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#102 Dec 18 2011 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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It's "frontloading" your product to get a maximum amount of customers in the minimum amount of time.
Worked perfectly well in the 90s, when reviews took at least some weeks to appear in some printed
game magazine. Works not so well in 2011, where reviewers usually post their reviews (or previews)
some time before a game officially goes on sale. Works definitely not in PTP-MMOs, where you aim for
a constant influx of well-informed new players and long time player retention.


Edited, Dec 18th 2011 1:04pm by Rinsui
#103 Dec 18 2011 at 8:01 PM Rating: Default
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reptiletim wrote:
Ostia wrote:

That is true, comparing the starting CG of FFXIV to the start of swotor, but as far as immersion goes, and gameplay, swotor just beats the crap out of FFXIV, i'm currently a lvl 14 sith marauder, and i have already explored a planet, explore ancient sith tombs, dispatched my master for a stronger one, killed a sith lord even tho i was only supposed to kill his son, but i made a deal with him, for a very nifty weapon and went agants the orders of my master for it, kill a few jedi scum who dared to invade my home planet, did a dungeon, have had over 10 parties etc etc.

Meanwhile in FFXIV i'm some adventurer, who's lvl 25, i saw some beast go out of control(Very nice CG btw) then i saw some people talk, then i saw some more people talk, then i talked to a midget girl, she sent me to some place, more talk, then i went to a camp, i killed some animals, then i talked more, and talked more, then i was like wtf, i grinded, grinded, grinded, did some leves, i shouted in uldah, i was ignored, i did the lvl 15 dungeon, i had fun, then i had to grind again, did some story quest, no challenge, then i talked more, then i hit 25, and we talked some more, then i had to walk, a lot.... and i logged off :(


I completely agree with you Ostia. The quality of the cutscenes in FFXIV (when there are some), the story, the quests, they just fall off abruptly after the opening scene. Come to think of it (and I might be baiting the flame here) FFXII did the same thing. Maybe it's a SE trademark?


Yeah, the story in FFXIV is interesting, i was intrigued at first, but is so far and between, and there is really no filler in between the levels that i stopped caring, also i hate how there is really no challenge in any of the quest, all the mobs are cakewalk, or some big strong guy carries you, or there is some mechanic that makes them easy as pie, in swotor there is a quest, where i died 7 times straight, not even a heroic quest, just some big beast, that chew me up and spat me out lol.

As for FFXII, yeah they kinda did that around the haftime of the game, but what i did noticed too, it was that in FFXII you had so much to do besides reach point A to continue the story, i could go and farm, explore, gather espers,or kill marks, marks had rich lore, and i really enjoyed that.
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#104 Dec 18 2011 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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Ostia wrote:
in swotor there is a quest, where i died 7 times straight, not even a heroic quest


Are you certain your mouse was plugged in?
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#105 Dec 18 2011 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
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KaneKitty wrote:
Ostia wrote:
in swotor there is a quest, where i died 7 times straight, not even a heroic quest


Are you certain your mouse was plugged in?


I don't think there are mice in SWtoR. Err, wait... what do you mean by mouse? Perhaps I've been playing too many FF games on PC to know exactly what that is :P
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HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#106 Dec 19 2011 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
Ostia wrote:
in swotor there is a quest, where i died 7 times straight, not even a heroic quest


Are you certain your mouse was plugged in?


I don't think there are mice in SWtoR. Err, wait... what do you mean by mouse? Perhaps I've been playing too many FF games on PC to know exactly what that is :P


I think at least one of the starting races eat mice and/or mouses.
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#107 Dec 19 2011 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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kainsilv wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
Ostia wrote:
in swotor there is a quest, where i died 7 times straight, not even a heroic quest


Are you certain your mouse was plugged in?


I don't think there are mice in SWtoR. Err, wait... what do you mean by mouse? Perhaps I've been playing too many FF games on PC to know exactly what that is :P


I think at least one of the starting races eat mice and/or mouses.


[Insert explanation about poor control functionality in [Insert SE MMO here]]
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#108 Dec 19 2011 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I've felt like this for the last three major updates. Some things improve, some things get worse.

But for me, those things that get worse were the things I enjoy. The things that improve aren't in my interest.

My LS occasionally teases me that Yoshi-P watches me and smacks me down.
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#109 Dec 19 2011 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
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KaneKitty wrote:
Ostia wrote:
in swotor there is a quest, where i died 7 times straight, not even a heroic quest


Are you certain your mouse was plugged in?


Yes my mouse was plugged in, and even if it was not, i use key's lol
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