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#1 Jan 09 2012 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm trying to sign up for the 180 day option, and looking at the website with the pricing structure I was under the assumption that for 180 days it was $29.94 per this link: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/fees1112jklasdwryopemeopw.html

Now I got to the reactivation page and it's telling me that I will be charged $47.94 for the 180 days. What's going on?
Character fee: 18
Basic service fee: 41.94
Discount: -12
Total: 47.94

Am I doing something wrong? Or will it actually charge me $29.94 after I go through with it? Why do they have to make everything so difficult =/
#2 Jan 09 2012 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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Vashteera wrote:
I'm trying to sign up for the 180 day option, and looking at the website with the pricing structure I was under the assumption that for 180 days it was $29.94 per this link: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/fees1112jklasdwryopemeopw.html

Now I got to the reactivation page and it's telling me that I will be charged $47.94 for the 180 days. What's going on?
Character fee: 18
Basic service fee: 41.94
Discount: -12
Total: 47.94

Am I doing something wrong? Or will it actually charge me $29.94 after I go through with it? Why do they have to make everything so difficult =/


Looks like $29.94 for the service, which you're right about. Plus $18 for the characters. Equals your grand total of $47.94.

Edit: So, to reduce your total cost, reduce the number of characters you have from 6.

Edited, Jan 9th 2012 7:21pm by LebargeX
#3 Jan 09 2012 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I only have 1 character, but thank you I figured it out now. It's a fee for the character over 6 months

6 months x fee for 1 character at 3/month. = 18

Pretty much gonna have to say F that. Game is so not worth that much money lmao. I'll wait for Diablo. Was only looking for something to kill time when I'm not raiding in SWTOR anyway...
#4 Jan 09 2012 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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Ah, that makes more sense.

Less than $50 for 6 months is pretty cheap imho though....
#5 Jan 09 2012 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe cheap, but that game is garbage right now compared to TOR, so many believe.
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#6 Jan 09 2012 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I pay for quality.
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#7 Jan 10 2012 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I pay for quality.

So you're not paying?
#8 Jan 10 2012 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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The 90 and 180 day discounts are not in effect at all. I went for 90 days myself and ended up paying full price. The monthly discount for larger amoutns of time does not apply like they stated it would. I even spoke with a SE Rep about it and he told me there was nothing he could do and that he'd "escalate the issue", or in other words I'd never hear from them again.
#9 Jan 10 2012 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I pay for quality.

So you're not paying?


No, I'm not paying.
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#10 Jan 10 2012 at 11:44 AM Rating: Default
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I also am wondering why I was charged the $47.94 and not the discounted rate. Did you hear back from them about this?
#11 Jan 10 2012 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
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Funny.
#12 Jan 10 2012 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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No. And based on how the customer service guy spoke to me it was absolutely clear I never would. I lost about 10 bucks, so I decided it wasn't worth raising **** over, but it just goes to show how ****** of a company they still are.
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No. And based on how the customer service guy spoke to me it was absolutely clear I never would. I lost about 10 bucks, so I decided it wasn't worth raising **** over, but it just goes to show how sh*tty of a company they still are.


You didn't add $3/m per character charge. The charge is correct, the info page is confusing but they did show that character charge per 30 days.

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I also am wondering why I was charged the $47.94 and not the discounted rate. Did you hear back from them about this?


It is the discounted rate for 6 months after discounted till 2.0. 6 month with just discounted till 2.0 would be $9.99 * 6 = $59.94, 6 month without any discounts would be $12.99 * 6 = $77.94.

Edited, Jan 10th 2012 8:25pm by Khornette
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#14 Jan 10 2012 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Realistically, it's not actually sh*tty. You were charged exactly what the page told you the price would be. They listed the prices exactly the same way they've listed the prices for FFXI for the last decade. Subscription fee = x, character fee (content ID) = x. Anyone who has played FFXI ought to recognize it. They do it this way because many people have multiple characters. You pay for the subscription and you pay for each character.

The only actual difference is they have a "bulk" discount available for the subscription. The service periods are listed. The character fee is listed right below it and is marked service period 30 days. I suppose they could have listed an "out the door price" for each service period, but realistically, there's really no reason to complain- it's marked clearly.





Edited, Jan 10th 2012 8:42pm by ChaChaJaJa
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#15 Jan 10 2012 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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ChaChaJaJa wrote:
Realistically, it's not actually sh*tty. You were charged exactly what the page told you the price would be. They listed the prices exactly the same way they've listed the prices for FFXI for the last decade. Subscription fee = x, character fee (content ID) = x. Anyone who has played FFXI ought to recognize it. They do it this way because many people have multiple characters. You pay for the subscription and you pay for each character.

The only actual difference is they have a "bulk" discount available for the subscription. The service periods are listed. The character fee is listed right below it and is marked service period 30 days. I suppose they could have listed an "out the door price" for each service period, but realistically, there's really no reason to complain- it's marked clearly.





Edited, Jan 10th 2012 8:42pm by ChaChaJaJa


Or they could have done what the rest of the universe does and not charge on a per character basis.
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#16 Jan 10 2012 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not commenting on that, just saying that there isn't anything misleading- it's clearly marked and it's the same way they've billed for a decade. You can pile on SE all you want, but don't accuse them of stuff that they aren't doing.

On an alternate note... I'm just curious Hex- why do you hang around these boards? The only comments you ever have are negative, glass half empty type bullsh*t. We are all clear on the fact that you hate the game and you think SE is the worst company ever in the history of the world. We are clear that you aren't interested in playing. So why do you hang around here being miserable all the time? All that negative energy... must suck to always feel the need to spread misery...

Edited, Jan 10th 2012 8:59pm by ChaChaJaJa
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#17 Jan 10 2012 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh, I'm really not miserable. Bored, perhaps, but definitely not miserable. I really do like to have discussions and debate. This just happens to be a bit one-sided of a topic, I admit. ;)
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#18 Jan 10 2012 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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That's cool. You are entitled to your opinion. But allow me to attempt to illuminate my point with a story...

Suppose I decide to date this girl. When I met her, she looked beautiful, but after awhile, I decided that despite her good looks, she's just not my type. So I decide to break up with her. How do I act after that?

Do I

A) Move on, live and let live, find a new girl to date and get on with my life?

or Do I

B) Insist on frequenting the place where all her friends hang out, talking about all the reasons I decided to dump her and telling everyone why she's just not girlfriend material.

My point is, we know how you feel bud. You've made it pretty clear. Allow us to feel how we feel.

Edited, Jan 10th 2012 9:25pm by ChaChaJaJa
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#19 Jan 10 2012 at 8:56 PM Rating: Good
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ChaChaJaJa wrote:
That's cool. You are entitled to your opinion. But allow me to attempt to illuminate my point with a story...

Suppose I decide to date this girl. When I met her, she looked beautiful, but after awhile, I decided that despite her good looks, she's just not my type. So I decide to break up with her. How do I act after that?

Do I

A) Move on, live and let live, find a new girl to date and get on with my life?

or Do I

B) Insist on frequenting the place where all her friends hang out, talking about all the reasons I decided to dump her and telling everyone why she's just not girlfriend material.

My point is, we know how you feel bud. You've made it pretty clear. Allow us to feel how we feel.

Edited, Jan 10th 2012 9:25pm by ChaChaJaJa


I think he doesn't mind people enjoying the game honestly, I think he just likes debating...or the trash talk...kind of like sports. The trash talk, it's fun. It gives him something to do I guess.
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#20 Jan 10 2012 at 9:49 PM Rating: Good
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ChaChaJaJa wrote:
That's cool. You are entitled to your opinion. But allow me to attempt to illuminate my point with a story...

Suppose I decide to date this girl. When I met her, she looked beautiful, but after awhile, I decided that despite her good looks, she's just not my type. So I decide to break up with her. How do I act after that?

Do I

A) Move on, live and let live, find a new girl to date and get on with my life?

or Do I

B) Insist on frequenting the place where all her friends hang out, talking about all the reasons I decided to dump her and telling everyone why she's just not girlfriend material.

My point is, we know how you feel bud. You've made it pretty clear. Allow us to feel how we feel.

Edited, Jan 10th 2012 9:25pm by ChaChaJaJa


+1 for the analogy!
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ChaChaJaJa wrote:
Suppose I decide to date this girl. When I met her, she looked beautiful, but after awhile, I decided that despite her good looks, she's just not my type. So I decide to break up with her. How do I act after that?

Do I

A) Move on, live and let live, find a new girl to date and get on with my life?

or Do I

B) Insist on frequenting the place where all her friends hang out, talking about all the reasons I decided to dump her and telling everyone why she's just not girlfriend material.


She's not going to be my girlfriend, especially when she insists that I pay for the dates, unless she's putting out.

Blue boxed!

Edited, Jan 10th 2012 11:22pm by FilthMcNasty
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#22 Jan 11 2012 at 7:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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The 90 and 180 day discounts are not in effect at all. I went for 90 days myself and ended up paying full price. The monthly discount for larger amoutns of time does not apply like they stated it would. I even spoke with a SE Rep about it and he told me there was nothing he could do and that he'd "escalate the issue", or in other words I'd never hear from them again.


The Discount's are working. i paid 3414 crysta for 180 days service. Click for screenie

Dzian Cielo Saronia Continuous 1,260 Crysta
Basic Service 2,874 Crysta
Bulk Service Discount -720 Crysta
Total 3,414 Crysta

now that works out at £34.14GBP not sure on the USD equivellant though but i would assume the same discount should be applied. i use crysta cos i trust paypal more than the other options.

Edited, Jan 11th 2012 8:57am by Dzian
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There seems to be way too much high school drama goin on regarding the character fee issue; lets analyze this like adults, shall we? Oh, and let's do this under the assumption that the quality of the game and "discounts" do not matter for the sake of this particular argument.

Character fee: $3.00
Subscription fee: $9.99
Total: $12.99

Ok so, if you look at this from the point of view of someone who hasn't read any articles about the total cost of this game, this is suggesting the player is being penalized for buying a character, which is required to make the subscription worthwhile. However, the combined cost is $12.99, which just so happens to be the standard subscription for a FF MMO. Coincidence? Hardly...

The total fee to play per month is $12.99, flat rate. SE just decided to itemize the costs to show you what it would cost to own another character. Confusing to the common individual? Absolutely. But if it helps you sleep at night, add the two together and get your standard subscription fee, and stop complaining about the fact that you fail at math or can't be bothered to use common sense.
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PalidorCarbuncle wrote:
The total fee to play per month is $12.99, flat rate. SE just decided to itemize the costs to show you what it would cost to own another character.


A flat rate is a fixed price that doesn't change. XIV subs change based on how many characters you want to play so it isn't actually a flat rate...
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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PalidorCarbuncle wrote:
There seems to be way too much high school drama goin on regarding the character fee issue; lets analyze this like adults, shall we? Oh, and let's do this under the assumption that the quality of the game and "discounts" do not matter for the sake of this particular argument.

Character fee: $3.00
Subscription fee: $9.99
Total: $12.99

Ok so, if you look at this from the point of view of someone who hasn't read any articles about the total cost of this game, this is suggesting the player is being penalized for buying a character, which is required to make the subscription worthwhile. However, the combined cost is $12.99, which just so happens to be the standard subscription for a FF MMO. Coincidence? Hardly...

The total fee to play per month is $12.99, flat rate. SE just decided to itemize the costs to show you what it would cost to own another character. Confusing to the common individual? Absolutely. But if it helps you sleep at night, add the two together and get your standard subscription fee, and stop complaining about the fact that you fail at math or can't be bothered to use common sense.


No one here is really failing at math, it was just the fact that SE goes out of it's way to highlight the basic service fees and not the character fees so many people overlook them when going to sign up. The way it's worded on the site makes it seem like for 180 days you would have to pay $29.94, which honestly seems reasonable considering the game is still in a beta condition - yes they are relaunching the game so anything until 2.0 isn't the real game anymore. Any normal company would list how much it is to play the game outright, but then again any normal company doesn't charge 3 dollars per character per month lmao (especially charging for your first character). It's just not the norm for people to see it so of course they are going to overlook the character fee charge when they see $29.94 for 180 days.

Sorry but charging almost $50 for an unfinished game for 180 days of playtime is absurd... especially considering the competition that's out there now!
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Or they could have done what the rest of the universe does and not charge on a per character basis.


Or at least include 1 character as part of their base fee so they don't look so shady
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if they had told you guys that it was 12.99 + each additional character, instead of 9.99 + 3.00 per character, the only ******** would have been about how expensive it was for an unfinished game lol
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Most games I have played I have had multiple characters, most games I have played were 15 bucks per month.

If all you want is 1 character $12.99 would be a decent price(if the game wasnt a steaming pile of garbage) but if you want even 1 extra character FFXIV(non discount price) is more expensive than any other major MMO I know of.
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