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#1 Dec 31 2011 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Hi guys,

Is the partying system anything like FFXI? I am now level 10 Lancer and wondering if people generally join parties for leveling up in this game like in the last one.
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#2 Dec 31 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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From what I see on Rabanastre, people generally wait until ~25 to start grouping up.

I gave up on partying though, simply because every party I run into wants to get Powerleveled.

Your best bet is finding a Linkshell who will enjoy partying (and actually playing the game).
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#3 Dec 31 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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As far as putting up Seek and getting an invite to a 6 man party to grind for hours... not really. There's some grinding in groups, but not near as much as what you're used to in FFXI. There really aren't enough players, nor is there a good LFP system in place. Add to that the facts that soloing is much easier, quests give XP, leves, etc. I'm at 31 CON right now, and I've never been in a grinding group. When doing leves and such, you'll probably get into some pick-ups at the aetherytes.

I guess the good news is that no, you don't have to camp out in Selbina waiting for an invite to a Dunes party.
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Urste wrote:


I guess the good news is that no, you don't have to camp out in Selbina waiting for an invite to a Dunes party.


Ya know I never minded that one bit, but then again I'm a weirdo.

After level sync it was so easy to get groups, I never waited more than 20 minutes. I would just do a /sea for the areas and ask party leaders to hit me up when a spot opened.

Edited, Dec 31st 2011 8:11pm by Transmigration
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#5 Jan 01 2012 at 9:58 AM Rating: Default
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These guys must be on crappy servers. It's a wonder any of you play XIV at all if all you do is ***** about something.

On Trabia, there's always a party going for 30s and 40s. There's rare 25+ parties. The party search feature works just fine, too.

Generally, most people don't start grouping until after 20. Your best bet now is to hang around Camp Drybone until 20, doing leves and killing mobs around that area. If you see someone else doing the same, strike up a conversation and perhaps ask about a linkshell. At 20, move to Camp Horizon.
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Nobody was "*************** we're just relaying our experiences on the matter.
#7 Jan 02 2012 at 1:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm, I enjoyed the party grind in FFXI. I miss the skillchains and magic bursts. Soloing in FFXIV has been interesting so far but not as fun as partying in FFXI. I'll see what happens after level 20. Thanks for the info.
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#8 Jan 02 2012 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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Urste wrote:
I guess the good news is that no, you don't have to camp out in Selbina waiting for an invite to a Dunes party.


And the bad news is that, like most MMORPGs of late, other players are there to help fill an auction house, not necessarily to interact with you. But, hey, friends and exploration slow the gradual numerical progress - the real hardcores should know that. Smiley: waycool
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#9 Jan 02 2012 at 4:17 PM Rating: Good
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guynolan wrote:
Hmm, I enjoyed the party grind in FFXI. I miss the skillchains and magic bursts. Soloing in FFXIV has been interesting so far but not as fun as partying in FFXI. I'll see what happens after level 20. Thanks for the info.


Those don't exist in XI anymore sadly. Well, they still exist, but nobody gives a Fu now.

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#10 Jan 02 2012 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I noticed that in the last year that I played the game. No more pulling hate so the theif can do SATA off the tank lol. It was a very fun time in FFXI when parties were working together.

One thing I can say though, in FFXI I did wish that you could solo effectively. Now I have that in FFXIV and I want the party system back lol. I read or heard somewhere that part of a Lancer's job is the enhance the abilities of his/her allies. Well I haven't had any yet and sadly, people seem to be pretty anti-social in the game. At least the ones i've met. Funny coming from me as i'm a bit anti-social in real life haha.
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#11 Jan 02 2012 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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You'll start to see parties soon. Mainly because level linking post 20 is an amazing way to get EXP. Then again, I haven't played since June, so they might have changed it. Not to mention, it breaks the monotony of grinding one mob for hours.

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guynolan wrote:
Hmm, I enjoyed the party grind in FFXI. I miss the skillchains and magic bursts. Soloing in FFXIV has been interesting so far but not as fun as partying in FFXI. I'll see what happens after level 20. Thanks for the info.


Those don't exist in XI anymore sadly. Well, they still exist, but nobody gives a Fu now.



eh, there are LSes with people who are into it - and honestly, make friends and you can have whatever kind of party you want. You won't find people generally interested in it for pickup groups - but then again I never see anyone trying to shout for a six-char party either, so maybe if people want that they should reach out to others that want that?

I like the book burn alliances if only because I get to play with classes I almost never saw in exp, and you can pretty much play in the true sense of the word, and (this is the biggest thing) they are just usually there - ready to join - you don't have to use limited playtime to form them.

The game mechanics make traditional 6-char parties in old camps less efficient than book burning alliances, but they have also made things like soloing, duoing, and trioing way more possible than they ever were before.

Some people complain about pages - but really - they just give an extra reward for playing the way we were playing for ages - like can you really get upset about getting an extra couple thousand exp for killing crawlers you would have been burning endlessly anyway?
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#13 Jan 02 2012 at 5:57 PM Rating: Default
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I'm not upset at all about pages, pages rock, what upsets me most is the people.

I get it, you're in an ALLIANCE, going "afk" next to the book, most people don't notice you, guess what, it's noticable.

I get it, you're in an ALLIANCE, you think you can wear crappy gear because everyone else is in the party, but guess what, 90% of the other people share your mentality, and it's a lot harder. (A lot harder still being way easier than a normal party).

I get it, you're in an ALLIANCE, you think sub job isn't important, but it is. Still.

Come back from AFK and gear up and play your job properly and you'll kill much faster. Granted a gimped book burning alliance still gets more EXP than a normal grind party, but those geared up, well learned XI'er are going to have to carry you later, and explain everything to the people that just went from 1-60+ from book parties. And it's a burden, that you're almost halfway to cap, and barely know how to play your job or don't even know what White Gate is.

I hate the player, not the game.
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And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to start a flame war in the wrong topic, and I'm not disagreeing with you, pages are great. I'm also in one of those LSes you mentioned that still hold true to CoP, Nation, Aht Urghan, Nyzule, Sky, Sea, etc... It's wonderful. However, like I said, I hate that most, not all, but most players don't know their swords from their shields. It saddens me, mainly because I grew up with XI, I think I was about 15 or 16 when I got it, it was the only static thing in my life growing up. It's sad to see it in it's current state.

Anyway, heart felt post over.
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I hate the player, not the game.


Yet, it was the players that made that game so un-fun for me that I'd never want to go back even if the FFXI Team was competent enough to build the game perfect.

At least FFXIV have too few numbers to afford those sort of players rejecting each other offhand. Only issues with the FFXIV community is that it's yet to shave off its Dark Knight population and actually focus on improving the game, instead of offhandedly saying it sucks and whatnot.

As far as the OP: Well, it convinced me to register a payment method. That's more than what FFXI can do. We'll see how long it keeps me interested. I don't intend on rushing things, however.
#16 Jan 02 2012 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
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You do realize you just agreed with me that the players are what sucks, right?
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#17 Jan 02 2012 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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You do realize you just agreed with me that the players are what sucks, right?


Was adding my viewpoint for emphasis.

Still, there are some problems with the game itself, mainly the development team needs to be overhauled and the direction the developers have announced for the game needs to be derailed. I'll never agree with them calling Abyssea a mistake

But no, the people in that game is the worst part, and that's mainly due to 9 years of skinner-box drop-rate designs and passive aggressive competition mechanics. Mistakes that SO FAR, FFXIV have just barely skirted away from. (Still too close, IMO.)
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Ah I see, I read "Yet, it was the players etc..." in your post as "Yeah, but I disagree and this is why ... etc.", that's why I was so lost for a moment.

But yes, XI's game has gone downhill too, you're absolutely right. But I still don't hate it yet.

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#19 Jan 02 2012 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't played FFXI consistently in about 2 years. The one time I did go back was early this year when I joined a merit party as a Dragoon with some pretty good gear for my time during my hayday and the people in my party said my gear sucked lol. It showed me that the game had passed me by.

I see Dragoons with new weapons, armor and weapon skills O_o
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#20 Jan 02 2012 at 10:49 PM Rating: Good
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Ummm, what is a book burn? Pages? Fill me in lol. And do you think FFXI today is more fun then the current state of FFXIV?
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#21 Jan 02 2012 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
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guynolan wrote:
Ummm, what is a book burn? Pages? Fill me in lol. And do you think FFXI today is more fun then the current state of FFXIV?


By absolute leaps and bounds.
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#22 Jan 02 2012 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
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I have been more excited to play this game then the new star wars game. I bough them both at the same time. Not saying that it is the better game though lol.
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#23 Jan 03 2012 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
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On story alone, Star Wars absolutely and categorically embarrasses FFXIV. UI/responsiveness/just about any other metric besides sandboxness, FFXIV fails. And FFXIV is only a sandbox because they forgot to put any content in at launch.
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Guynolan, I inadvertently defaulted your post while swiping on my iPhone. I apologize for that :(
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#25 Jan 03 2012 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Guynolan, I inadvertently defaulted your post while swiping on my iPhone. I apologize for that :(


Another Apple-induced casualty. T_T
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SW made me miss the sandboxness of FFXIV. Unfortunately, given the undisputed financial success of SWTOR, and the undisputed financial catastrophe that is FFXIV, we'll certainly be seeing more linear MMOs than sandbox MMOs in the foreseeable future.
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SW made me miss the sandboxness of FFXIV. Unfortunately, given the undisputed financial success of SWTOR, and the undisputed financial catastrophe that is FFXIV, we'll certainly be seeing more linear MMOs than sandbox MMOs in the foreseeable future.


Sandboxes have to give you all the tools necessary to create your own experience or affect a dynamic world. FFXIV isn't a sandbox. A game engine devoid of content (at launch, yes, I know there's a meager amount of content now) is not a sandbox.
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yfaithfully wrote:
SW made me miss the sandboxness of FFXIV. Unfortunately, given the undisputed financial success of SWTOR, and the undisputed financial catastrophe that is FFXIV, we'll certainly be seeing more linear MMOs than sandbox MMOs in the foreseeable future.


Sandboxes have to give you all the tools necessary to create your own experience or affect a dynamic world. FFXIV isn't a sandbox. A game engine devoid of content (at launch, yes, I know there's a meager amount of content now) is not a sandbox.


This. I'd love a sandbox mmo - but for it to be a success it would need to be chock a block full of content - and not be filled with artificial walls (so you should be able to swim, jump, fly, dig etc - and interact with just about everything in the world)
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