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#1 Dec 22 2011 at 3:53 AM Rating: Good
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Directly from the horse`s mouth:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/32307-Can-we-have-a-server-merger-after-fee-take-place/page23

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Hi, this is Producer/Director Yoshida here.

I understand your concern on the number of concurrent users.

Actually the world merge is currently in plan. (...)

With the details such as when and how it will be done, they will be announced once they are confirmed.


Yay for reason!
#2 Dec 22 2011 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Directly from the horse`s mouth:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/32307-Can-we-have-a-server-merger-after-fee-take-place/page23

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Hi, this is Producer/Director Yoshida here.

I understand your concern on the number of concurrent users.

Actually the world merge is currently in plan. (...)

With the details such as when and how it will be done, they will be announced once they are confirmed.


Yay for reason!


lol @ all those who said they'd never do it. roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied playing on a server with 300 players online, most of which were either afk or crafting. Inb4 XIV is dying...
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lol @ all those who said they'd never do it. roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied playing on a server with 300 players online, most of which were either afk or crafting. Inb4 XIV is dying...


I'm happy with a merge, but you seem to celebrate it as a victory, don't you? Are you already practicing a grave dance?

Edit: needed a t somewhere.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 6:02am by MrMissile
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MrMissile wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:

lol @ all those who said they'd never do it. roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied playing on a server with 300 players online, most of which were either afk or crafting. Inb4 XIV is dying...


I'm happy with a merge, but you seem to celebrate it as a victory, don't you? Are you already practicing a grave dance?

For those who have been here posting in the thread titled 'Can we get some population numbers?', it is an obvious concern. People usually like to have other people around when they play MMOs. Has that concept escaped you? Mergers are a good thing...

Perhaps you weren't playing XI when SE merged those servers twice in the past several years and these(ZAM) forums were flooded with 'zomgffxidieded' threads.

I've said it before, but you seem to be too dense to understand it. I would like XIV to succeed. I have been and will always be critical of them whether they want me to(as an alpha tester) or not(as a player).

Get off my ****.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 6:13am by FilthMcNasty
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We will first analyze the number of players in the game after the billing service begins.
Based on that analysis, we will be running a simulation where the maximum concurrent access during the peak hours will become somewhere around 1500 to 2000 per World.

Not sure how they'll control it to get this range on each server if everyone gets to choose where they'll go, but if they do get it around there.. What does that leave us with, like 5 servers?
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FilthMcNasty wrote:

For those who have been here posting in the thread titled 'Can we get some population numbers?', it is an obvious concern. People usually like to have other people around when they play MMOs. Has that concept escaped you? Mergers are a good thing...

Perhaps you weren't playing XI when SE merged those servers twice in the past several years and these(ZAM) forums were flooded with 'zomgffxidieded' threads.

I've said it before, but you seem to be too dense to understand it. I would like XIV to succeed. I have been and will always be critical of them whether they want me to(as an alpha tester) or not(as a player).

Get off my ****.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 6:13am by FilthMcNasty


FFXI's Seraph, my server, merged. I wrote that I am happy with a merge btw. What part of that sentence don't you understand.

It's this "roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied playing on a server with 300 players online" that I don't understand though. People were satisfied, and now - when their situation might change - you laugh at them.

Hilarious, I guess.
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FFXI's Seraph, my server, merged. I wrote that I am happy with a merge btw. What part of that sentence don't you understand.


It's pretty clear to me that you were happy with the server merge. My post obviously wasn't referring to you so I'm not sure why you bothered to respond. I'm sure I said something in a past thread that you disagreed with so you feel you have to stalk my posts talking ****, but really man... it's just making you look bad.

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It's this "roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied playing on a server with 300 players online" that I don't understand though. People were satisfied, and now - when their situation might change - you laugh at them.


From the population thread...

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Anyone else have better numbers?

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Wow - are these numbers accurate? Considering these are the numbers when the game is still *free* , this is starting to look pretty bad for the billing starting on January.

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When you compare all this to FFXI which still has about 275,000 players (from the FFXIAH database which doesn't count mules who haven't accessed the AH), that's a BIG difference.

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If there aren't enough players on a server to maintain a healthy grouping environment, it's going to be hard to convince even the most ardent supporter to keep paying until 2.0


Quotes from only the first 10 or so posts in that thread. People are obviously concerned about the population in XIV. What about this don't you understand? If it isn't you than good, stop white knighting for 'them'.




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This is good news. Anyone from Karnak will tell you how difficult it is to find people to even attempt either primal battle. It's lonely over here, so looking forward to meeting new people once we can move!
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FilthMcNasty wrote:


Quotes from only the first 10 or so posts in that thread. People are obviously concerned about the population in XIV. What about this don't you understand? If it isn't you than good, stop white knighting for 'them'.




Do you have some White Knight fetish? When you are around, the term White Knight keeps popping up.

I do NOT defend anyone when I think that writing down "roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied" is immature. Why would you even THINK that I am defending anyone or anything?? Are you that blind? Can you even read properly? Are you that hungry for a debate?

Now please, show your age and continue to laugh at people who do not mind the current situation but will see things changed anyway. I am NOT one of them - I repeat: I am NOT one of them - but just continue to think that you're doing a victory dance in front of my face as well.



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MrMissile wrote:
Do you have some White Knight fetish? When you are around, the term White Knight keeps popping up.

I do NOT defend anyone when I think that writing down "roflmao @ those same people for being satisfied" is immature. Why would you even THINK that I am defending anyone or anything?? Are you that blind? Can you even read properly? Are you that hungry for a debate?

Now please, show your age and continue to laugh at people who do not mind the current situation but will see things changed anyway. I am NOT one of them - I repeat: I am NOT one of them - but just continue to think that you're doing a victory dance in front of my face as well.


You're defending people who you yourself state don't need to be defended. You're also engaging in the same activity you refer to as "immature". If you're above it then you'd keep your mouth shut, but for whatever reason you can't let one of my posts go without picking at it. If you think my posts are so immature, don't get involved. Stop **** riding.
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#11 Dec 22 2011 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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MrStyles wrote:
This is good news. Anyone from Karnak will tell you how difficult it is to find people to even attempt either primal battle. It's lonely over here, so looking forward to meeting new people once we can move!


I agree. I'm on Lindblum and it has been way too quiet lately. I can only solo for this long. Eventually I want to go out with a group of people and achieve something. As far as I am concerned they alreayd start merging worlds today :)
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MrMissile wrote:
MrStyles wrote:
This is good news. Anyone from Karnak will tell you how difficult it is to find people to even attempt either primal battle. It's lonely over here, so looking forward to meeting new people once we can move!


I agree. I'm on Lindblum and it has been way too quiet lately. I can only solo for this long. Eventually I want to go out with a group of people and achieve something. As far as I am concerned they alreayd start merging worlds today :)


Agreed haha! I enjoy parties the most, and would like to see more of them hopefully soon in the future!
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I am happy that the servers will be merged. It makes party searches for those who want to party much easier. However, I have a feeling that we will see camps starting to pop up that will be competing for mobs...or maybe not. In any case, glad they are doing it...but still a bit concerned that they are doing it...
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#14 Dec 22 2011 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
It's something they needed to do, especially on those 200-300 player servers. On the other hand though, once the media gets a hold of this, it's going to be a huge hit for SE. Doesn't matter how much the game has improved, people not playing will see server merger = dying MMO.

So it's good and bad all at once for SE.
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Whoever made that decision needs to be Fired! SE cannot afford to have somebody on boat with an actual brain for a MMO!
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MrMissile wrote:
Do you have some White Knight fetish?


Mmm, yeah. Tell me they've been good.
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After reading the posts yesterday, and thinking about the fact that 2.0 is on new servers, I was wondering if they were going to wait until the community was playerbased, or if they would bite the bullet and do the merge right away. I have to respect their decision to take the hit up front.

I guess this should make the Party search feature relevant:).

Name collisions will be painful. However, I imagine that a name collision will be like a needle in a haystack now.
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MrStyles wrote:
MrMissile wrote:
MrStyles wrote:
This is good news. Anyone from Karnak will tell you how difficult it is to find people to even attempt either primal battle. It's lonely over here, so looking forward to meeting new people once we can move!


I agree. I'm on Lindblum and it has been way too quiet lately. I can only solo for this long. Eventually I want to go out with a group of people and achieve something. As far as I am concerned they alreayd start merging worlds today :)


Agreed haha! I enjoy parties the most, and would like to see more of them hopefully soon in the future!



I'm with you guys on this one, hope they do it soon, and don't know what took them so long to bring this idea up.
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Montsegurnephcreep wrote:
It's something they needed to do, especially on those 200-300 player servers. On the other hand though, once the media gets a hold of this, it's going to be a huge hit for SE. Doesn't matter how much the game has improved, people not playing will see server merger = dying MMO.

So it's good and bad all at once for SE.



Anyone who even still follows the news of this game knows it's been in trouble of dying since Open Beta and likely before. This is not news to anyone.
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This is not news to anyone.


Objection! This is big news, considering not that long ago the word was "We have no plan's to be merging servers" and today "We will merge come subscription". Personally I think this is a double edged sword of a decision, however it's the lesser of 2 evil's. It makes me sad to admit but XIV's will probably parallel Aion* when subscriptions start.

*Server merge the existing population, but even after game was made good made no ground braking difference. So even now game has only 3 servers.
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hexaemeron wrote:
This is not news to anyone.


Objection! This is big news, considering not that long ago the word was "We have no plan's to be merging servers" and today "We will merge come subscription". Personally I think this is a double edged sword of a decision, however it's the lesser of 2 evil's. It makes me sad to admit but XIV's will probably parallel Aion* when subscriptions start.

*Server merge the existing population, but even after game was made good made no ground braking difference. So even now game has only 3 servers.


I find it ironic that there are people who still take the word of any corporation, much less SE at face value. Of course they'd have to merge servers. Who the **** would pay if there's no one around to PL them? Who the **** would pay to sit in an empty word and play Craft Fantasy?

They know very well they're gonna lose a mess of people when payment starts, making the problems even worse. Of course they'd have to merge servers. Frankly, I'd been expecting it since October 2010. It just took longer than I thought.


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I'm happy about this in the short term, low population servers are a bad thing. But I worry about 2 things. The first is server merges can look bad, like the game is dying, which I suppose until 2.0 it probably will be. The second is when 2.0 hits are they going to add new servers again and they will all just be full of new people?

Perhaps in 2.0 the severs will be able to hold 4K people at a time? I just don't want all us old timers on 5 severs and all the new guys on 5 different servers.
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But! The game IS Dying! Is been DYING! This is the single smartest thing SE has done, besides deciding to drop XIV and make XIV-2.
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Perhaps in 2.0 the severs will be able to hold 4K people at a time? I just don't want all us old timers on 5 severs and all the new guys on 5 different servers.

Might sound crazy, but as a player who won't be playing through the pre-2.0 sub phase, I'd rather join a fresh server for the rebirth if I decided to play it. I know that is around a year away, but something about everything being new and everyone starting from scratch is more appealing to me.
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
Yelta wrote:
Perhaps in 2.0 the severs will be able to hold 4K people at a time? I just don't want all us old timers on 5 severs and all the new guys on 5 different servers.

Might sound crazy, but as a player who won't be playing through the pre-2.0 sub phase, I'd rather join a fresh server for the rebirth if I decided to play it. I know that is around a year away, but something about everything being new and everyone starting from scratch is more appealing to me.


And there's something to be said for not enjoying slogging through the trial and error phases.
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Yelta wrote:
I'm happy about this in the short term, low population servers are a bad thing. But I worry about 2 things. The first is server merges can look bad, like the game is dying, which I suppose until 2.0 it probably will be. The second is when 2.0 hits are they going to add new servers again and they will all just be full of new people?

Perhaps in 2.0 the severs will be able to hold 4K people at a time? I just don't want all us old timers on 5 severs and all the new guys on 5 different servers.



I wouldn't want it to end up segregated in that aspect also. It was a great feeling in FFXI when Xbox went live, and a sudden influx of new players came along. As it stands though, I don't think there will be much of an influx when 2.0 arrives anyway, I have no hope.
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Might sound crazy, but as a player who won't be playing through the pre-2.0 sub phase, I'd rather join a fresh server for the rebirth if I decided to play it. I know that is around a year away, but something about everything being new and everyone starting from scratch is more appealing to me.

Doesn`t sound crazy to me. If I was a new player (and perhaps I`ll be, because I might reroll) I would not want to join a server that`s already filled to the rim with LV-50-in-everything nerds that absolutely dominate the economy either. Let them dominate their server - just give me the option to start fresh on a fresh one.

And I guess SE is at least smart enough to realize that, haha!
#28 Dec 23 2011 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
I'll be honest, I am never a fan of server merges... every time I have been forced to merge I lost a character name or something. It's annoying as ****. I suppose in this case it is necessary, however. /sigh I just hope that Palamecia is a destination server rather then moving us to some other server. And I swear... if I end up on Trabia I am gonna laugh, because my very first character I made was on Trabia. I only moved to Palamecia because Trabia was having stability issues first week, and Palamecia had a slightly lower population (so I figured it might not have the same issues. >.> ).
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I'll be honest, I am never a fan of server merges... every time I have been forced to merge I lost a character name or something. It's annoying as ****. I suppose in this case it is necessary, however. /sigh I just hope that Palamecia is a destination server rather then moving us to some other server. And I swear... if I end up on Trabia I am gonna laugh, because my very first character I made was on Trabia. I only moved to Palamecia because Trabia was having stability issues first week, and Palamecia had a slightly lower population (so I figured it might not have the same issues. >.> ).


I was on Besaid first and used the same choice to move to Karnak >.> Little did we know lol
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StateAlchemist of Amestris wrote:
I'll be honest, I am never a fan of server merges... every time I have been forced to merge I lost a character name or something. It's annoying as ****.


But I have 19 cross-server mules named State Alchemist (in a totally non-creepy and non-obsessed way)... who's to say which of us has the greater right!?
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Being an obsessive casual player (I guess that would be the best way to say it), I would rather be on a server with a healthy mix of high level people, and new players. You can get help on harder stuff if necessary, there will be gear available at all level ranges, and the economy will be more stable.

A server dominated by high level players would be stifling, and a server dominated by new players would have an unstable economy until the die hard players get their jobs to 50, and you then you just have the angsty elitests selling expensive items, and low level people huddling together in a cave:P.

Even though I am going to stick around, I want to be on a server when 2.0 comes out that has new people on it, and be able to level up one of the new classes with old friends who have left. Run though the new Storyline missions, and hopefully there will be new quests.

I might go obsessive over the next 6 months and get everything up to 50, but I am still undecided (that hat does look sweet... Stat wise:P).


But, all of that depends on 2.0. I am back to the same point I was last year at this time. Only difference is, last year, I was waiting until March for quests. This year, I am waiting until August for the pre-release (it's August right?).
#32 Dec 23 2011 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
I wouldn't say these server merges are a good thing, but I'd say they are needed. Looking at the low population numbers that have been coming from the party search tool tallies, and it's clear the active playerbase has reached woefully dismal levels.

On the other end of the spectrum, I'm guessing that removing half of the servers will significantly reduce the costs of keeping this game going. It's not just about a better in-game situation for us, but probably more about SE trying to stop the bleeding (or slow it) until V 2.0 comes out.
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An MMO needs more than 300 people on at all times. There's just kind of no getting around that. If SE wants the game to be enjoyably playable during non-peak periods, there's really not much choice but server merges. Whether it's a good thing for the game as a whole is debatable, I suppose, but it's bound to create a better experience for the actual current players.
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I'll be honest, I am never a fan of server merges... every time I have been forced to merge I lost a character name or something. It's annoying as ****.


But I have 19 cross-server mules named State Alchemist (in a totally non-creepy and non-obsessed way)... who's to say which of us has the greater right!?

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#35 Dec 25 2011 at 6:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yoshida wrote:
We will first analyze the number of players in the game after the billing service begins.
Based on that analysis, we will be running a simulation where the maximum concurrent access during the peak hours will become somewhere around 1500 to 2000 per World.


So basically, there'll only be one server then?
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People are really worried about this game's image?

99% of people who read in an on-line gaming site, "SE Announces FFXIV Server Merge" will think, "FFXIV is still around? WTF?" ... and then, quite possibly "Hmm, maybe I should check it out."

Not so much the last, but you never know.
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