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#1 Jan 13 2012 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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I call them goobers, you may know them as Goobbues.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/35318-Monture-Goobbue-!?p=515981#post515981


A friend posted it on our LS page and I wanted to share it with you all since it wasn't posted here. I believe you can only get these if you're playing before 2.0.

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They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.
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Hehe I want to have a Lalafell dance party on his head!
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Another great addition, Yoshida. Aside from the far-too-thick carpets looking pretty bad and the massively intrusive goobues themselves (imagine a camp of people riding those, clipping through one another, the modded goobues shaking along like a tarutaru in fast motion), I happened to notice that the clouds in the backgrounds of both pictures are the exact same clouds. *sigh*

"Silly mounts" are perhaps one of the last things that would entice me to this sad game; in fact, they repel me.
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Another great addition, Yoshida. Aside from the far-too-thick carpets looking pretty bad and the massively intrusive goobues themselves (imagine a camp of people riding those, clipping through one another, the modded goobues shaking along like a tarutaru in fast motion), I happened to notice that the clouds in the backgrounds of both pictures are the exact same clouds. *sigh*

"Silly mounts" are perhaps one of the last things that would entice me to this sad game; in fact, they repel me.


Yeah..'Silly Mounts' are just appeaing the people who must have 1,000,000 mounts for whatever reason, it's usually a turn off for me with MMOs because what purpose would you need with more mounts? This game is slowly but surely going to lose it's visual style to appease certain people.

As much good as Yoshida does as a director and producer, he's slowly making this into yet another MMORPG you probably played in 2004 like every other new MMO is.
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I see it as "Hey..got myself a new Goobbue...yet I have nowhere to go" sigh...
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There's also an Ahriman and Drake mount coming.
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.


**** i paid for 180 days and this is not making want to re-log.... maybe 1.21 will change that, for now meh..
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.


**** i paid for 180 days and this is not making want to re-log.... maybe 1.21 will change that, for now meh..


As Sheldon would say from BBT: "There there"

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Might as well chime in with my opinion:

I'm all for the various mounts, there's also magitek armor mounts in the works as well.

However, I've always seen the beastmen races as you know, bad guys, rather than mounts. Other Final Fantasy games (such as V for example) have had mounts other than chocobos, but they were usually wyverns or hydras, or something that's not seen as a monster.

A Goobbue is clearly seen destroying ul'dah in one of the opening missions of the game. It doesn't make sense to me that it would then become a friendly mount.
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.

Five star post. Invaluable insight. It's as though you can see right through the ******** because you're not paying a subscription fee.
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However, I've always seen the beastmen races as you know, bad guys, rather than mounts. Other Final Fantasy games (such as V for example) have had mounts other than chocobos, but they were usually wyverns or hydras, or something that's not seen as a monster.


I've always seen monsters such as Goobbues as just random monsters of the FF universe, neither good nor bad. I could see how some could be used as mounts. It's no different than horses. If you tried to ride a wild horse, it would probably throw you off and stomp on you. Break its spirits though, and then you can ride the same wild horse all you'd like.

At this point, I take the stance that any addition to the game is a good addition. I have to think SE is looking ahead at the big picture of Version 2.0. Once the massive copy-paste zones we have now are divided into smaller, more diverse zones, there will probably be more of a need to travel using mounts, and who doesn't like to have something different sometimes?

The devs are in kind of a lose-lose position right now because, short of Version 2.0, there's really nothing that can be added to the game to fix its most glaring problems.
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It seems that they've been in a lose-lose situation since the first dev team was restructured. There's always going to be a group that isn't happy with the future/changes/direction of the game.
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Not sure I want this... but I think I'll ride one just because. I hope they walk slower than PC unmounted to reduce the usage.
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As much good as Yoshida does as a director and producer, he's slowly making this into yet another MMORPG you probably played in 2004 like every other new MMO is.


This. Because that's exactly where it's all headed.
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.

Five star post. Invaluable insight. It's as though you can see right through the bullsh*t because you're not paying a subscription fee.


Yes I know. Now bow down and kiss my back side XD

Basically what I was saying in my post is, if that is a way they are maybe trying to sway people who have left to come back during their "beta" phase or w/e you want to call it, it's not really much of an incentive. I would be persuaded to go back if it were still free up until 2.0 when it's supposed to be a completely different game and supposedly worth my time and money.

Until then, a gooboo mount won't do it for me.

Now, if they are just trying to reward those who are willing to give them their money to play this portion of their re-vamp, then they hit the nail on the head. Either way I see it it's a win win. I don't have to play something I'm not intersted in, and those who are get a nifty little mount for a minimum of 12.99/mo :P
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All I want to know is can it take more damage than a chocobo and can a Lallafell stay on it head when it goes under a bridge.
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
Almalexia wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.

Five star post. Invaluable insight. It's as though you can see right through the bullsh*t because you're not paying a subscription fee.


Yes I know. Now bow down and kiss my back side XD


Is the backside nice? :o
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
Almalexia wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.

Five star post. Invaluable insight. It's as though you can see right through the bullsh*t because you're not paying a subscription fee.


Yes I know. Now bow down and kiss my back side XD

Basically what I was saying in my post is, if that is a way they are maybe trying to sway people who have left to come back during their "beta" phase or w/e you want to call it, it's not really much of an incentive. I would be persuaded to go back if it were still free up until 2.0 when it's supposed to be a completely different game and supposedly worth my time and money.

Until then, a gooboo mount won't do it for me.

Now, if they are just trying to reward those who are willing to give them their money to play this portion of their re-vamp, then they hit the nail on the head. Either way I see it it's a win win. I don't have to play something I'm not intersted in, and those who are get a nifty little mount for a minimum of 12.99/mo :P


I don't think they're trying to sway people who left to come back by giving mounts, I'm pretty sure that's what 2.0 is for. Also, 9.99 a month for the time being.

I'm not saying this is justification, but at least have the right information!
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Plus, this, the wolf, the ahriman and the drake are mounts specifically for people who play now until 2.0, something those who rejoin/play only at 2.0 won't get.

So it's not a carrot on a stick, it's just a special treat...other MMOs does it all the time.
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A Goobbue is clearly seen destroying ul'dah in one of the opening missions of the game. It doesn't make sense to me that it would then become a friendly mount.


I thought that at first but if you notice the bracelet on the mount I was assuming that they were being controlled by some magic means or maybe combined mechanical/magic - like in the opening scene. I think its a great idea to make different mounts particularly if they all have different attributes. For example the Goobbue mount is slower but can walk through areas that you would normally get one-shotted in (would normally lame your choc mount). An eye mount moves normal speed, very weak but can help your vision for gathering (e.g. mining/botany points become visible from much further away or special ones become available).

Like the idea. I don't see the introduction of this as any sort of issue. Why some people are even posting on it that have left the game is beyond me.
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I agree that a gobbue mount is silly but i like the idea of rewarding highly organized and high level players with cosmetic or novelty items.

Pretty ironic that items with no value can potential rake in more players then items with mid-high value.

Or hey maybe they'll just make it a reward for players who pay to play a game that recycles the same bad MMO design practices...
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Time to sub 1.21 I guess.

I wasn't going to, but that mount is absolutely a must-have.
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UltKnightGrover wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Almalexia wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
They can keep them. I'm still no going to pay for a beta.

Five star post. Invaluable insight. It's as though you can see right through the bullsh*t because you're not paying a subscription fee.


Yes I know. Now bow down and kiss my back side XD

Basically what I was saying in my post is, if that is a way they are maybe trying to sway people who have left to come back during their "beta" phase or w/e you want to call it, it's not really much of an incentive. I would be persuaded to go back if it were still free up until 2.0 when it's supposed to be a completely different game and supposedly worth my time and money.

Until then, a gooboo mount won't do it for me.

Now, if they are just trying to reward those who are willing to give them their money to play this portion of their re-vamp, then they hit the nail on the head. Either way I see it it's a win win. I don't have to play something I'm not intersted in, and those who are get a nifty little mount for a minimum of 12.99/mo :P


I don't think they're trying to sway people who left to come back by giving mounts, I'm pretty sure that's what 2.0 is for. Also, 9.99 a month for the time being.

I'm not saying this is justification, but at least have the right information!



Wait, I thought that as just a base fee then they were charging an extra 3$ per character? Hence 12.99? Blah. Pregnancy brain has been equipped and it's +1, so comprehension for the next year is out the window. So bear with me.

That is awesome that they are rewarding the players who chose to stay. But is a special mount really reward enough? Idk. I think those that are staying should be compensated more during this pay/revamp period. Not just with spiffy mounts.

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It's discounted until 2.0, then there will be another free trial period to entice people to come back and show off the changes to the game, and then it will be 12.99 a month.

If you're on the fence about the future of the game, I suggest coming back on that second free trial period before the price increase. The second free trial period will be somewhere near the time of PS3 release and after the 2.0 client is freely distributed to PC-users who already have version 1.0.

I forgot the exact time-frame.

Edited, Jan 14th 2012 9:30am by UltKnightGrover
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For example the Goobbue mount is slower but can walk through areas that you would normally get one-shotted in (would normally lame your choc mount). An eye mount moves normal speed, very weak but can help your vision for gathering (e.g. mining/botany points become visible from much further away or special ones become available).


Yeah, that would be a fantastic idea, and I quite like it; different vehicles with functionality (especially if they were quested somehow!) would enhance the immersion of the world greatly. Unfortunately, SE's mounts will just be slight modifications of already extant monsters that do nothing apart from try to stand out for the sheer purpose of attracting a handful of players in the easiest way possible. You know, like other MMOs do.
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I hope we get to name them like our chocobo! My big worry is keeping my chocobo away from my goobbue when the goobbue is hungry. Would hate to call my chocobo and just the remaining feathers float around me...
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While I'm not thrilled at the prospect of this particular mount, it is nice to have variety.

Now what I would REALLY like to see, is a reason to use these different mounts. Maybe the Gobbue can move logs which reveal shortcuts, maybe there's a mini-game where each different mount helps in a different way. Another idea would be movement speed on certain terrain... some sort of reason to use these different mounts.
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Goobbue mount should be able to carry a Light Party. Also, you should be able to affix player-crafted Cannon/Mortar/Uldah Missile Launcher on its head and turn it into a walking Wanzer.
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Perrin, ****** Superhero wrote:
While I'm not thrilled at the prospect of this particular mount, it is nice to have variety.

Now what I would REALLY like to see, is a reason to use these different mounts. Maybe the Gobbue can move logs which reveal shortcuts, maybe there's a mini-game where each different mount helps in a different way. Another idea would be movement speed on certain terrain... some sort of reason to use these different mounts.


That would be a nifty idea for mounts if they plan on introducing various mounts to this game. Each one has a specific function that is does. Maybe you should leave a suggestion for the developement team for the future of the evolution of mounts.
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I don't use the SE forums... feel free to use or modify my idea if you want to

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Goobbue mount should be able to carry a Light Party. Also, you should be able to affix player-crafted Cannon/Mortar/Uldah Missile Launcher on its head and turn it into a walking Wanzer.


Oddly, you just made me want to revisit Front Mission Evolved and then I checked for Wanzer hacks and there isn't a Goobbue one >.<

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Oddly, you just made me want to revisit Front Mission Evolved and then I checked for Wanzer hacks and there isn't a Goobbue one >.<


It would be called a Woobber.
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#34 Jan 16 2012 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing

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The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing



It's this idea that scores of people who want to play the game they bought and cannot because SE's baffling/backward third-party billing systems won't accept their money goes unresolved, but HEY, look everyone, it's a new MOUNT!!!! is what SE chooses to talk about.

The fact that they had more than 16 months to fix the crappy billing system they put in place, and did absolutely NOTHING with it, and then starting billing with it being as broken as it is, with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.

But hey, new mounts, yay!

*eyeroll* -- I seriously wonder why people continue to tolerate this Romper Room/Sesame Street operation when they continue to disappoint on OBVIOUS things at every. single. turn.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:23am by hexaemeron
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with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.


You had me until that point.

Optional billing options are coming this month (constantly mentioned by the community representatives), and if SE loses customers over this few weeks gap they had it coming and know it. Either way you don't simply snap your fingers and a first-party billing infrastructure is up and running.
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You had me until that point.

Optional billing options are coming this month (constantly mentioned by the community representatives), and if SE loses customers over this few weeks gap they had it coming and know it. Either way you don't simply snap your fingers and a first-party billing infrastructure is up and running.


What were their infrastructure people doing for the past 16 months when the game was free? These issues should have been ironed out over the YEAR and a HALF that the game was free.

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The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing



It's this idea that scores of people who want to play the game they bought and cannot because SE's baffling/backward third-party billing systems won't accept their money goes unresolved, but HEY, look everyone, it's a new MOUNT!!!! is what SE chooses to talk about.

The fact that they had more than 16 months to fix the crappy billing system they put in place, and did absolutely NOTHING with it, and then starting billing with it being as broken as it is, with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.

But hey, new mounts, yay!

*eyeroll* -- I seriously wonder why people continue to tolerate this Romper Room/Sesame Street operation when they continue to disappoint on OBVIOUS things at every. single. turn.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:23am by hexaemeron


You act like in game mounts and billing are managed by the same group of people.

Yes click and buy is probably the worst billing system in the world but what the heck does that have to do with a goobue mount? Do you honestly think the guys doing the artwork/animations and such should have halted all work because of some billing issues?

I havent actually heard about these billing issues, but considering your past posts i think its safe to assume you yourself dont have this issue, so why are you pretending to care? trust me all of those people having billing issues can stick up for themselves.

The devs are working very hard to please the five of you guys who still run around these forums throwing up negativity, its not their fault the billing system sucks and theyre probobly more upset about it then you are.




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hexaemeron wrote:
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The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing



It's this idea that scores of people who want to play the game they bought and cannot because SE's baffling/backward third-party billing systems won't accept their money goes unresolved, but HEY, look everyone, it's a new MOUNT!!!! is what SE chooses to talk about.

The fact that they had more than 16 months to fix the crappy billing system they put in place, and did absolutely NOTHING with it, and then starting billing with it being as broken as it is, with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.

But hey, new mounts, yay!

*eyeroll* -- I seriously wonder why people continue to tolerate this Romper Room/Sesame Street operation when they continue to disappoint on OBVIOUS things at every. single. turn.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:23am by hexaemeron


You act like in game mounts and billing are managed by the same group of people.

Yes click and buy is probably the worst billing system in the world but what the heck does that have to do with a goobue mount? Do you honestly think the guys doing the artwork/animations and such should have halted all work because of some billing issues?

I havent actually heard about these billing issues, but considering your past posts i think its safe to assume you yourself dont have this issue, so why are you pretending to care? trust me all of those people having billing issues can stick up for themselves.

The devs are working very hard to please the five of you guys who still run around these forums throwing up negativity, its not their fault the billing system sucks and theyre probobly more upset about it then you are.







You act like SE is nothing but art developers and game coders. They (supposedly) have teams devoted to nothing else but billing infrastructure and accounting. So where were THESE people during the past sixteen months and why was billing started when the system was so horribly flawed and totally unchanged from September 2010?
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What were their infrastructure people doing for the past 16 months when the game was free? These issues should have been ironed out over the YEAR and a HALF that the game was free.


The billing process was not even remotely relevant up until this month. It didn't need to get improved until the billings actually began.

Either way, wouldn't surprise me if the system was being prepared ever since the 2.0 plan was set in motion last Spring. Now you're probably going to tell me that this timeframe is "too long" to set up an in-house billing infrastructure (lol). In the end it's not about "ironing out" anything- it's about setting up a secure and functional system from the scratch designed to handle as many people's payments at a time as necessary. So basically something an intern in his basement could handle in a weekend!

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What were their infrastructure people doing for the past 16 months when the game was free? These issues should have been ironed out over the YEAR and a HALF that the game was free.


The billing process was not even remotely relevant up until this month. It didn't need to get improved until the billings actually began. Either way, wouldn't surprise me if the system was being prepared ever since the 2.0 plan was set in motion last Spring. Now you're probably going to tell me that this timeframe is "too long" to set up an in-house billing infrastructure (lol). In the end it's not about "ironing out" anything- it's about setting up a secure and functional system from the scratch designed to handle as many people at time as necessary.


You're kidding, right? You're ACTUALLY going to say that SE knew it would be invoking billing, and when everyone has known since September 2010 that C&B and Ultimate Pay and their whole outsourced billing system was a total disaster waiting to happen... shouldn't have cared about fixing it until AFTER people tried to give them money?

Seriously?
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The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing



It's this idea that scores of people who want to play the game they bought and cannot because SE's baffling/backward third-party billing systems won't accept their money goes unresolved, but HEY, look everyone, it's a new MOUNT!!!! is what SE chooses to talk about.

The fact that they had more than 16 months to fix the crappy billing system they put in place, and did absolutely NOTHING with it, and then starting billing with it being as broken as it is, with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.

But hey, new mounts, yay!

*eyeroll* -- I seriously wonder why people continue to tolerate this Romper Room/Sesame Street operation when they continue to disappoint on OBVIOUS things at every. single. turn.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:23am by hexaemeron


You act like in game mounts and billing are managed by the same group of people.

Yes click and buy is probably the worst billing system in the world but what the heck does that have to do with a goobue mount? Do you honestly think the guys doing the artwork/animations and such should have halted all work because of some billing issues?

I havent actually heard about these billing issues, but considering your past posts i think its safe to assume you yourself dont have this issue, so why are you pretending to care? trust me all of those people having billing issues can stick up for themselves.

The devs are working very hard to please the five of you guys who still run around these forums throwing up negativity, its not their fault the billing system sucks and theyre probobly more upset about it then you are.







You act like SE is nothing but art developers and game coders. They (supposedly) have teams devoted to nothing else but billing infrastructure and accounting. So where were THESE people during the past sixteen months and why was billing started when the system was so horribly flawed and totally unchanged from September 2010?


I'm not acting like anything, the people responsible for the mounts have nothing to do with billing. you're overreacting to a situation that doesnt actually effect you, I blame your horribly flawed and totally unchanged from september 2010 attitude.
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theSubligaravenger wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
theSubligaravenger wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
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The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing



It's this idea that scores of people who want to play the game they bought and cannot because SE's baffling/backward third-party billing systems won't accept their money goes unresolved, but HEY, look everyone, it's a new MOUNT!!!! is what SE chooses to talk about.

The fact that they had more than 16 months to fix the crappy billing system they put in place, and did absolutely NOTHING with it, and then starting billing with it being as broken as it is, with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.

But hey, new mounts, yay!

*eyeroll* -- I seriously wonder why people continue to tolerate this Romper Room/Sesame Street operation when they continue to disappoint on OBVIOUS things at every. single. turn.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:23am by hexaemeron


You act like in game mounts and billing are managed by the same group of people.

Yes click and buy is probably the worst billing system in the world but what the heck does that have to do with a goobue mount? Do you honestly think the guys doing the artwork/animations and such should have halted all work because of some billing issues?

I havent actually heard about these billing issues, but considering your past posts i think its safe to assume you yourself dont have this issue, so why are you pretending to care? trust me all of those people having billing issues can stick up for themselves.

The devs are working very hard to please the five of you guys who still run around these forums throwing up negativity, its not their fault the billing system sucks and theyre probobly more upset about it then you are.







You act like SE is nothing but art developers and game coders. They (supposedly) have teams devoted to nothing else but billing infrastructure and accounting. So where were THESE people during the past sixteen months and why was billing started when the system was so horribly flawed and totally unchanged from September 2010?


I'm not acting like anything, the people responsible for the mounts have nothing to do with billing. you're overreacting to a situation that doesnt actually effect you, I blame your horribly flawed and totally unchanged from september 2010 attitude.


You didn't answer my question. Where was SE's billing team for the past sixteen months? OR, more "reasonably"... Where were they once the decision was made to reinstate billing?
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with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.


You had me until that point.

Optional billing options are coming this month (constantly mentioned by the community representatives), and if SE loses customers over this few weeks gap they had it coming and know it. Either way you don't simply snap your fingers and a first-party billing infrastructure is up and running.


What were their infrastructure people doing for the past 16 months when the game was free? These issues should have been ironed out over the YEAR and a HALF that the game was free.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:43am by hexaemeron

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:43am by hexaemeron


In all fairness in one of the threads Bayhonne (sp) did say they were working on it this month. However I do have to side with Hexa on this. Th payment problem discussion was brought up quite a while back by a poster on the lodestone and he thread stayed going for quite sometime before SE even responded. I'll take a look for it later and post it.
SE has had plenty of time to fix this issue for those who simply can't use either option to pay, but they instead have upset many fans who do want to play and put them on the back burner. That's not really fair to them. It just sad that SE has burnt many fandom bridges and the ones they do have left, some are just being out right ignored. I feel awful for those folks.
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You're kidding, right? You're ACTUALLY going to say that SE knew it would be invoking billing, and when everyone has known since September 2010 that C&B and Ultimate Pay and their whole outsourced billing system was a total disaster waiting to happen... shouldn't have cared about fixing it until AFTER people tried to give them money?

Seriously?


Did they kill your dog or something? You certainly sound like it.

They have been fixing it. What you seem to not understand that it's not a simple issue to actually fix. It's not a stretch to say that it can take a year to set one up from the scratch. Not to mention that even the game's future as it is was not clear back in September 2010. Axing the whole project was definitely on the table. You don't start fixing payment systems before you know what the plan regarding the game as a whole is...and then you can start planning on the necessary actions required, preparing it as they did with the game itself.

Not just "Oh, we need a new payment system. Well, that was simple enough!"

It has been pretty much apparent that the infrastructure was prepared to be up and running in time for January's billings, but it got delayed by a few weeks. A few weeks when it had been in the making for God knows how many months and manhours already. This **** happens, fortunately most people stick around regardless and they know it.
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#46 Jan 16 2012 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
hexaemeron wrote:
theSubligaravenger wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
theSubligaravenger wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
theSubligaravenger wrote:
The amount of negativity generated over the new mounts is strange.

You all know the reasons to dislike the game, but come on now. nitpicking the thickness of a carpet on a goobues head? really?


I have no doubt the people who currently play the game will enjoy running around on whatever mounts they currently have planned. They arent meant to bait new players but most likely to reward the current ones. or **** even just to add some variety. Still anything added to the game is a good thing



It's this idea that scores of people who want to play the game they bought and cannot because SE's baffling/backward third-party billing systems won't accept their money goes unresolved, but HEY, look everyone, it's a new MOUNT!!!! is what SE chooses to talk about.

The fact that they had more than 16 months to fix the crappy billing system they put in place, and did absolutely NOTHING with it, and then starting billing with it being as broken as it is, with no resolution in sight for people who actually like the game enough to want to pay for it... with ongoing silence from SE... it's galling.

But hey, new mounts, yay!

*eyeroll* -- I seriously wonder why people continue to tolerate this Romper Room/Sesame Street operation when they continue to disappoint on OBVIOUS things at every. single. turn.

Edited, Jan 16th 2012 8:23am by hexaemeron


You act like in game mounts and billing are managed by the same group of people.

Yes click and buy is probably the worst billing system in the world but what the heck does that have to do with a goobue mount? Do you honestly think the guys doing the artwork/animations and such should have halted all work because of some billing issues?

I havent actually heard about these billing issues, but considering your past posts i think its safe to assume you yourself dont have this issue, so why are you pretending to care? trust me all of those people having billing issues can stick up for themselves.

The devs are working very hard to please the five of you guys who still run around these forums throwing up negativity, its not their fault the billing system sucks and theyre probobly more upset about it then you are.







You act like SE is nothing but art developers and game coders. They (supposedly) have teams devoted to nothing else but billing infrastructure and accounting. So where were THESE people during the past sixteen months and why was billing started when the system was so horribly flawed and totally unchanged from September 2010?


I'm not acting like anything, the people responsible for the mounts have nothing to do with billing. you're overreacting to a situation that doesnt actually effect you, I blame your horribly flawed and totally unchanged from september 2010 attitude.


You didn't answer my question. Where was SE's billing team for the past sixteen months? OR, more "reasonably"... Where were they once the decision was made to reinstate billing?


LOL really? guy(girl?) you're in no postition to be demanding answers from anyone. I hate the game and SE for this mess just as much as you seem to, the thing is i got over it a long time ago. i'd hate to see how you handle adult issues
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I would say yes the people who make decisions at the top are the ones to blame for instead having energy focused on proper billing set up, are focused on adding functional/vanity mounts.

Many understand the devs don't have control over that part. It's the people in charge who seems to have priorities a bit backwards, that or they are just overwhelmed and could truly use help in getting this game straightened out.

With as much work as this game needs, I am shocked they would have a deadline at the end of this to release the revamped edition. I just hope that have brought the wow factor back. As much as I am disappointed by SE, I am secretly cheering for their comeback :P
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Okay, let me get a few things clear.

1.) I am not bitter. I have no vested interest one way or the other with respect to this game any longer. I just find it fascinating that even now, this game has some of the most bizarre people stanning for it in the most baffling and logic-confounding ways.

2.) To say that SE should not be responsible for providing a functional billing solution when they make a decision to start billing... I mean, I don't even know what to say to this, except to say, you've been happily upgraded from white knight to full-blown Paladin. If a company says "We ask that you continue to pay for your product" and then proceed to ignore a significant portion of the tattered remains of the people who still care... boggles my mind. Only more boggling is why people defend SE for it.
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There's a fine line between this sentence and what you've been spewing in this thread thus far. Regardless, a functional billing solution is one that works, and most people who were playing pre-payments are more or less happily playing post-payments. It might be more inconvenient, but it certainly works for the time being.

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Even after it has been repeatedly been told to you that they haven't ignored anyone, you still keep saying the same thing. Can you tell us more about this "significant portion of people"? Any numbers perhaps?

There's a particular word to call people like you.

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2.) To say that SE should not be responsible for providing a functional billing solution when they make a decision to start billing


There's a fine line between this sentence and what you've been spewing in this thread thus far. Regardless, a functional billing solution is one that works, and most people who were playing pre-payments are more or less happily playing post-payments. It might be more inconvenient, but it certainly works for the time being.

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and then proceed to ignore a significant portion of the tattered remains of the people who still care.


Even after it has been repeatedly been told to you that they haven't ignored anyone, you still keep saying the same thing. Can you tell us more about this "significant portion of people"? Any numbers perhaps?

There's a particular word to call people like you.
Edited, Jan 16th 2012 5:26pm by Hyanmen


Educated consumer?
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Educated consumer?


Did you buy this game when it came out?
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