They're pretty easy to put together if you make sure to read the instructions carefully, work in a static free area(or get a strap) and double check your work.

Check here for a good starter for do it yourself. If you don't want to build then you can find premades here. The second link routes you to PCs considered 'gaming' PCs.


Edited, Oct 17th 2011 10:10pm by FilthMcNasty
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#11 Oct 17 2011 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you guys so much :D you have the patience of saints. I noticed on Cyberpower they wouldn't let you upgrade certain things without upgrading the cooling or power supply, so I hope they would inform you if the parts you were picking out were incompatible. I think I'll look around both for a pre-built, maybe go for a kit to play around with too without investing too much :D, but I feel much better about my options.~
I really appreciate everyone who posted taking the time to reply with such helpful information. :)
#12 Oct 18 2011 at 1:52 AM Rating: Good
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Ankaku89 wrote:
is there any difference with warantiesd when you build yourself?
Basically you get warranties on individual parts rather than the overall system. Not that big of a deal - if something comes up, don't be afraid to look around online for answers. You'll be better off gaining the knowledge in the long run.

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Anyways, is Cyberpower a reliable vendor of pc's?
Yeah, I'd say they're fine. They're one of a few lesser known companies that build good gaming PCs for fair prices (in contrast to Alienware being criminally overpriced junk). iBuyPower is another similar company to Cyberpower. Both offer pretty reasonable prices and cater explicitly to gaming.

Though that begs the question, if you know where to go and what to look for, why not just build a PC yourself? Again, it's not as hard as it looks. It's more like a giant lego set with two dozen pieces. There are a large number of specific video tutorials showcasing each step of the build process. If you can read directions and watch videos, you can figure it out.

Plus, I think it's fun. It's like a mini-Christmas when you get a bunch of boxes in the mail filled with different PC parts.





Edited, Oct 18th 2011 2:55am by bsphil
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#13 Oct 18 2011 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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[quote=bsphil

Though that begs the question, if you know where to go and what to look for, why not just build a PC yourself? Again, it's not as hard as it looks. It's more like a giant lego set with two dozen pieces. There are a large number of specific video tutorials showcasing each step of the build process. If you can read directions and watch videos, you can figure it out.

Plus, I think it's fun. It's like a mini-Christmas when you get a bunch of boxes in the mail filled with different PC parts.
Edited, Oct 18th 2011 2:55am by bsphil [/quote]

That is a very good question. And a very inviting image :P, I just don't feel compitent enough to make my own yet. X_x I probably could manage it, but the idea of messing up something expensive, even if I could send it back, makes me crave comfort food lol.
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Oh my lady, I didn't see the Black Pearl LINK! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyyJ2EbZvaY. One thing you must know if you are taken into the land of surround sound Desktop PC, is that you must also purchase an air compressor http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/IS/Category.aspx-am_en-12769

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I think you must be confused, he was asking for actual computer help, not for a religious conversion.

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#19 Oct 18 2011 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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wht do you guys think of this pc?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227351

expensive, but it is within my budget. <.<;; I know if I do go pre-built that I should not aim that high, but hypotheticaly, is this thing worth it? can the disk drive be upgraded at a later date?
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IMO that IbuyPower PC is excessive, for a pre-built and what it is the price is decent... but you could build something MUCH better for less.

If you're playing XIV ok as is with the laptop, lower your settings and live with it a few more months. Kepler comes out next year (next Nvidia GPU offering) which should bump AMD into their next offering and at the very least lower prices on EVERYTHING (except the cool new stuff). If you can't bring yourself to turning down options in the game AND you have the money to throw away, this PC will do it for you... but honestly I'd rather have a 580 or dual 570's or a high tier AMD GPU and 6gb ram instead of 12. If you don't know how to build a PC, you likely don't need more than 4-6gb ram.
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#21 Oct 18 2011 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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IMO that IbuyPower PC is excessive, for a pre-built and what it is the price is decent... but you could build something MUCH better for less.

If you're playing XIV ok as is with the laptop, lower your settings and live with it a few more months. Kepler comes out next year (next Nvidia GPU offering) which should bump AMD into their next offering and at the very least lower prices on EVERYTHING (except the cool new stuff). If you can't bring yourself to turning down options in the game AND you have the money to throw away, this PC will do it for you... but honestly I'd rather have a 580 or dual 570's or a high tier AMD GPU and 6gb ram instead of 12. If you don't know how to build a PC, you likely don't need more than 4-6gb ram.


Thank you for your opinion. I agree, it does seem excessive. As I understand it, modern games are far more gpu than cpu based(?), so I assume it wouldn't have that much of a difference on gameplay for any game at this point. I do like the gpu though :o.
Some folks over at the cyberpower forums configured a build that is pretty solid, for a good bit less; about 1500. It has the 560-Ti and a i5 2500k for the cpu. The mobo is a Gigabyte, was told they work just as well as the asus mobo, and for less. Can anyone attest to this?
#22 Oct 18 2011 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Ankaku89 wrote:
As I understand it, modern games are far more gpu than cpu based(?), so I assume it wouldn't have that much of a difference on gameplay for any game at this point. I do like the gpu though :o.
Some folks over at the cyberpower forums configured a build that is pretty solid, for a good bit less; about 1500. It has the 560-Ti and a i5 2500k for the cpu. The mobo is a Gigabyte, was told they work just as well as the asus mobo, and for less. Can anyone attest to this?


FWIW XIV is more CPU based than GPU based. Starcraft II is the same way. It really just depends on the game. You also need to overclock a processor if you want to squeeze the most out of your GPU. The 460 demands ~3.6GHz which is higher than the base clock speed of almost everything these days. I think only the AMD 980 is higher than that @ 3.7 base.

Anything more than 4GB of RAM is excessive unless you're doing rendering or editing.

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#23 Oct 18 2011 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
As far as motherboards go, look at the warranty and read the reviews. The best motherboards are, ASUS and EVGA for warranty, but even some of their boards can be considered junk. When talking components for computers, you really do get what you pay for. A very good board will be in the 200-300 USD range, whereas common boards are in the $100-200 USD range, and under $100....junk (for the most part)...(Base prices, not including sales or last year's model).

The same is true for processors, PSU's and Memory. Some boards, like mine, requires that it have 3 slots versus the typical 2 for memory, and therefore I have 12gb, (tri channel x 2 @2gb/module=12gb). Also, it is higher end memory allowing for oc.

With processors, AMD is cheaper than INTEL for a reason, and that is that INTEL is the leader atm, however, it comes at a cost. Ghz =/= Ghz when comparing AMD vs INTEL (look at the reviews before you bomb this comment, a 3.2Ghz Intel processer will outperform a 3.6Ghz AMD in MOST situations, not all)

PSU, the same thing. Cheaper is not better.

However, most expensive is not better either. The best thing to do is to determine need vs budget, then determine want and bragging rights. (Do I need to run the game at MAX settings, or am I happy with High settings).

Also, I just need to add a comment about memory. 4ghz with a 64bit system is a minimum nowadays, and 6-8ghz will give you some head room. I am not fully up on my research, however, as time goes by, more and more programs will utilize the higher system memory. A 32 bit system maxes out at 3.2 Ghz memory, so no use for the larger amounts. Also, since FFXIV is a 32bit program, you are right that it does not utilize over 4Ghz of memory, but by having more, the OS can use some, AV other, and FFXIV is still able to use it's share, per se, although there are articles out there that say this is untrue. Like I said, my 2 cents, but it is best to do your own research.
To me, this is the best way to determine the right PC for you.

Edited, Oct 19th 2011 12:07am by River75
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#24 Oct 19 2011 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Ankaku89 wrote:
wht do you guys think of this pc?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227351

expensive, but it is within my budget. <.<;; I know if I do go pre-built that I should not aim that high, but hypotheticaly, is this thing worth it? can the disk drive be upgraded at a later date?
Waste of money.

i7-980x is a ~$1000 processor alone. An i7-2600k offers comparable computing power for $330. You can do so much better for so much less money.

Important: Stop thinking you need to spend over $1000 to have an amazing gaming PC. You seem to have more money than knowledge, despite the many recommendations in this thread. I'm tempted to just say do whatever you want. You seem so set on throwing away $2000. ****, send me $1500 and I'll build and ship you a PC stronger than a pre-built you'd find for $2000.

FilthMcNasty wrote:
FWIW XIV is more CPU based than GPU based.
More CPU based than other games? Sure. Don't fool yourself into thinking the CPU is more important than the GPU though, that's absolutely not the case.



Edited, Oct 19th 2011 12:37pm by bsphil
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#25 Oct 19 2011 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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I've spent the last week looking for an affordable replacement, found msi, but everywhere I look msi is mentioned in passing only.


I realize the conversation has progressed past this, but I just wanted to mention that the MSI 460gtx's are absolutely breathtaking, both in value and performance.

You're past those, looking at the 570's so it's a moot point anyway, but if you happen across the MSI 460gtx Cyclones at a good price they're worth picking up. The 1GB version wanes in and out of stock at NewEgg for ~$180, and it is worth it at that price, but if you can get them for around $140 or $150 they are the most bang for your buck you can get, especially SLI'd.
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#26 Oct 19 2011 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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bsphil wrote:
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FWIW XIV is more CPU based than GPU based.
More CPU based than other games? Sure. Don't fool yourself into thinking the CPU is more important than the GPU though, that's absolutely not the case.


Read the whole post. I go on to say that in order to get the most from your GPU, you need a CPU(or at least an overclock) strong enough to support it.


Edited, Oct 19th 2011 8:35pm by FilthMcNasty
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#27 Oct 19 2011 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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bsphil wrote:
Ankaku89 wrote:
wht do you guys think of this pc?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227351

expensive, but it is within my budget. <.<;; I know if I do go pre-built that I should not aim that high, but hypotheticaly, is this thing worth it? can the disk drive be upgraded at a later date?
Waste of money.

i7-980x is a ~$1000 processor alone. An i7-2600k offers comparable computing power for $330. You can do so much better for so much less money.

Important: Stop thinking you need to spend over $1000 to have an amazing gaming PC. You seem to have more money than knowledge, despite the many recommendations in this thread. I'm tempted to just say do whatever you want. You seem so set on throwing away $2000. ****, send me $1500 and I'll build and ship you a PC stronger than a pre-built you'd find for $2000.

FilthMcNasty wrote:
FWIW XIV is more CPU based than GPU based.
More CPU based than other games? Sure. Don't fool yourself into thinking the CPU is more important than the GPU though, that's absolutely not the case.



Edited, Oct 19th 2011 12:37pm by bsphil


Sorry, I know I can frustrate peeps on occasion. x.x I'm new to this and there is a -ton- of information out there and I'm trying to make sence of it and drop bad habits at the same time. <.< and of course I have more money than knowledge, if had $5 I'd have more money than knowlodge on this topic lol.
If you read my earlier post through though, you may have noticed that I had moved on to the 2500k(heard great things about it), and a 560 Ti at most for graphics card. I had no intention of buying that pc, although mentioning the budget could have been misleading. Just wanted to see if the price tag was worth it considering where the cpu+g card ranked.
Also, the basic gameplan -is- to get a premade to avoid as much stress as possible, and after upgrading individual parts as time goes on to build my own. Probably pick up a cheaper kit to practice if I can.
Sorry for all the text, but it seemed you think I'm ignoring all the advice that's been given so far, when I appreciate it all very much. I'm in no hurry to drop 2grand for a few parts of the whole so close to a new year.

Edited, Oct 20th 2011 1:24am by Ankaku89
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Ankaku89 wrote:
and of course I have more money than knowledge, if had $5 I'd have more money than knowlodge on this topic lol.
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If you read my earlier post through though, you may have noticed that I had moved on to the 2500k(heard great things about it), and a 560 Ti at most for graphics card. I had no intention of buying that pc, although mentioning the budget could have been misleading. Just wanted to see if the price tag was worth it considering where the cpu+g card ranked.
Also, the basic gameplan -is- to get a premade to avoid as much stress as possible, and after upgrading individual parts as time goes on to build my own. Probably pick up a cheaper kit to practice if I can.
Sorry for all the text, but it seemed you think I'm ignoring all the advice that's been given so far, when I appreciate it all very much. I'm in no hurry to drop 2grand for a few parts of the whole so close to a new year.
Ahh, that makes sense now. Just making sure you're getting the best bang for your buck. An i5-2500k and 560 Ti would do very well together for a reasonable price.
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#29 Oct 20 2011 at 4:29 PM Rating: Default
Not sure if it's a good idea to dump a lot of money on a new rig.

I made the mistake of doing so and I'm still paying for it.

With my rig set up as is, I can only run this game while 1 or 2 options on highest, with rest on High or Standard.

If I set everything on Highest the game crashes immediately lol.

I dumped $2k+ on the new rig, I don't think anyone else would want to see the same result with that kind of money spent.
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#30 Oct 24 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, in the past few days since these posts, I've decided to build my own. ^_^ super excited about it! I was at an online shop and noticed even skimping on parts wouldn't save me much because the base price was so high. :P The alure of building the exact same model for 1,000 less or more was too great, plus it sounds fun as **** xD~
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