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#1 Nov 28 2011 at 7:50 PM Rating: Default
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I try most games these days before I buy them, been getting a lot of disappointing games recently, most newer games don't live up to my standards so if anyone has a buddy pass they could pm me I would very much appreciate it
#2 Nov 28 2011 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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Good luck with that. Buddy passes only came with the collector's edition from over a year ago. Anyone still saving theirs is probably not going to hand it out to someone who just registered an account to beg for a handout.
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#3 Nov 29 2011 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I wonder how much money you could make if you just trolled video game forums all day asking for buddy passes you could sell on eBay.

In a country like the USA, I doubt it'd be worth it, but somewhere where the average wage is under a dollar an hour? You'd probably do quite well.
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I try most games these days before I buy them, been getting a lot of disappointing games recently, most newer games don't live up to my standards so if anyone has a buddy pass they could pm me I would very much appreciate it


Joke post right?
#5 Nov 29 2011 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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I still have my BP from my C's Edition. And i have little to no plan of giving it away, unless my gf whats to join XIV in the future. Odds are few people still have there passes around and none will give it out to the first random Joe that walks in.
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Which makes me wonder if SE is really 'with the times' regarding getting their product into the hands of prospective buyers...

I mean, just judging from the hostility in this thread (whether it is intentional or not, is irrelevant) it makes the game seem like it's 'special club invite onry' rather than a product a company really wants to showcase to get butts in the seats. It doesn't reflect well on SE as a company or us as a community.

A ten day trial (and, incidentally, a digital download ffs) is really in order for XIV if they are serious about long term success, and I hope that folks are suggesting this to SE.
#7 Nov 29 2011 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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There are buddy passes in our collector's editions?

*digs out collector's edition box and contents to verify

Well would you look at that.
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#8 Nov 29 2011 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Which makes me wonder if SE is really 'with the times' regarding getting their product into the hands of prospective buyers...

I mean, just judging from the hostility in this thread (whether it is intentional or not, is irrelevant) it makes the game seem like it's 'special club invite onry' rather than a product a company really wants to showcase to get butts in the seats. It doesn't reflect well on SE as a company or us as a community.

A ten day trial (and, incidentally, a digital download ffs) is really in order for XIV if they are serious about long term success, and I hope that folks are suggesting this to SE.

It's simply a terrible system for showcasing an MMO, and hostility directed towards askers is a product of 1. not following forum rules (there are thousands of threads about this, and threads created just for people asking for buddy passes), 2. bad experiences with certain individuals begging for passes in the past (not naming names), and 3. the absurdity of people with extremely low posting counts thinking someone is going to just give them something that can be sold on eBay for nearly the price of the full game. If someone takes the time to make friends in the community, and then asks for a buddy pass, sure, that's probably the whole point. But, as stupid as a "buddy pass" is, the "buddy" implies friend, and someone who just joined up up five minutes ago ain't no one's friend here.

Here's what SE can do--TRIAL ACCOUNTS. Every other bloody MMO on the planet uses them.
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Here's what SE can do--TRIAL ACCOUNTS. Every other bloody MMO on the planet uses them.


No thanks, If one wants to play pay for a copy, register using the codes, and have at it. Trial accounts only open a can of worms, as well limit every one with in the trial window to protect vs. rmt. Trial in XIV would be 1-20 lets say, as is it's a **** without a pl. Now imagine SE making it x10 worse with restraints so it can't be abused!! It's to much head ache to deal with. If one can't spare 15$ to try a game, plenty of f2p games out there.
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#10 Nov 29 2011 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
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Torrence wrote:
Which makes me wonder if SE is really 'with the times' regarding getting their product into the hands of prospective buyers...

I mean, just judging from the hostility in this thread (whether it is intentional or not, is irrelevant) it makes the game seem like it's 'special club invite onry' rather than a product a company really wants to showcase to get butts in the seats. It doesn't reflect well on SE as a company or us as a community.

A ten day trial (and, incidentally, a digital download ffs) is really in order for XIV if they are serious about long term success, and I hope that folks are suggesting this to SE.

It's simply a terrible system for showcasing an MMO, and hostility directed towards askers is a product of 1. not following forum rules (there are thousands of threads about this, and threads created just for people asking for buddy passes), 2. bad experiences with certain individuals begging for passes in the past (not naming names), and 3. the absurdity of people with extremely low posting counts thinking someone is going to just give them something that can be sold on eBay for nearly the price of the full game. If someone takes the time to make friends in the community, and then asks for a buddy pass, sure, that's probably the whole point. But, as stupid as a "buddy pass" is, the "buddy" implies friend, and someone who just joined up up five minutes ago ain't no one's friend here.

Here's what SE can do--TRIAL ACCOUNTS. Every other bloody MMO on the planet uses them.


O.K. in answer to the hostility prevalent in this thread.
My post in no way was an attempt to troll.
I played final fantasy games all my life, the only one I haven't tried is XIV my opinion on final fantasy games I've played is they are all good up to 11. 11 was a failed attempt at an mmo twelve and 13 though not mmo's still sucked balls.
Of course their are exceptions mystic quest was good but watered down ten had horrible voice acting etc.
I rely on my on testing rather than reviews and am not going to be paying for a game from a company that has shown me nothing but **** with their latest releases.(at least till I can see that my money will be well spent in buying said game from company going downhill.)
and in reply to your #s
1. Yes I am a new member and a in a quick search I did not see any threads appropriately titled to lead me to believe this is where you ask for buddy passes.
2.It was just a question I have no intention of begging so try saying no instead of going into attack mode which just proves how immature most of the responders to this thread are.
and 3. Yes your third point does make sense the only reason I asked here anyway was the game I found told me that people on zam were more than helpful when it comes to buddy passes apparently this was in error I will have to make a note of it on the site I got the game from .
#11 Nov 29 2011 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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No thanks, If one wants to play pay for a copy, register using the codes, and have at it. Trial accounts only open a can of worms, as well limit every one with in the trial window to protect vs. rmt. Trial in XIV would be 1-20 lets say, as is it's a sh*t without a pl. Now imagine SE making it x10 worse with restraints so it can't be abused!! It's to much head ache to deal with. If one can't spare 15$ to try a game, plenty of f2p games out there.


Don't be ridiculous. Trial accounts allow people to try out mmos, and they work just fine in every other game.

It could have something to do with SE's games being "cross-platform" and it being hard to do on playstation hardware (which I could understand), but right now the Playstation 3 version is still little more than a "promise". Some of us have been around long enough to know better than to put much faith in a Square Enix promises. For all intents and purposes this is a PC game, and there is no (reasonable) argument against the game having a free trial.

RMT is a **** poor argument on the best of days, and I can't believe you pulled that card. Really, RMT is the least of SE's issues right now.

EDIT: And OP, I was on your side up until this little gem:
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I played final fantasy games all my life, the only one I haven't tried is XIV my opinion on final fantasy games I've played is they are all good up to 11. 11 was a failed attempt at an mmo twelve and 13 though not mmo's still sucked balls.


11 was a blockbuster compared to this game... I didn't like 12 and 13 was too linear, but if the later titles didn't appeal to you what on earth makes you think you will like this one, which is largely a cross section of the three?

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I played final fantasy games all my life, the only one I haven't tried is XIV my opinion on final fantasy games I've played is they are all good up to 11. 11 was a failed attempt at an mmo twelve and 13 though not mmo's still sucked balls.


If you hated 11 (which in my honest opinion was one of the greatest mmo's) why would you want to waist some one's buddy bass to try XIV for a few hours? And i guaranty you will not stay more then that. Skip Starbucks for 3 days there's your 15$, buy the game and give it a try it will be f2p until (guessing here) week or 2 after 1.20 is out. If you get it today you'll be able to test it for 15$ until (guessing here) last week of December.
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#13 Nov 29 2011 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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Here's what SE can do--TRIAL ACCOUNTS. Every other bloody MMO on the planet uses them.


There will be once 2.0 is out. Unfortunately I believe they are right that they are purposely withholding trial/digital purchase at the moment, unless they want even more bad publicity. Remember, RO2 is still in CBT for years now for a reason.
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No, no, no. XI is good for what it was. XIV is the one that's a failed attempt at an MMO. Do I want/expect it to improve in the future? Absolutely. But if you think XI is a failure, do not even try XIV.
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#15 Nov 30 2011 at 1:59 AM Rating: Default
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thank you for the honest replies about the game I guess I won't be trying this one then and in response to why I wanted to in the first place is I know very little about XIV and keep hoping SquareEnix will release a game of quality like they both had before the merger.
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lisaspuppy wrote:
thank you for the honest replies about the game I guess I won't be trying this one then and in response to why I wanted to in the first place is I know very little about XIV and keep hoping SquareEnix will release a game of quality like they both had before the merger.


I hate to say it, but I've pretty much lost hope in this. Don't get me wrong, I'll continue to purchase the games b/c they are still fun to play, but I don't think they'll ever get the same quality like they did before they merged with enix. I think this mainly because the talent behind those quality games moved on and are no longer a part of Square. This is of course not including the grandmaster of awesomeness, Nobuo Uematsu. Personally, I consider him to be one of the be composers of all time. He did form his own company, but even so, he still does work for Square-Enix. They should consider themselves lucky.
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11 was a failed attempt at an mmo twelve and 13 though not mmo's still sucked balls....ten had horrible voice acting... [SE is a] game from company going downhill...

Smiley: dubious
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#18 Dec 02 2011 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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3. the absurdity of people with extremely low posting counts thinking someone is going to just give them something that can be sold on eBay for nearly the price of the full game.

The full price of the game is only $10 right now. I think it's kind of interesting that this makes it both more and less ridiculous to ask for a free copy of the game.
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Well, since all of those games did quite well (and 13 broke records, and is getting a sequel as a result), I'm thinking that your opinion of those games is less important to SE than the pile of money they are making.
#19 Dec 02 2011 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Trial accounts would ruin the game's economy, which isn't that healthy to begin with. The most profitable part of leveling is 1-10. In a day leveling 3 jobs on my mule from 1-10, i made over a million gil on crystals and lamb hide. All jobs on my main and mule are at least 10 because I needed the gil.

Now imagine there's free trials. I'd start a new account every weekend and level every job from 1-10 over the course of 3 hours and make 2-3mil gil, then delete and repeat. And I'm not a gil seller, that's just to fund my cooking grind and the high end gear for my main jobs, as well as gear for other jobs. You would instantly make it so insanely easy for gil sellers to make a fortune. I have 4 CE's, if it came down to it I'd use my own buddy passes so I could make gil.
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Trial accounts would ruin the game's economy, which isn't that healthy to begin with. The most profitable part of leveling is 1-10. In a day leveling 3 jobs on my mule from 1-10, i made over a million gil on crystals and lamb hide. All jobs on my main and mule are at least 10 because I needed the gil.

Now imagine there's free trials. I'd start a new account every weekend and level every job from 1-10 over the course of 3 hours and make 2-3mil gil, then delete and repeat. And I'm not a gil seller, that's just to fund my cooking grind and the high end gear for my main jobs, as well as gear for other jobs. You would instantly make it so insanely easy for gil sellers to make a fortune. I have 4 CE's, if it came down to it I'd use my own buddy passes so I could make gil.

Simple--don't let trial accounts trade gil or use the retainers. In fact, don't let them trade with other players at all.

Trial accounts are for getting a feel of the basic game mechanics, graphics, and story. They don't need to engage in trade.

WoW already took care of this.
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free trial accounts usually don't start showing up until the population begins to decline a bit, and they're attempting to pickup some on the fence players. I can't think of one that's ever given away free trials at release, and certainly not during the not quite beta but definitely not final product stage we're in right now.

If you really want to play, order 2 less beers, brown bag lunch or otherwise find the $10 to buy it, I'm sure its available cheap all holiday season.
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#22 Dec 04 2011 at 12:46 AM Rating: Good
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I just wish they would offer a trial so I can see how well my system will run it, I mean it ran the benchmark well enough, plus I want to see if it is worth the SE credit card verification process BS
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free trial accounts usually don't start showing up until the population begins to decline a bit, and they're attempting to pickup some on the fence players. I can't think of one that's ever given away free trials at release, and certainly not during the not quite beta but definitely not final product stage we're in right now.

If you really want to play, order 2 less beers, brown bag lunch or otherwise find the $10 to buy it, I'm sure its available cheap all holiday season.


Free trial accounts have been in wow for 3+years dint know blizzard was bleeding subs all this time.
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free trial accounts usually don't start showing up until the population begins to decline a bit, and they're attempting to pickup some on the fence players. I can't think of one that's ever given away free trials at release, and certainly not during the not quite beta but definitely not final product stage we're in right now.

If you really want to play, order 2 less beers, brown bag lunch or otherwise find the $10 to buy it, I'm sure its available cheap all holiday season.


Free trial accounts have been in wow for 3+years dint know blizzard was bleeding subs all this time.


Kuja if they released a trial when numbers started declining, XIV would have had a trial last November...

Free trials go out when you want to introduce people to your game, not when they're leaving. The obvious reason that there is no free trial for XIV is because the game is in no shape to entice people to stick around.


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Good luck with that. Buddy passes only came with the collector's edition from over a year ago. Anyone still saving theirs is probably not going to hand it out to someone who just registered an account to beg for a handout.


FWIW Amazon is still selling CE, I think it's 20 bucks.
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