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#1 Oct 19 2011 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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i was wondering if its worth to start lvling some "jobs/classes" before that 2.0 release next year, i wanna play on Playsi3, and i think next year they release 7+ jobs, are my jobs then deleted which i lvld? and can i play this account on my PS3 or do i need anyways a new one?
#2 Oct 19 2011 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Oct 19 2011 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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hm? i dont get this
#4 Oct 19 2011 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
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It's a bit of a dumb question. Jobs are specialisations of classes and they are introducing more classes in the next year so playing now means you'll have the advantage of pre leveled classes/jobs when v2 is launched. Why would you play the game over the next year if SE were going to reset everything and delete all the effort you had put into your character before the relaunch?
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#5 Oct 19 2011 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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thats what i was asking ^^ i didnt knew that SE is going to delete everything when v2 is going to get live, i thought my character will stay on this lvl/equip/etc. so why put effort in it now... ;\
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Just to be clear SE will not be deleting anything, it's been stated a few times now - the only thing they would like to get rid of it the older equipment from the old recipes (the stuff that now has 'dated' in front of it). That is not to say you have to dump it as it will still be useable but Yoshi P has hinted that the preferred option would be to turn the old gear into Materia when possible.
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#7 Oct 19 2011 at 4:09 PM Rating: Decent
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ah okay, well i dont mind about gear and stuff, i just wanna lvl now for an advantage kinda, so i would have an "naked" high lvl job, thats what i am asking. so when i start to lvl50ish now, my lvl will stay in v2, cool^^
#8 Oct 19 2011 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
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All your character information, level, items, gil, EVERYTHING is saved. EVEN BETTER NEWS, you can REMAKE your character but save all your character information so you can later on become a Hume or Mithra or Manthra of your pleasing with new hairstyles, etc.
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Might as well call it Manthra XIV now cause everyone is gonna be one.
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#11 Oct 19 2011 at 10:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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SolomonGrundy wrote:
It's a bit of a dumb question. Jobs are specialisations of classes and they are introducing more classes in the next year so playing now means you'll have the advantage of pre leveled classes/jobs when v2 is launched. Why would you play the game over the next year if SE were going to reset everything and delete all the effort you had put into your character before the relaunch?


No need to be a douchebag about it. He didn't know and was asking an honest question.
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#12 Oct 19 2011 at 11:55 PM Rating: Default
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I know SE said you'd keep your character progress, but I bet they do something evil like wipe everyone's gil to zero.
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#13 Oct 19 2011 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
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Nope, your jobs are not deleted. Yoshi-P guaranteed everything will be transferred over to 2.0. This is a fully functional crossplatform game you can use your account on PS3. I say if you want to experience the 7th umbral storyline you should definitely play. You may have a slight advantage on your hands (in terms of mechanics, economy, and friends)if the game becomes popular after/before 2.0(which I think it will)
#14 Oct 20 2011 at 1:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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BartelX wrote:
SolomonGrundy wrote:
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SolomonGrundy wrote:
It's a bit of a dumb question. Jobs are specialisations of classes and they are introducing more classes in the next year so playing now means you'll have the advantage of pre leveled classes/jobs when v2 is launched. Why would you play the game over the next year if SE were going to reset everything and delete all the effort you had put into your character before the relaunch?


No need to be a douchebag about it. He didn't know and was asking an honest question.


Agreed, I was just in a f**king bad mood last night. No excuses.
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#15 Oct 20 2011 at 5:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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okay guys, i got that, cross-play and everything will be safed + i can change my character when 2.0 is going to get release. cool ;)

thanks for you answeres! ;)
#16 Oct 20 2011 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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2.0 looks like it's not going to be a new "launch" date. The major changes are being gradually released over the next year so that by the end of 2012, all of the 2.0 changes will be in.
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#17 Oct 20 2011 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
2.0 looks like it's not going to be a new "launch" date. The major changes are being gradually released over the next year so that by the end of 2012, all of the 2.0 changes will be in.


Maybe, but the big ones being the removal of old zones for new ones, new graphics engine and new servers are coming at the end when it will be considered 2.0.
#18 Oct 20 2011 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Dammit..you're all sucking me back in. Smiley: frownSmiley: lol
There's a shelf on the wall above my desk which contains the FFXIV CE. I stare at it every day. I use the stupid blank journal too.

I played WoW after FFXI, and I always said I'd play it til the next FF came along. heh... The alpha/beta and 3 weeks of the release cured me of that.
I've now been playing Rift, which I like, but it's just a little too much like WoW for me to consider spending years in it.
My resistance is futile, methinks.



Edited, Oct 20th 2011 4:48pm by Vorkosigan
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#19 Oct 20 2011 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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Dammit..you're all sucking me back in. Smiley: frownSmiley: lol
There's a shelf on the wall above my desk which contains the FFXIV CE. I stare at it every day. I use the stupid blank journal too.

I played WoW after FFXI, and I always said I'd play it til the next FF came along. heh... The alpha/beta and 3 weeks of the release cured me of that.
I've now been playing Rift, which I like, but it's just a little too much like WoW for me to consider spending years in it.
My resistance is futile, methinks.



Edited, Oct 20th 2011 4:48pm by Vorkosigan


Come play with us! My sister hated FFXIV right after release and since 1.19 she cannot stop playing and even texts me to come play with her if I don't already happen to be on.
#20 Oct 20 2011 at 5:27 PM Rating: Good
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Vorkosigan wrote:
Dammit..you're all sucking me back in. Smiley: frownSmiley: lol
There's a shelf on the wall above my desk which contains the FFXIV CE. I stare at it every day. I use the stupid blank journal too.

I played WoW after FFXI, and I always said I'd play it til the next FF came along. heh... The alpha/beta and 3 weeks of the release cured me of that.
I've now been playing Rift, which I like, but it's just a little too much like WoW for me to consider spending years in it.
My resistance is futile, methinks.



Edited, Oct 20th 2011 4:48pm by Vorkosigan


Come play with us! My sister hated FFXIV right after release and since 1.19 she cannot stop playing and even texts me to come play with her if I don't already happen to be on.


I didn't quite HATE it myself at launch, but I got really bored with it fast... and now I too feel that it is a game I can enjoy and I log in daily.
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#21 Oct 21 2011 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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well its boring though, i have everyday like 65 leves, i do 10 a day, and its all the same, but i just wanna lvl for an advantage.. ;)
#22 Oct 21 2011 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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well its boring though, i have everyday like 65 leves, i do 10 a day, and its all the same, but i just wanna lvl for an advantage.. ;)


Anyone is going to hate a game if you are simply playing so you'll be "ahead".

I personally was one who was super excited for the game, but quickly grew to hate it after what was presented at launch. I came back after 1.18 and before 1.19 just to mess around as there wasn't really anything else I wanted to play. I have found the game enjoyable and to be worth my time (and eventually my monthly subscription). I'm more excited to part of all the changes going on than I would be just to jump in head first into 2.0.
#23 Oct 21 2011 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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well its boring though, i have everyday like 65 leves, i do 10 a day, and its all the same, but i just wanna lvl for an advantage.. ;)


why not try out some of the other conten to level? Shposhae is one of the most fun dungeons I've played in ANY game in recent memory. Toto-Rak is pretty cool too. The Ifrit fight at 25 is freakin sweet. Join some parties and go raid some beastman camps. Do some caravan quests. Do some sidequests. Theres lots of other stuff to do besides just grinding leves.
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#24 Oct 21 2011 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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well its boring though, i have everyday like 65 leves, i do 10 a day, and its all the same, but i just wanna lvl for an advantage.. ;)


why not try out some of the other conten to level? Shposhae is one of the most fun dungeons I've played in ANY game in recent memory. Toto-Rak is pretty cool too. The Ifrit fight at 25 is freakin sweet. Join some parties and go raid some beastman camps. Do some caravan quests. Do some sidequests. Theres lots of other stuff to do besides just grinding leves.


I can't speak for the person you quoted, but I know from personal experience that I'd love to do those things - in fact I log in every night hoping to do so - but nobody responds to requests, shouts, the current party search tool or any method to group up outside their linkshell. I've tried every night since 1.19 with no luck.

In fact it's incredibly frustrating and often leads to logging out in boredom after just a few leves. The lack of a decent PC search and flag system is really taking a lot of the fun out of this game for those of us without a strong social circle or linkshell. 1.20 can't get here soon enough.



Edited, Oct 21st 2011 12:49pm by Whales
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#25 Oct 21 2011 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Very true, and I completely agree with you. I was simply pointing out that there IS stuff to do. Although I will say I've had somewhat more success than you in getting groups for that kind of stuff.
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#26 Oct 25 2011 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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is it true, that you CANT lvl the new 7 jobs via XP parties only with leves?
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is it true, that you CANT lvl the new 7 jobs via XP parties only with leves?


No, it's not true. In fact they're specifically designed for party play. XD
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#28 Oct 25 2011 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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No, you don't "level" jobs with XP. Basically you do Job Quests (notice the plural) to get more abilities and stuff. Job level is class level.
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#29 Oct 26 2011 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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oh, okay.. i was hoping they do it FFXI style :) meh, okay
#30 Oct 26 2011 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally I hope they will delete all players at 2.0 release, or at least make new servers to start on a fresh world.

I think the PS3 people joing (me) should have an equal opporunity in the game when starting out.

Edited, Oct 26th 2011 6:54pm by insanekangaroo
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#31 Oct 26 2011 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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insanekangaroo wrote:
Personally I hope they will delete all players at 2.0 release, or at least make new servers to start on a fresh world.


Yeah, you keep on hoping that...
#32 Oct 26 2011 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally I hope they will delete all players at 2.0 release, or at least make new servers to start on a fresh world.


Yeah, you keep on hoping that...


Yes I will keep on hoping.

But don't you see a problem in that a totally altered and in many ways new game (2.0) starts out with 100s of players already at max lvl?
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#33 Oct 26 2011 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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insanekangaroo wrote:

Yes I will keep on hoping.

But don't you see a problem in that a totally altered and in many ways new game (2.0) starts out with 100s of players already at max lvl?


First of all, it is not a "new" game. It will be very different, but Yoshi has clearly stated that it will not be a new game, it will still be Final Fantasy XIV. Second, if a developer erased 2 years of player data because they changed the course of the game's future, not only would I never play that MMO again, I would probably never buy another product from the company again.

But, they aren't going to erase character data. If you approach MMOs as a race and can't handle the fact that there will be people higher level than you, don't play this game (or pretty much any MMO unless you can devote 24/7 to the game).

Edited, Oct 26th 2011 4:17pm by Vawn43
#34 Oct 26 2011 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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insanekangaroo wrote:
Personally I hope they will delete all players at 2.0 release, or at least make new servers to start on a fresh world.

I think the PS3 people joing (me) should have an equal opporunity in the game when starting out.

Edited, Oct 26th 2011 6:54pm by insanekangaroo


There will be new, fresh servers that are unable to be transferred to at the beginning for players who wish to approach the game with a fresh start. It's actually listed in the 2.0 outline.

Those who have their characters currently leveled, will be able to keep them in their entirety, AND will have an opportunity to change face/hair style (possibly race and gender too, the official boards are discussing the prospect now.)

So both sides get a win/win out of it.

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But don't you see a problem in that a totally altered and in many ways new game (2.0) starts out with 100s of players already at max lvl?


FFXI started that way, and worse, it was divided among nationality lines. Japan got a full year ahead of North American players, and American Players got in a good deal before European as well.

It didn't kill the game, even if there was problems on the onset, but there were problems.

I understand the worries of an already established economy (Monopolization of Popped NMs, cornering of the crafting markets, etc.) But really, FFXIV is very different at its base levels that make those sort of problems far more muted. And if you're still not convinced, you HAVE that other option of choosing a fresh server.

Wishing that someone's progress of 2 years be deleted just because they're expecting a new influx of players after the overhaul isn't fair to those who've been sticking it out, and is pretty inflammatory even if not intended as such. I'm sure the developers kept both perspectives in mind though when choosing to open up new servers with the 2.0 patch.

Edited, Oct 26th 2011 4:29pm by Hyrist
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