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#1 Dec 05 2011 at 11:38 PM Rating: Good
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http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/fees1112jklasdwryopemeopw.html

The fees displayed depends on the region, so I got the EU prices. I suppose the US prices are the same.

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We ask all customers to carefully read the information outlined below regarding fees, discounts, and procedures in preparation for the commencement of billing for FINAL FANTASY XIV.

Fees
Subscription-based billing will commence for FINAL FANTASY XIV on January 6, 2012.
However, as a token of our appreciation to our valued customers, we will be offering a special discounted rate until the release of FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0.


* The above price includes both the 30 day basic service fee plus one character.


Previously Announced
Fee Type Service Period Price per 30 days
Basic Service Fee 30 days £6.89 / 9.99 €
90 days £18.87 / 26.97 €
180 days £34.14 / 47.94 €
Character Fee 30 days £2.10 / 3.00 €


Discounted Rates effective until FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0

Fee Type Service Period Price per 30 days
Basic Service Fee 30 days £4.79 / 6.99 €
90 days £12.57 / 17.97 €
180 days £21.54 / 29.94 €
Character Fee 30 days £2.10 / 3.00 €

* Customers are required to pay a basic service fee and fees for each character in order to play FINAL FANTASY XIV.
* The price for one character is £2.10 / 3.00 €. An additional charge of £2.10 / 3.00 € will apply per extra character.


Retainers
As before, and until the release of Version 2.0,
players will be entitled to employ two Retainers at no charge.

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/players/images/en/default/topics/img301GB.png?_v=7pi

We will temporarily be suspending all FINAL FANTASY XIV service accounts on January 5, 2012. If you agree to the terms and conditions of subscription-based billing, we ask that you set up your billing options via the Square Enix Account Management System.

Please click the button directly below for details and instructions on setting up your billing options.
Click here to read the details of the procedure.

* Instructions on setting up your billing options will be available upon launching the game client starting December 16, 2011.

FFXI and FFXIV Dual-subscriber Discounts
Customers subscribed to both FINAL FANTASY XI and FINAL FANTASY XIV are eligible to receive a special discount on the monthly subscription of the former.
Please click on the button below for further details about this offer.

* Please note that your subscriptions to both games must belong to the same Square Enix Account.



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#2 Dec 06 2011 at 12:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fee Type Service Period Price per 30 days
Basic Service Fee 30 days $6.99
90 days $5.99 (total $17.97)
180 days $4.99 (total $29.94)
Character Fee 30 days $3.00/character

For the US dollars.
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#4 Dec 06 2011 at 12:29 AM Rating: Default
whos gonna want to pay to play for those crappy moogle items?
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If you pay 180 days at a time it's dam near half price of what it would have been. :) Very happy to see that.
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#6 Dec 06 2011 at 12:56 AM Rating: Good
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I easily have that $$$'s worth of fun a month so SE can have my money. Besides, I spend more than the 180 sub price in wine a month.
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Didn't they say billing would begin mid November / early December? I guess this is one of the few good things about SE always being late with things. XD
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They wanted players to give 1.20 a chance before determining whether they feel it should be worth paying.

Since 1.20 got delayed, then it only makes sense for paying to be delayed as well.
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A fiver a month? Thats some pretty cheap pricing.
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#11 Dec 06 2011 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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A fiver a month? Thats some pretty cheap pricing.


I believe you're supposed to add 3 dollars to whichever price plan you have for the use of a character. So I think it's pay to play the game and pay to have a character to play the game.
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Am I reading this wrong or do you seriously have to pay $3 per character? That's... insane? Good bye mules I guess, wow.
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Am I reading this wrong or do you seriously have to pay $3 per character? That's... insane? Good bye mules I guess, wow.


Good marketing by them though. It almost looks like it's cheap but it's actually the same price as other mmos and with the /per attached it could be more.
Oh and don't forget the retainer fees also.

Edited, Dec 6th 2011 5:47am by Jetterbobby
#14 Dec 06 2011 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
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ScorchyWorchy wrote:
whos gonna want to pay to play for those crappy moogle items?


I sure will, I'm a sucker for these cutesy things, not to mention I already have like 7.000 crysta.


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#15 Dec 06 2011 at 5:31 AM Rating: Good
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If you pay 180 days at a time it's dam near half price of what it would have been. :) Very happy to see that.


How have you worked that out??

Basic service fee
30 days £4.79
180 days £21.54

180/30 = 6
6*4.79 = 28.74

28.74 discounted to 21.54 is not nearly half price...

£7.20 off = 25% discount.

The 180days figure does not include the character costs.

Oh wait did you mean from the 2.0 figures?

Even from the 2.0 figures the discount after adding one character is around 25% discount. It looks good £34.14 down to £21.54 but add 6months of £2.10 on (£12.60) Thats £46.74 down to £34.14 is a 27% discount. Still 6months it is for me ^^

I must say though I am a little annoyed. I'm sure YoshiP said somewhere that we will get to try the new class system before having to pay. I think this is a month or two too early. Perhaps someone can remember where he said that??

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I hope they post something about the FF14 and FF11 together discount.I still have some 30day trials to use for FF11 mules
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#17 Dec 06 2011 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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In all honesty I wasn't fully comfortable paying the full price for a game still in "beta" but I understand that in order for this to continue to progress they need some source of revenue.

But with the discounted price I think SE has made a very reasonable compromise and I'm all about that!

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Metin wrote:
Elionara wrote:
If you pay 180 days at a time it's dam near half price of what it would have been. :) Very happy to see that.


How have you worked that out??

Basic service fee
30 days £4.79
180 days £21.54

180/30 = 6
6*4.79 = 28.74

28.74 discounted to 21.54 is not nearly half price...

£7.20 off = 25% discount.

The 180days figure does not include the character costs.

Oh wait did you mean from the 2.0 figures?

Even from the 2.0 figures the discount after adding one character is around 25% discount. It looks good £34.14 down to £21.54 but add 6months of £2.10 on (£12.60) Thats £46.74 down to £34.14 is a 27% discount. Still 6months it is for me ^^

I must say though I am a little annoyed. I'm sure YoshiP said somewhere that we will get to try the new class system before having to pay. I think this is a month or two too early. Perhaps someone can remember where he said that??

Edited, Dec 6th 2011 7:36am by Metin


Meant to clarify. 30 days = 12.99 (old price)
If I pay 6 months under new price 30 days works out to 7.99 (39.xx%) Which under my own head is still dam near half price :D

In either case, I'll be paying up front for wife and I for a year :P
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Pricing is good but the character fee is totally absurd.

3 dollars.... and I assume that's for your main character too...

Considering only one character can play at a time, if you have 3 then that's 50% more than you're playing for the entire game just for the characters!!

Like everything else that sucks in this game, its born out of them making a priority of cutting down the RMT. Surplus, Market Wards, Gathering Fatigue, leve limits, 4 trade slots, no mailboxes, server lag caused by encryption and verification of every action to Japan -- All anti-RMT measures that have made this game suck. Instead of learning their lesson, they're at it again with this pricing model. Good luck with that.

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Elionara wrote:
Metin wrote:
Elionara wrote:
If you pay 180 days at a time it's dam near half price of what it would have been. :) Very happy to see that.


How have you worked that out??

Basic service fee
30 days £4.79
180 days £21.54

180/30 = 6
6*4.79 = 28.74

28.74 discounted to 21.54 is not nearly half price...

£7.20 off = 25% discount.

The 180days figure does not include the character costs.

Oh wait did you mean from the 2.0 figures?

Even from the 2.0 figures the discount after adding one character is around 25% discount. It looks good £34.14 down to £21.54 but add 6months of £2.10 on (£12.60) Thats £46.74 down to £34.14 is a 27% discount. Still 6months it is for me ^^

I must say though I am a little annoyed. I'm sure YoshiP said somewhere that we will get to try the new class system before having to pay. I think this is a month or two too early. Perhaps someone can remember where he said that??

Edited, Dec 6th 2011 7:36am by Metin


Meant to clarify. 30 days = 12.99 (old price)
If I pay 6 months under new price 30 days works out to 7.99 (39.xx%) Which under my own head is still dam near half price :D

In either case, I'll be paying up front for wife and I for a year :P


Thats in € ? I think you have missed the character fee from that. It works out to 10.99 when you add the character fee on.

wait...

You are comparing the old single monthly price €12.99 to the new 6 monthly price ( (€29.94 + €18) /6). I dont think you are making a great comparison but...

A more like for like comparison I would say single monthly goes from 12.99 to 10.99. or 6monthly from 10.99 to 7.99. unless the 6 monthly wasn't going to be available before?? Anyway good value I think despite coming a bit early
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#21 Dec 06 2011 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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Does anyone know why they wish to charge a 'basic' fee and then an additional character fee?
I thought in the past it would be the fee would include one character to start off with, then an additional fee per charactetr thereafter.

Is there any usability of the game if you choose only the basic fee and no character fee at all?

Is there a discount for 180 days of payment for a character (as there is for a basic fee?)

Either way, it seems if you go with the 6 month plan it comes to less than 8 euros/month, which is not at all bad. (If you have any reasonable interest in playing the game, 8euros/mo is not a deterrant by any means).
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LOL@ 3 dollar character fee, Se will never learn XD!
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So 8$ a month.... more then fair. Simply logging and testing for a week after the major patches between now and 2.0 covers the cost. This is just me, but i actually like this approach.

As for the character fee makes no difference really XI had it, XIV has it no big problem. Most MMO's require you to do 1 job/class per character so it's part of the games longevity to make you create 10 chars for the 10 jobs/classes. There's still a "character fee" it just encompasses all the jobs/classes you make. In SE's case all jobs/classes can be covered by one character stream lining things.

Maybe this will show it better then i can explain it.

WoW char fee covers:
Char 1 - Job A
Char 2 - Job B
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Char 9 - Job J

XI/XIV char fee covers:
Char 1 - Job A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J
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Vanity service is expensive? Welcome to 2006.

Because that's what additional characters in this game come down to.
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For those who were concerned about mules:

The original plan is to have retainers cost $1/month while additional characters (if you wanted to have another character in a different company, for example) is an additional $3 a month.

If you want a mule, just hire a retainer, you don't need another full blown character.
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Does anyone know why they wish to charge a 'basic' fee and then an additional character fee?
I thought in the past it would be the fee would include one character to start off with, then an additional fee per charactetr thereafter.


It's because of the way their billing is now set up through the AC site. Even in FFXI now the service itself is a product and the individual characters are a product.

As for the $3 price, I would assume it's because Tanaka and crew were still under the delusions that characters actually took up significant storage capacity on servers when they thought up FFXIV. After all, it's the reason they gave why your character would be 'deleted' after 90 days of inactivity back in the manual in the dark ages.
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I'm going to do everything I possibly can to stay in FFXIV - even if I have to play other games (i.e. SWTOR) between patches. I don't see how my server survives this though. We are already down to probably a little over a hundred players online (that's probably being very generous) during peak hours...would imagine that numbers is cut in half after D-Day (1/5/12). Would be nice if they saw this coming and had a plan for server merging in place but I highly doubt they do.
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With a date set for billing, does this mean the 1.20 update is near?

Edit: Just saw on BG that 1.20 should be out on 12/14

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#29 Dec 06 2011 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
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With a date set for billing, does this mean the 1.20 update is near?


According to this post, dec 14th

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#30 Dec 06 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
I think SE should be commended. I am liking the reduced monthly cost based on how much time you pay for at once. On top of that they are giving a further discount to FFXI/FFXIV players. Even though I am only playing FFXIV $4.99/mo + $3.00 per character is nice. In addition still no charge for two retainers...

I will probably condense my account down to one character for now though, as I no longer have the need for 4 character + 8 retainers worth of space now that they have reduced inv load and increased inv size (even if it is temp).

For those that have reached max levels on most of the classes they wanted I can understand not really wanting to pay, but for those that haven't like me, it is acceptable considering that we don't have much of a choice (pay or quit) and I am not willing to quit playing when only a few dollars stand in my way. Besides, the way I see it...if I wasn't playing FFXIV I would be spending a lot more on LoL and buying time at eBash (local place in town that you can play PC/xBox/PS3 stuff for cash but gives you the opportunity to sit down with a bunch of friends at the same place) playing MW3/Battlefield3/etc...).

@AngusX: I would hope so. I am getting antsy. Would like to know at least a confirmed date for it.
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Guys, the 3 dollars is for additional characters... read the asterik bit on the email you all should have recieved...

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* The above price plan includes a save slot for one character and the 30 day basic service fee.


That was in refrence to the $9.99 per month

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This picture is different than the one on the email...


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The $9.99 a month in that statement is the discounted price that includes the $6.99 basic service fee (which is technally nothing but a way to charge you for the service since you can't do anything without a character) and the $3.00 a month character fee. You're techinally being charged $3 for every character.

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The $9.99 a month in that statement is the discounted price that includes the $6.99 basic service fee (which is technally nothing but a way to charge you for the service since you can't do anything without a character) and the $3.00 a month character fee. You're techinally being charged $3 for every character.


By that logic every MMO does the same then, they just don't tell you what the character price is... (And yes, I know some games you can have unlimited and some you can have ALMOST every race/class combo without having to pay for a second account... but none ((that I've played)) let you do everything one a single char)
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By that logic every MMO does the same then, they just don't tell you what the character price is... (And yes, I know some games you can have unlimited and some you can have ALMOST every race/class combo without having to pay for a second account... but none ((that I've played)) let you do everything one a single char)


I never said most MMOs aren't run on a similiar system, I'm simply stating that's how SE themselves are describing the way payment works on this game. They charge you for a basic service fee then they charge you a character fee. Some people are confused when they see a basic service fee and assume that a character would be thrown into that. That SE decided to spilt the service and character fees (and the fact that you have to have both anyway) is honestly kinda shady in my opinion (because it's very deceptive to naive consumers) but that's neither here nor there.
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I guess what I'm saying is that they're trying to make it obvious that extra slots cost an additional 3 bucks a month, they honestly could word it a bit better.

ie: $9.99 per month w/1 char slot additional slots $3 per month or whatever.

But then again, they've never been perfect when it comes to plain English.
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eh if the service fee included a char I might bite, but 10 bucks a month is too much for a game I haven't logged in to for more than 30 days (says the official forum)

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but 10 bucks


It's 8$ per-month. Ok consider this after 1.20 all the classes will change 100%, so every one will be doing the learning curve for at least a month. Around the time people start feeling comfort with the new classes, we get jobs. Which will have a learning curve of there own. And so on. The idea of "8$ a month for beta" is incorrect in my opinion. Close to 8$ a month for a game emerging from the ashes.
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It's 8$ per-month. Ok consider this after 1.20 all the classes will change 100%, so every one will be doing the learning curve for at least a month. Around the time people start feeling comfort with the new classes, we get jobs. Which will have a learning curve of there own. And so on. The idea of "8$ a month for beta" is incorrect in my opinion. Close to 8$ a month for a game emerging from the ashes.


This is the attitude I'm going in with. 1.20 is introducing so many elements I've opined since beta as being fundamental to any MMO that it's only fair I give it a fresh approach.

That being said, even with these changes, if at the end of the day I don't feel my enjoyment of this game is worth the cost of the subscription I won't maintain an active account. This is true regardless of if it's $5 a month or $50.
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There are no radical changes in 1.20, don't make it out to be something that it is not, as for the beta part, well it is still a beta, one year out, 2 battle changes already lol, thats very beta
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There are no radical changes in 1.20, don't make it out to be something that it is not, as for the beta part, well it is still a beta, one year out, 2 battle changes already lol, thats very beta


Radical for an MMO? No.
Radical for FFXIV? Undeniable.

The entire class ability structure is getting an overhaul, along with the main vehicle for commerce between players and the ability for players to search out and join up with others in group-based experiences. Given the state of the game right now, those are extremely radical changes to see all in just one patch.

Does it address the entire needs list of what this game needs for mass appeal? That I don't know, but to deny that 1.20 brings about radical changes to Final Fantasy XIV is just downright wrong.
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There are no radical changes in 1.20, don't make it out to be something that it is not, as for the beta part, well it is still a beta, one year out, 2 battle changes already lol, thats very beta


Radical for an MMO? No.
Radical for FFXIV? Undeniable.

The entire class ability structure is getting an overhaul, along with the main vehicle for commerce between players and the ability for players to search out and join up with others in group-based experiences. Given the state of the game right now, those are extremely radical changes to see all in just one patch.

Does it address the entire needs list of what this game needs for mass appeal? That I don't know, but to deny that 1.20 brings about radical changes to Final Fantasy XIV is just downright wrong.


Those are not radical changes, just as when they added mounts and airships it was not radical, it was normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later, same as with the AH, it was expected to happen sooner or later, none of those changes where radical.

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Radical for an MMO? No.
Radical for FFXIV? Undeniable.


So, about fifty percent radicalness, then. I can live with that.
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Ostia wrote:

Those are not radical changes, just as when they added mounts and airships it was not radical, it was normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later, same as with the AH, it was expected to happen sooner or later, none of those changes where radical.


What changes would you consider radical? The vast majority of change will be "normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later", up till 2.0. Sure there's no bells and whistles, but that does not make the current changes any less valuable. As much as i would love for things to get better faster, i would like if SE didn't rush things again.
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Ostia wrote:


Those are not radical changes, just as when they added mounts and airships it was not radical, it was normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later, same as with the AH, it was expected to happen sooner or later, none of those changes where radical.



Prior to the staff realignment, the 1.20 changes including the AH and class skill changes were not something expected and meant for inclusion into the game. At the very least were not something discussed openly as a path the game would be going down.

Expectations vary from person to person, but those of us from beta and launch remember fondly of AH discussions being completely shot down as something not even on the radar. To see the change in direction and to see the actual implementation of AH-like features is news enough to us to be considered radical changes. It is at least a radical departure from the original direction this game was taking.

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#46 Dec 06 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you still have to take any additional steps if you had already set up an account with Crysta added when this game was first released last year?
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#47 Dec 06 2011 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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zpanda wrote:
Do you still have to take any additional steps if you had already set up an account with Crysta added when this game was first released last year?

You will have to re-affirm your desire to use your crysta to pay for the game i assume
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#48 Dec 06 2011 at 4:45 PM Rating: Default
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Although I rate down Ostia's every post there is a point in there somewhere. The new jobs are coming in 1.21 I think 1.20 changes some of the skills and abilities you can equip cross classes. The main changes that people seem excited about are AH and player search. These dont really change the game all that much, they're just a removal of unnecessary barriers to what is, i think, an enjoyable game. The ability changes will mean people have to readjust but again I dont really see this changing the game 'radically'. Rather I see that people are willing to give the game a fresh go again which is great. I hope they will see what has kept some of us in the game and enjoying ourselves.
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#49 Dec 06 2011 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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TwiddleDee wrote:
Ostia wrote:

Those are not radical changes, just as when they added mounts and airships it was not radical, it was normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later, same as with the AH, it was expected to happen sooner or later, none of those changes where radical.


What changes would you consider radical? The vast majority of change will be "normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later", up till 2.0. Sure there's no bells and whistles, but that does not make the current changes any less valuable. As much as i would love for things to get better faster, i would like if SE didn't rush things again.

I never said they where not valuable change's if i did please quote me :) All i said is that those upcoming changes are not radical at all, anybody that dint expect an AH or battle changes to come down the line, is simply an idiot.
Whales wrote:
Ostia wrote:


Those are not radical changes, just as when they added mounts and airships it was not radical, it was normal, expected, meant to be sooner or later, same as with the AH, it was expected to happen sooner or later, none of those changes where radical.



Prior to the staff realignment, the 1.20 changes including the AH and class skill changes were not something expected and meant for inclusion into the game. At the very least were not something discussed openly as a path the game would be going down.

Expectations vary from person to person, but those of us from beta and launch remember fondly of AH discussions being completely shot down as something not even on the radar. To see the change in direction and to see the actual implementation of AH-like features is news enough to us to be considered radical changes. It is at least a radical departure from the original direction this game was taking.

Edited, Dec 6th 2011 4:37pm by Whales


I was in beta, and i was in launch, yes AH talks where meet with pitchforks and the sort, but anybody who really thought that an AH was not coming down the line, was simply kidding themselves, this game simply cannot and will not survive if its kept in the dark ages of MMO'S, that is just a fact, that has been proven over a period of more than a year. Also the news of an AH like system is not radical, if i remember correctly during the polling that SE did, the AH option was one of the most or the most option that got votes :/ What would have been radical was if SE simply ignored it and kept on going foward with their EQ design of an 2011 MMO
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#50 Dec 06 2011 at 6:01 PM Rating: Default
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Just because the changes were expected do not make them any less radical.

Also, the word radical has many meanings and depending on the specific meaning the changes in 1.20 ARE radical, and they also are not :P

If an example is needed, I think the class changes are radical "relating to or affecting the basic nature or most important features of something".
#51 Dec 06 2011 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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I really don't get all this disappointment about character fee ...
Ok, in other MMOs usually it doesn't exist ... so what? Usually in other MMOs you can't use all classes on a single character either ...
This character fee was known since game release, why have you guys have to talk about it know? ...
Personally, I think mules are quite useless, maybe they could have been interesting in FFXI since you couldn't place more than 7 items on AH at the same time, but now i really don't see why should they exist ...
Btw,the 9€ fee comprehends the character fee, at least till 2.0 version, when the total will be 12.99€ as it should be ...

I expected a slighter better discount :X ... 9.99 is another way to say 10€ , wtf

Well, I think I'll pay for 1-2 months just to see version update 1.21 ... Job System etc ... at the end, It's the only interesting thing ... It's a suicide to give such a fee for a game without contents in a period when ppl could give a chance to games like SWTOR, GW2 etc.

Hurry up, 2.0 ...

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